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The UFC 129 Thread of 55,000 people chanting "GSP! GSP!"
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smurfx said:
LOL at people still thinking the Money Mayweather persona is who he really is. Floyd does that to make people hate him. As evidenced by this post, there are people that fall hook, line and sinker. Nobody wants to pay for 12 rounds of two nice guys going at it, when one is clearly better than the other. Hence the reason the Money Mayweather persona was born.
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BamYouHaveAids
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Mayweather is 10x as active and in the course of a fight throws several times more power shots than GSP. Mayweather actively tries to finish his opponent but isn't reckless while GSP is completely tentative, I really don't think it's a good comparison. GSP is more of a Clottey than anything, the fact that he let Shields recover after the head kick seals it.
will52 said:
Only because of the size different. If a C level in fighter in Sonnen could beat Andersons ass for basically 5 rounds, a huge GSP would dominate him like a puppet. To bad he is outweighed, out reached and is shorter by 4 inches.
People can criticize GSP all they want, but the fact is he beats everyone he faces. Period. When he does lose, every few years, he avenges it and finish's the person. Every single time.
GSP isn't and never was a big time, knock you out with one punch striker. Just like Anderson is generally shit on the ground. Anderson only finish's fighters on the ground after getting lucky submissions (99.9 percent of the time). Most of the time he can't finish the person on the ground unless they make a major mistake, or he hurts them with strikes first. In terms of pure grappling, Anderson is not that good.
GSP really had two options. Go to the ground and fight shield, or strike with him. He picked striking.
Shields has been finished once, 11 years ago. He is a tough mother fucker. When you go after and jump on a guy with Jakes BJJ skills to early, he will catch you. Nobody wants to be on the ground with Jake. If Anderson went to the ground with him, he would choke him out. People need to stop acting like Jake is some bum that should have been finished in 30 seconds. Jake is a tough guy, who is hard to finish for anyone.
BamYouHaveAids said:
Mayweather never activly looks to finish fights, and in terms of high quality opponents, his resume is laughable. This is why he isn't and will never be ranked as a top boxer ever. Floyd is known for ducking top boxers until they are at the end of their prime. Boxing is also far less competitive then MMA is. You build your resume up by knocking out mechanics and electricians (literally). Most boxers will only have a handful of really tough fights in their career. Floyd ducks them. He has also been gifted multiple decisions in his career, including his win over Castillo. Now he is afraid to face Manny.
No robbery in MMA history compares to that.
BamYouHaveAids
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Blackface said:
GSP said:
LOL
note to georges, you can't KO or sub someone when you're not trying to finish a fight.
EDIT:
and another thing that i fucking love is that it looks like the GAF collective did a 180 after the latest goddamn sleeping pill performance. dream and i have been preaching and the ppl are listening. where's boogie to tell us how dominant that performance was last night :/
Gsp dominates his opponents without exciting the crowd and has a formula that works. As a fighter who trains to win, he doesn't need to risk changing it. We know that mentally, he might not be as tough as others and suffers to a greater degree when he gets hit.
The only Gsp fight that would excite me going forward/the only way to advance his career further would be to move up in weight. Whilst I would love to set him fight Silva, I have to admit it isn't real a fair fight as Anderson is MUCH bigger than Gsp. It would end up being a massive disappointment.
The only Gsp fight that would excite me going forward/the only way to advance his career further would be to move up in weight. Whilst I would love to set him fight Silva, I have to admit it isn't real a fair fight as Anderson is MUCH bigger than Gsp. It would end up being a massive disappointment.
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DKehoe said:
No...Shields and Mayhem was an extreme close fight, GSP and Shields was not.
Epic Tales of Penis
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Is it just me or does GSP go a little soft at the first sign of adversity or pain? Wasn't impressed how him and his corner handled and acted during his whole eye thing.
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I was really expecting GSPs stand up to look a LOT better against Shields.
Going into the fight I was expecting GSP to out strike Shields for 3 rounds, really beat him up, and then when Shields was tired, sweaty and beaten up, take him down and GnP to win by TKO in round 4 or 5.
I dunno if it's because Shields was much better standing up than GSP expected, but GSPs stand up looked average and not great.
I also agree with the two judges that gave Shields a couple rounds - I think he just about won the last two.
Would like to see a re-match.
Aldo vs Hominick was fucking amazing.
Another exciting performance from Aldo (except for his last round) and Hominick is one tough son of a...
Aldo has to be my favourite fighter at the moment, what a little beast. He's like when Anderson Silva was beasting a few years back
GSP will NOT go up to Middleweight either.
I think at best hell fight Silva at 180lbs (he hinted at this by saying maybe there are other ways when discussing moving up to 185 to fight Anderson).
Im hoping Conduit beats Kim Dong-hyun, and that hell then get his title shot against GSP next.
Going into the fight I was expecting GSP to out strike Shields for 3 rounds, really beat him up, and then when Shields was tired, sweaty and beaten up, take him down and GnP to win by TKO in round 4 or 5.
I dunno if it's because Shields was much better standing up than GSP expected, but GSPs stand up looked average and not great.
