Support NeoGAF

[Funky Papa]

667 of 251,287 cables released, BTW. It's hard to believe this is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[mantidor]

This is the first thing i think of when it comes to revealing government secrets but sadly it never delivers, hopefully one day my dreams of an Alien reveal will come true

I'm pretty sure if UFOs are mentioned it will mostly refer to actual military operations with secret aircrafts, not little green people.

 

[Duracelllll]

So who exactly from the state dept. was spying on UN members and other governments? DSS agents or actual diplomats?

its diplomats
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/02/wikileaks-cables-cia-united-nations

One of the most embarrassing revelations to emerge from US diplomatic cables obtained by the whistleblowers' website WikiLeaks has been that US diplomats were asked to gather intelligence on Ban, other senior UN staff, security council members and other foreign diplomats – a possible violation of international law.

 

[PantherLotus]

667 of 251,287 cables released, BTW. It's hard to believe this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Anybody starting to wonder if they should just be released en masse before they're all killed and murdered in their beds and the data is erased forever?

 

[Lard]

Federal employees and students who want to be Federal Employees are being told not to look at Wikileaks.

Thought Police.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/02/AR2010120206144.html

http://www.arabist.net/blog/2010/12...rospective-recruits-to-steer-clear-of-wi.html

 

[jamesinclair]

Federal employees and students who want to be Federal Employees are being told not to look at Wikileaks.

Thought Police.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/02/AR2010120206144.html

http://www.arabist.net/blog/2010/12...rospective-recruits-to-steer-clear-of-wi.html

A modern democracy ladies and gentleman. A government by the people for the people.

 

[curls]

Anybody starting to wonder if they should just be released en masse before they're all killed and murdered in their beds and the data is erased forever?

The information is spread around the globe in encrypted form. Taking down Wikileaks (lol) would have no effect on 'cablegate' at all.

 

[jorma]

Anybody starting to wonder if they should just be released en masse before they're all killed and murdered in their beds and the data is erased forever?

there are hundreds of thousands of people with the entire cache on their harddrive. It's been shared - encrypted - on piratebay. They'll release the key if they have to.

edit beaten

 

[Lard]

Wikileaks cables reveal that the US wrote Spain's proposed copyright law

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-cables-rev.html

Original article I can't read

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espa...idescargas/elpepuesp/20101203elpepunac_52/Tes

WikiLeaks cables reveal how US manipulated climate accord
Embassy dispatches show America used spying, threats and promises of aid to get support for Copenhagen accord
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord

 

[Lard]

Fuck!

Diplomatic cables: Gaddafi risked nuclear disaster after UN slight
Highly enriched and unstable uranium left on Libyan runway because leader was banned from pitching tent in New York
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-cables-libya-enriched-uranium

A potential "environmental disaster" was kept secret by the US last year when a large consignment of highly enriched uranium in Libya came close to cracking open and leaking radioactive material into the atmosphere.

The incident came after the mercurial Libyan leader, Muammar Gaddafi, suddenly went back on a promise to dispose of the weapons-grade uranium, apparently out of pique at a diplomatic slight received in New York when he was barred from pitching a tent outside the UN.

I don't know whether to laugh or not. :/

 

[Zenith]

Do you know what's really disgusting? The BBC's frontpage's only mention of wikileaks is an article on the new warrant for Assange. It's like the 7th article down. We've just been handed hard evidence that the US and MoD conspired to deceive Parliament on two separate occasions and they aren't even covering it. Why? Because it's not "proper"? What a bunch of lapdogs.

 

[Lard]

The only thing on CBC's Front Page:

"WikiLeaks founder calls for Flanagan charge"

From boingboing.net

In response to the "killing" of Wikileaks.org by the US, countless mirror sites are springing up all over the world. It's impossible to authoritatively catalog them all—too many mirrors, and too fluid of a situation. But here are some active indexes, which appear to be dynamically updating as new mirrors pop up.

http://wikileaks.info/
http://leakmirror.users.anapnea.net/
http://etherpad.mozilla.org:9000/wikileaks
http://www.google.ca/#sclient=psy&h...&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=1&cad=b
http://anonymitaet-im-inter.net/wiki/wl-mirror

 

[Ether_Snake]

Yemen offered US 'open door' to attack al-Qaida on its soil

Yemeni president 'bizarre and petulant', WikiLeaks cables claim

Yemen's long-serving president, Ali Abdullah Saleh, emerges from the US embassy cables as a perplexing partner in the "war on terror" who flits from disdain for the Americans to congeniality while all the time wrestling to keep a lid on the simmering tensions in a country that he warns is on the brink of becoming "worse than Somalia".