I also agree with the two judges that gave Shields a couple rounds - I think he just about won the last two.
Would like to see a re-match.
Aldo vs Hominick was fucking amazing.
Another exciting performance from Aldo (except for his last round) and Hominick is one tough son of a...
Aldo has to be my favourite fighter at the moment, what a little beast. He's like when Anderson Silva was beasting a few years back
GSP will NOT go up to Middleweight either.
I think at best hell fight Silva at 180lbs (he hinted at this by saying maybe there are other ways when discussing moving up to 185 to fight Anderson).
Im hoping Conduit beats Kim Dong-hyun, and that hell then get his title shot against GSP next.
You're surprised that someone would panic would they can't see out of an eye (that isn't caused due to swelling)? Alan Belcher had a detached retina and he's been out since August and may only be fighting again in September.Epic Tales of Penis said:
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The tears of gsp haters flows and I'd like to take a swim in them.
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yes but I also would say the same about Mayweather so many haters and it's great.alr1ghtstart said:
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GSP at least has a semi-excuse for such a plain fight but Shields didn't even attempt to do a single thing he was bragging about being able to do like take him down.
GSP fight was shit.
Yep, I can admit it. First time that I have been genuinely bored by GSP. The eye injury can explain some of it, but he was fighting tentative and awkward even before that. Those winging overhand rights? I mean, it shows that you're throwing power shots trying to finish, but what happened to your varied striking game, Georges?
Anyway, outside of the ME, the event was INCREDIBLE. Obviously the Canadian fighters all got pops. Rory Macdonald started out with just a slight crowd reaction, but picked up enthusiasm throughout, and when he hit those slams? OHMYGAWD the place went insane!
Couture might have gotten the biggest reaction of the night. Everyone was on their feet for his retirement sendoff.
And my boy Hominick. Fought his heart out, did better than a lot thought he would do. And though he lost, that fifth round was a hell of a moral victory. Crowd was ridiculous for that whole round.
Great experience. If the main event had even been decent, it might have been the best UFC card ever.
Yeah, because endless winging overhand rights is evidence of trying your damnedest to go to decision.
No, yacobod, because I live in reality, and can acknowledge crappy performances in the fighters of whom I am a fan.
Yep, I can admit it. First time that I have been genuinely bored by GSP. The eye injury can explain some of it, but he was fighting tentative and awkward even before that. Those winging overhand rights? I mean, it shows that you're throwing power shots trying to finish, but what happened to your varied striking game, Georges?
Anyway, outside of the ME, the event was INCREDIBLE. Obviously the Canadian fighters all got pops. Rory Macdonald started out with just a slight crowd reaction, but picked up enthusiasm throughout, and when he hit those slams? OHMYGAWD the place went insane!
Couture might have gotten the biggest reaction of the night. Everyone was on their feet for his retirement sendoff.
And my boy Hominick. Fought his heart out, did better than a lot thought he would do. And though he lost, that fifth round was a hell of a moral victory. Crowd was ridiculous for that whole round.
Great experience. If the main event had even been decent, it might have been the best UFC card ever.
yacobod said:
Yeah, because endless winging overhand rights is evidence of trying your damnedest to go to decision.
yacobod said:
No, yacobod, because I live in reality, and can acknowledge crappy performances in the fighters of whom I am a fan.
If I remember well, that he was one of the first white person to be allowed to open an aikido dojo in Japan. Its a pretty big deal I think. People kinda discard him for his movie career, but he was pretty big for a long time in the MA world before his movie career from what I've read.IGotBillySoSpooked said:
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She was looking super hot last night.DKehoe said:
BobTheFork
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We hear the same thing before and after every GSP victory. When he does eventually lose I'm sure they'll all just say they called it. At this point it doesn't feel like there is anything left to say against him until someone beats him. GSP isn't perfect at all, but every time someone gets into the ring with him, GSP sets the pace. No one ever ends up fighting him with their game, they fight with his and they can't get it done.
shuri said:
lol, aikido.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVm2ld4f08I
Fuckin' Seagal, man....
Long standing story is that he got choked out on a movie set by Judo Gene Lebell for being an asshole to the stuntmen.
BobTheFork
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Oh yeah before I forget again,
Did anyone else see Lebron at the fight with a GSP headband on? My buddy called it out and we didn't believe it but we hit the DVR and sure enough it was him. Right up front on the entrance lane.
Did anyone else see Lebron at the fight with a GSP headband on? My buddy called it out and we didn't believe it but we hit the DVR and sure enough it was him. Right up front on the entrance lane.
My thoughts on 129:
Up until the main event, it was shaping up to be one of the best UFC's ever in front of the biggest crowd ever.
The flying triangle and spinning backfists were great. Lyoto with the Crane Kick put 'im in a body bag. Hominick looked good in a loss, because he made Aldo look vulnerable, despite having to fight with two heads.
As for the main event, I don't get the people hating on Shields. He's the first opponent that has won rounds over GSP in what, 3+ years? Obviously, Shield's standup tools are below average, but he showed more heart than GSP. His gameplan was to take GSP down by setting him up with strikes, but his takedowns were stuffed.
I felt Shields won rounds 4 and 5. If he had done a little more in rounds 1 or 3, he could have won the decision. Not much happened in round 1, so that was winnable. Round 3 was when the eye started affecting GSP, but Shields didn't pick up on it soon enough, and he was still recovering from the round 2 beating. Shields has been the toughest opponent GSP has faced since Matt Hughes (and maybe BJ Penn), and has come the closest to beating him compared to GSP's other opponents.
Also, if Shields standup can make GSP look that bad, Anderson would light him up. The superfight will never happen.
Up until the main event, it was shaping up to be one of the best UFC's ever in front of the biggest crowd ever.
The flying triangle and spinning backfists were great. Lyoto with the Crane Kick put 'im in a body bag. Hominick looked good in a loss, because he made Aldo look vulnerable, despite having to fight with two heads.
As for the main event, I don't get the people hating on Shields. He's the first opponent that has won rounds over GSP in what, 3+ years? Obviously, Shield's standup tools are below average, but he showed more heart than GSP. His gameplan was to take GSP down by setting him up with strikes, but his takedowns were stuffed.
I felt Shields won rounds 4 and 5. If he had done a little more in rounds 1 or 3, he could have won the decision. Not much happened in round 1, so that was winnable. Round 3 was when the eye started affecting GSP, but Shields didn't pick up on it soon enough, and he was still recovering from the round 2 beating. Shields has been the toughest opponent GSP has faced since Matt Hughes (and maybe BJ Penn), and has come the closest to beating him compared to GSP's other opponents.
Also, if Shields standup can make GSP look that bad, Anderson would light him up. The superfight will never happen.
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Chesskid1 said:
It looks like someone shoved one of those Reese's easter eggs into his forehead.
BamYouHaveAids said:
Thanks for saving me from typing that.
NutJobJim said:
My opinion, but it looked like more of a case of GSP really thought he'd be able to out box Shields with ease and wasn't worried about his striking at ALL. As if it would be like Mayweather-Mosley third round and on.
It also didn't help that Shields is probably the first dude that didn't care if it got taken to the ground so he was able to score standing with his robotic frankenstein-esque standup.
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alr1ghtstart said:
ugh, i was a ufc party where nobody knew a damn thing about actual mma. Just alot of ignorant comments. That was one of the dumb comments, why is lebron wearing that? ugh, wanted to shoot myself.
TheRagnCajun
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GSP fight was boring, but I think shields is just as much to blame, if not more so.
BigKaboom2
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I had it 48-47 for GSP. Shields' gameplan was pretty stupid but he was doing well with the jab and left kick to the body. I thought throwing lots of kicks to bait a takedown was a good idea but GSP didn't fall for it. I don't know how anyone could call that a "dominant performance" - every round was won by a razor thin margin. Rogan seemed to think Shields got dropped by that headkick when he was clearly just shooting in. Same situation as Hominick earlier.
When Garza and MacDonald play Undisputed 2010 I bet they hold down the LB button at all times.
This was a terrible night for Big John, not that I can recall a recent good night for him. Missed a blatant rabbit punch by MacDonald after Diaz tried a single leg, then allowed him to piledrive Diaz in the third round (actually a uranage in pro wrestling terms, but a piledriver in the unified rules). Took him about 6 cage grabs by Hominick to even issue a warning. Only a warning when Hominick landed three consecutive knees to the spine. Stood the fight up repeatedly for no reason in the early rounds, then stood it up to check the hematoma later and restarted them standing, which is ridiculous.
I hope after this card I never again have to hear people rave about GSP's, Aldo's, and Couture's standup. Or talk about Ellenberger and Matyushenko as if their fights are utterly unwatchable.
Still shocked at Henderson winning - didn't think that was even a remote possibility.
When Garza and MacDonald play Undisputed 2010 I bet they hold down the LB button at all times.
This was a terrible night for Big John, not that I can recall a recent good night for him. Missed a blatant rabbit punch by MacDonald after Diaz tried a single leg, then allowed him to piledrive Diaz in the third round (actually a uranage in pro wrestling terms, but a piledriver in the unified rules). Took him about 6 cage grabs by Hominick to even issue a warning. Only a warning when Hominick landed three consecutive knees to the spine. Stood the fight up repeatedly for no reason in the early rounds, then stood it up to check the hematoma later and restarted them standing, which is ridiculous.
I hope after this card I never again have to hear people rave about GSP's, Aldo's, and Couture's standup. Or talk about Ellenberger and Matyushenko as if their fights are utterly unwatchable.
Still shocked at Henderson winning - didn't think that was even a remote possibility.
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smurfx said:
He'll probably use his size/strength to just wrestlefuck Nick all night long and win a decision that way. that's the thing about GSP, he's actually fairly smart in that he finds his opponents weakness and exploits it over and over and over. Kos and Shields both were more dangerous on the ground, and have terrible standup, so GSP can jab them to death and stay away from their strength.
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Kos' stand up is pretty dangerous though. I'd say standing with him was riskier for GSP than going to ground.Ninja Scooter said:
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