The 64-year-old, who has ruled Yemen for half his life, is variously labelled as "petulant" and "bizarre" in his negotiations with US security officials who met him in Yemen on several occasions in 2009 as concern grew about al-Qaida's resurgence in the country.

Non-cable related but interesting:
Al-Qaida is the least of impoverished Yemen's problems

EE UU ejecutó un plan para conseguir una ley antidescargas

El Pais has a very long, detailed and fascinating account of the US's strenuous efforts to force Spain to fight internet piracy. The 120 cables show the US pushing hard for revised intellectual property laws, using various tactics to push Spanish politicians into taking action, with help from US trade bodies such as the Motion Picture Association of America.

Although El Pais's coverage is in Spanish, the published embassy cables are in English and you can read them here.

WikiLeaks cables reveal how US manipulated climate accord

The US diplomatic cables reveal how the US seeks dirt on nations opposed to its approach to tackling global warming; how financial and other aid is used by countries to gain political backing; how distrust, broken promises and creative accounting dog negotiations; and how the US mounted a secret global diplomatic offensive to overwhelm opposition to the controversial "Copenhagen accord", the unofficial document that emerged from the ruins of the Copenhagen climate change summit in 2009.

And as always, real-time updates and reactions to the new documents as they come: http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates

 

[NotWii]

Cool cover
Add to OP?

Somehow this thread title isn't sticking out like the other few floating around ATM, which is a shame cause there's so much stuff in this one

 

[Community Forum]

Somehow this thread title isn't sticking out like the other few floating around ATM, which is a shame cause there's so much stuff in this one

The only solution is...

WikiLeaks |OT| Do You Want to Know a Secret?

 

[NotWii]

The only solution is...

WikiLeaks |OT| Do You Want to Know a Secret?

That would be a good title

|OT| is a curse though

 

[Jenga]

Federal employees and students who want to be Federal Employees are being told not to look at Wikileaks.

Thought Police.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/02/AR2010120206144.html

warning employees that they are still secret and cannot be viewed on government computers.

This "information is NOT authorized for downloading, viewing, printing, processing, copying or transmitting" on your government "computers, laptops, blackberries or other communications devices," the e-mail says

big difference lard :lol

seems they're scared silly of another leak, so a quick band-aid is to prevent all government computers from accessing wikileaks

not personal, private computers

so could you please accurately summarize articles lard

 

[pestul]

For some reason I think Assange is glad the focus is more on him and less on Wikileaks as an organization.

Time shouldn't bait them like that. As this thread shows, the leaks as still coming fast and furious.

 

[Duracelllll]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11917891
PayPal cuts Wikileaks access for donations

The online payments processor, PayPal, says it has cut access for donations to the whistle-blowing website Wikileaks.

PayPal said its payment service cannot be used for activities "that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity".

In a statement, US-based PayPal said donations could no longer be made to Wikileaks because of "a violation of the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy"

 

[NotWii]

big difference lard :lol

seems they're scared silly of another leak, so a quick band-aid is to prevent all government computers from accessing wikileaks

not personal, private computers

so could you please accurately summarize articles lard

??
You sure?

From: "Office of Career Services" <sipa_ocs@columbia.edu>

Date: November 30, 2010 15:26:53 ESTTo:

Hi students,

We received a call today from a SIPA alumnus who is working at the State Department. He asked us to pass along the following information to anyone who will be applying for jobs in the federal government, since all would require a background investigation and in some instances a security clearance.

The documents released during the past few months through Wikileaks are still considered classified documents. He recommends that you DO NOT post links to these documents nor make comments on social media sites such as Facebook or through Twitter. Engaging in these activities would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information, which is part of most positions with the federal government.

Regards,
Office of Career Services

http://www.arabist.net/blog/2010/12...rospective-recruits-to-steer-clear-of-wi.html

Seems to be more of an issue of: you can read it, but DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT, OR WE WILL KNOW YOU CAN'T KEEP SECRETS AND YOU WILL NOT BE HIRED

Library of Congress has banned it, and they're trying to stop the troops from reading them by banning all news as well :lol

http://gawker.com/5705639/us-milita...ntimidate-soldiers-into-not-reading-wikileaks

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/12...Students-Being-Warned-Away-From-Leaked-Cables

 

[NotWii]

U.S. Orders Diplomats To Stop Telling Truth Until Further Notice
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20101204/cm_uc_crabox/op_4716220

:lol :lol :lol

 

[GC|Simon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11917891
PayPal cuts Wikileaks access for donations

You cannot win a war against the internet. This will be a Waterloo for the government of the United States.

 

[mantidor]

U.S. Orders Diplomats To Stop Telling Truth Until Further Notice
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20101204/cm_uc_crabox/op_4716220

:lol :lol :lol

I seriously thought that was an Onion article...

So I really, really want leaks on other governments, specially the likes of China and Russia, any chance of that happening?

 

[Lard]

WikiLeaks cables: Conservatives promised to run 'pro-American regime'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-cables-us-special-relationship

Regime eh?

 

[curls]

WikiLeaks cables: Conservatives promised to run 'pro-American regime'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-cables-us-special-relationship

Regime eh?

Meh. They won't get in again.

 

[dragonfart28]

WikiLeaks cables reveal how US manipulated climate accord


Seeking negotiating chips, the US state department sent a secret cable on 31 July 2009 seeking human intelligence from UN diplomats across a range of issues, including climate change. The request originated with the CIA. As well as countries' negotiating positions for Copenhagen, diplomats were asked to provide evidence of UN environmental "treaty circumvention" and deals between nations.

But intelligence gathering was not just one way. On 19 June 2009, the state department sent a cable detailing a "spear phishing" attack on the office of the US climate change envoy, Todd Stern, while talks with China on emissions took place in Beijing. Five people received emails, personalised to look as though they came from the National Journal. An attached file contained malicious code that would give complete control of the recipient's computer to a hacker. While the attack was unsuccessful, the department's cyber threat analysis division noted: "It is probable intrusion attempts such as this will persist."

The Beijing talks failed to lead to a global deal at Copenhagen. The US, the world's biggest historical polluter and long isolated as a climate pariah, now had something to cling to. The Copenhagen accord, hammered out in the dying hours but not adopted into the UN process, offered to solve many of the US's problems.

The accord turns the UN's top-down, unanimous approach upside down, with each nation choosing palatable targets for greenhouse gas cuts. It presents a far easier way to bind in China and other rapidly growing countries than the UN process. But the accord cannot guarantee the global greenhouse gas cuts needed to avoid dangerous warming. Furthermore, it threatens to circumvent the UN's negotiations on extending the Kyoto protocol, in which rich nations have binding obligations.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord

 

[delirium]

??
You sure?


http://www.arabist.net/blog/2010/12...rospective-recruits-to-steer-clear-of-wi.html

Seems to be more of an issue of: you can read it, but DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE IT, OR WE WILL KNOW YOU CAN'T KEEP SECRETS AND YOU WILL NOT BE HIRED

Library of Congress has banned it, and they're trying to stop the troops from reading them by banning all news as well :lol

http://gawker.com/5705639/us-milita...ntimidate-soldiers-into-not-reading-wikileaks

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/12...Students-Being-Warned-Away-From-Leaked-Cables

This isn't the government. This is an university telling its students that if they want a job with security clearance, they shouldn't be PUBLICLY posting things that would harm their chances of getting security clearance.

 

[numble]

I seriously thought that was an Onion article...

So I really, really want leaks on other governments, specially the likes of China and Russia, any chance of that happening?

It's an Op-Ed by a comedian...

 

[Neo C.]

You cannot win a war against the internet.

The internet: "You want a war? We give you the war!" *more leaks, more Wikileaks-like-organizations*

 

[Jenga]

This isn't the government. This is an university telling its students that if they want a job with security clearance, they shouldn't be PUBLICLY posting things that would harm their chances of getting security clearance.

Also for the soldiers

NIPRNet computers go to first. This page simply warns the user that the website they are about to view may contain classified documents and that such documents should not be viewed, downloaded, or distributed on NIPR computers.

in other words, more government computer/network banning of accessing wikileaks

they obviously would rather not have the soldier's view the documents, but they still seem really afraid of wikileaks connections to government shit.

also

State Department spokeswoman Nicole Thompson got back to us. She said that she's unaware of any State employees issuing any "directives" to any schools about what students should and shouldn't write on social networks

 

[Jenga]

The internet: "You want a war? We give you the war!" *more leaks, more Wikileaks-like-organizations*

The government: *more censorship*
The internet: *bends backward to the government*

 

[Kaako]

U.S. Orders Diplomats To Stop Telling Truth Until Further Notice
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20101204/cm_uc_crabox/op_4716220

:lol :lol :lol

I said wow. :lol
Was expecting an Onion source here as well.

 

[Jenga]

I said wow. :lol
Was expecting an Onion source here as well.

i guess yahoo gave up being a real news source

 

[Kaako]

i guess yahoo gave up being a real news source

Derp indeed.
So its from the Creators Syndicate written by Andy Borowitz and therefore fake? I'm still confused lol.

 

[Meus Renaissance]

UK

WikiLeaks cables: Conservatives promised to run 'pro-American regime': Leaked dispatch reveals how US diplomats are amused by Britain's 'paranoid' fears about so-called special relationship

 

[theignoramus]

Somehow this thread title isn't sticking out like the other few floating around ATM, which is a shame cause there's so much stuff in this one

because we have to attack wikileaks, Assange,his methods and defend the institutions that hold the general public in contempt.

 

[Jenga]

Derp indeed.
So its from the Creators Syndicate written by Andy Borowitz and therefore fake? I'm still confused lol.

Oh, I had said derp thinking you had thought it was real.

Then I edited it when I thought "Oh, he must realize it was a fake".

 

[Kaako]

Oh, I had said derp thinking you had thought it was real.

Then I edited it when I thought "Oh, he must realize it was a fake".

I realized after I re-read it but still wasn't 100 % sure. :lol
Now I definitely am. Yahoo confused me cause I though they didn't post stuff like this. Then again, I don't visit Yahoo often. Definitely derp on my part.

 

[Ether_Snake]

WikiLeaks cables blame Chinese government for Google hacking

The Chinese hacking of Google that forced the search engine to withdraw from the country was orchestrated by a senior member of the communist politburo, according to classified information sent by US diplomats to Hillary Clinton's state department in Washington.

The leading politician became hostile to Google after he searched his own name and found articles criticising him personally, leaked cables from the US embassy in Beijing say.

The explosive allegation that the attack on Google came from near the top of the Communist party has never been made public until now. The politician allegedly collaborated with a second member of the politburo in an attempt to force Google to drop a link from its Chinese-language search engine to its uncensored google.com version.

A cable from the Beijing embassy marked as secret records that attempts to break into the accounts of dissidents who used Google's Gmail system had been co-ordinated "with the oversight of" the two politburo members.

 

[NotWii]

"We Have Not Seen Anything Yet": Guardian Editor Says Most Startling WikiLeaks Cables Still to be Released

In the coming days, we are going to see some quite startling disclosures about Russia, the nature of the Russian state, and about bribery and corruption in other countries, particularly in Central Asia

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/30/we_have_not_seen_anything_yet

SO JUICY

WHAT OTHER SECRETS LURK IN THE CABLES?

 

[Ether_Snake]

Over 249,000 more cables to go.

 

[jorma]

No wonder the US are playing the blame game so fiercely, because there's gonna be a lot of angry government officials around the world asking the US how the fuck they could let 2 million people have access to this material...

 

[EzLink]

More shit on Russia? Wonder if it will still be mafia related

 

[TacticalFox88]

WikiLeaks have anything on the Russian Military? Cause everything so far has been boring a bit.


But still, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these start a conflict.

 

[theignoramus]

"We Have Not Seen Anything Yet": Guardian Editor Says Most Startling WikiLeaks Cables Still to be Released

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/11/30/we_have_not_seen_anything_yet

SO JUICY

WHAT OTHER SECRETS LURK IN THE CABLES?

That was from the 30th of november. The Guardian have already released most of what the guy was talking about. Some of the stuff regarding the UK is downright scandalous and the allegations regarding Russia are scary, even if they are predictable.

 

[Ether_Snake]

WikiLeaks cables: 'Aggressive' China losing friends around the world

China's "newly pugnacious" foreign policy is "losing friends worldwide", the US ambassador to Beijing argued in a cable last February.

European diplomats were "most vocal", although Indian and Japanese counterparts voiced similar complaints, Jon Huntsman wrote. In other dispatches US diplomats quote unhappy African officials.

In his cable, entitled "Stomp around and carry a small stick: China's new 'global assertiveness' raises hackles, but has more form than substance", he accused Beijing of "muscle-flexing, triumphalism and assertiveness", but added that some observers saw it as rhetoric designed to appeal to Chinese public opinion. "Numerous third-country diplomats have complained to us that dealing with China has become more difficult in the past year," Huntsman reported. His examples included:

&#9632; A British diplomat saying that Chinese officials' behaviour at the Copenhagen climate change summit was "shocking" and so rude and arrogant that the UK and French complained formally.

&#9632; The Indian ambassador to Beijing requesting closer co-operation with the US because of "China's more aggressive approach".

&#9632; Japanese diplomats complaining that officials were "aggressive and difficult" during summit preparations.

&#9632; Another Japanese official describing rising tensions in the East China Sea, saying that "the increased aggressiveness of Chinese 'coastguard' and naval units… had provoked 'many dangerous encounters' with Japanese civilian and self-defence force ships".

The official said Japan had not reported all the incidents. The issue became public in the autumn when Japan arrested the captain of a Chinese fishing boat for ramming a coastguard vessel near disputed islands.

The cable refers to another dispute that later broke into the open. A Norwegian diplomat said Oslo was unhappy with the trend of bilateral relations, citing the lack of progress in human rights discussions and referring to the jailing of writer Liu Xiaobo. China reacted angrily when Norway's Nobel committee gave the peace prize to Liu recently.

The main tensions appear to be with China's neighbours or established western powers. In several cables US diplomats note China's growing influence in Latin America and Africa. One cable notes the Kenyan ambassador stressing the benefits of China's role on the continent and saying Africa has nothing to gain if the US and China co-operate.

Juliu Ole Sunkuli "claimed that Africa was better off thanks to China's practical, bilateral approach to development assistance and was concerned that this would be changed by 'western' interference… Sunkuli said Africans were frustrated by western insistence on capacity building, which translated, in his eyes, into conferences and seminars. They instead preferred China's focus on infrastructure and tangible projects."

Other cables suggested some African diplomats felt "a degree of suspicion and resentment" about China's role. A Nigerian official suggested poorer countries were "coerced" into aid-for-resources deals. Elsewhere a Moroccan diplomat commented: "China will never play the role of a global leader if it treats its trade partners so poorly."

WikiLeaks: Hillary Clinton's question: how can we stand up to Beijing?

Hillary Clinton revealed America's deep anxiety over China's growing economic power and hold on US finances by asking Australia's then prime minister: "How do you deal toughly with your banker?"

The question, at a lunch with Kevin Rudd last March and reported in a US Department of State cable, underscores the evolving and often difficult relationship between the world's superpower and an increasingly mighty China. It is the largest holder of US treasury bonds, with around $870bn. Tensions are also highlighted in an economic dispatch, written by the US ambassador to Beijing last January, warning of a "rough" year for relations between the two countries and accusing China of hubris.

His remarks presaged increasing tensions between the two countries over their currencies and fears of protectionism. The United States is pushing China to allow significant appreciation of the yuan, which it says is substantially undervalued, while Beijing is unhappy at the US Federal Reserve's loosening of monetary policy through quantitative easing.

Another cable from last year quotes a senior Chinese official predicting that the midterm elections in America would increase pressure for protectionism in the US and expressing fears about the Fed "printing lots of money".

According to the note of Clinton's lunch with Rudd in Washington: "The secretary affirmed the US desire for a successful China, with a rising standard of living and improving democracy at a pace Chinese leaders could tolerate… The secretary also noted the challenges posed by China's economic rise, asking: 'How do you deal toughly with your banker?'"

Rudd responded by calling himself "a brutal realist on China", arguing for a policy of "integrating China effectively into the international community and allowing it to demonstrate greater responsibility, all while also preparing to deploy force if everything goes wrong". He described Chinese leaders as "subrational and deeply emotional" on Taiwan, a frequent source of tension with the US.

[...]

"Ten per cent US unemployment coupled with our huge trade deficit with China, China's increasing use of industrial policies to restrict market access, and an undervalued RMB [yuan], will bring greater tension to bilateral ties. The Google case adds fuel to the fire."

 

[Funky Papa]

US embassy cables: Spanish PM's intervention caused Rolls-Royce to lose defence contract, US claims

For example, at one point the Ambassador informed Zapatero that U.S. CEO's might decide to stop bidding in Spain due to a growing perception that the GOS was not welcoming US bidders on procurement contracts. Zapatero had told the Ambassador to let him know if there was something important to the USG and he would take care of it. Later - when the USG had agreed to advocate on behalf of GE in a bid against Rolls Royce for a Spanish MOD contract to provide helicopter motors - GE informed the Ambassador that failure to win the contract would cause that branch of GE to cease operations in Spain, which the Ambassador duly informed Zapatero's economic adviser. Although there was considerable all-source evidence to suggest that the MOD decided to award the contract to Rolls Royce, Moncloa - the office of the President - overturned the decision and it was announced that GE had won the bid. The Ambassador is convinced that Zapatero personally intervened in the case in favor of GE.

 

[empty vessel]

US embassy cables: Spanish PM's intervention caused Rolls-Royce to lose defence contract, US claims

The "free market" in practice exposed as little more than mafia-style business. Which is what it is, of course.

 

[louis89]

I'm sure it's been asked a billion times, but:

Why don't they release the cables all at once?

 

[EzLink]

I'm sure it's been asked a billion times, but:

Why don't they release the cables all at once?

Probably to stretch out the awareness as long as possible. If they released everything at once, it would be out of the news much quicker than if they continue with their current strategy of staggering the release of controversial information