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Somnid said:
The melee's do have slightly wierd hit detection. I think it's client side or something so you could apear to hit someone but they hit you first, but the worst part is the glitchy lunge. Me and friends were watching a replay of narrows, where on the man-cannon he was assassinated by a player that was incoming, the lunge basically glitched and the other player was essentially standing on his head and jerked downward to get the hit.

There were also oddities in some LAN games so it's not just the connection.

I've been having serious issues with melee, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one. I've also fired several rounds into a guy before going in for the melee and they still sometimes get the clear when they should clearly have less health.
 
With trial and error, I figured out on my own a few days after launch that whoever gets the jump on the other first with identical weapons and has the most health when they come to blows will always win - e.g.: you come up behind someone at mid-range and start shooting with the AR, he turns around and starts firing his AR at you - as long as you didn't miss some shots while he started firing at you, and you damaged him more than he damaged you, you will win 100% of the time, 1 on 1...

In other words, if someone gets the jump on you, turn around and shoot, but don't approach him - back up and strafe, and hope that he misses - if you out-maneuver him, you may get the kill by the time the clip is empty - if he closes in and melees after a good bit of constant fire, you WILL lose the melee battle...

Then I saw in the yesterday's Bungie Weekly Update that Frankie basically confirmed the same thing - whoever has the most health will win, period.

About the grenades, they have been constant for me everytime - either you or your opponent has some really bad lag, or you're making the common mistake of throwing the grenade at the point where they are, instead of throwing ahead of them, i.e. ahead of the direction they're heading in... having the grenade going off at a safe distance after he's already moved past it, leaving you dead...

Hope this helps, and I dunno why you'd think no one would help you in the official thread, especially since it's been brought up before already...
 
So, just came back from my first real Halo 3 MP experience, which 6 players.

It's excellent. So much better than Halo 2 in my opinion, mostly because of weapon balance. I can totally see why H2 players are getting annoyed with the game, the BR is much less of a dominating weapon. In fact, the AR is much better for close range shooting and on the smaller maps I learnt to stick with that (though the BR is still great for medium/long range)

All the weapons seem to be useful, and have very specific roles to play in the game (aside from duels) and everything about my experience was better than the last Halo, which I really enjoyed.

Lots of fun was had by all, especially me. Great game.
 
ItsInMyVeins said:
WTH?

If they melee each other at the same time shouldn't it affect both? >;/


It does, but the "win" on a pixel/nanosecond identical melee goes to the strongest player. Which is fair.
 
Aurora said:
Right. The three Asian languages are Japanese, Korean and Chinese respectively. You want the last one which is Chinese.

When you go into Slayer press X to enter matchmaking options and select the last option which specifies the search to Chinese-speaking gamers only. As someone correctly pointed out, the search is so specific that nobody but achievement whores will be found. :)

Most of the players I came across spoke Chinese or Japanese, but that really isn't a problem. Depending on the level they will understand exactly which achievements are attainable so just go grab your Spartan Laser, get into your Mongoose etc. and they will co-operate.

Hope that helps.
I said wow
 
Good games Gowans and Homez (you're crazy). My first 4p co-op experience and it was pretty cool! :D

Sometimes I don't respond (that fast) cause you guys talk so fast in british, with all the action going on and the less than crisp clear sound quality makes it harder for me to focus on what you guys are actually saying.
 
Am I the only one noticing that there hasn't been a podcast in two weeks ?

I thought it was supposed to regularize more after launch ? Or are the podcast peeps on vacation ?
 
Domino Theory said:
Am I the only one noticing that there hasn't been a podcast in two weeks ?

I thought it was supposed to regularize more after launch ? Or are the podcast peeps on vacation ?

At the end of the last podcast they said it would be a few weeks till the next one.
 
Somnid said:
The melee's do have slightly wierd hit detection. I think it's client side or something so you could apear to hit someone but they hit you first, but the worst part is the glitchy lunge. Me and friends were watching a replay of narrows, where on the man-cannon he was assassinated by a player that was incoming, the lunge basically glitched and the other player was essentially standing on his head and jerked downward to get the hit.

There were also oddities in some LAN games so it's not just the connection.

I have noticed this a LOT in shotty snipers. It seems like the shot gun has such a dependence on the server that if you are not host you cant do shit with it. Same goes for sniping people.

I have had games where my team did awesome and others where it was like we had no control.
 
Just got through the campaign and subsequently recovered my account to play multiplayer, good times to say the least.

Though for some reason my game history (according to B.net) still shows I've yet to play any games (or rather it only shows my brothers games on my non-recovered account back home). It seems to update my achievements and what not but not my games/emblem/service tag, etc. Am I missing something or what...?
 
HallwayGiant said:
Just got through the campaign and subsequently recovered my account to play multiplayer, good times to say the least.

Though for some reason my game history (according to B.net) still shows I've yet to play any games (or rather it only shows my brothers games on my non-recovered account back home). It seems to update my achievements and what not but not my games/emblem/service tag, etc. Am I missing something or what...?
Bungie.net sometimes lags on updating certain aspects of your profile. It's due to high online userbase.

Couple of hours ago the game said there were around 1.15million people online. Our party couldn't get retrieve info from xbox live servers so we just did some co-op legendary (4 skulls on) and it was pretty cool.

tak said:
Seriously? There have been a lot of people here that have done it. I haven't seen any of them complain about being banned.
It's not official Bungie policy but Frankie and especially Luke use the banhammer as they please. You canwrite them a letter to make an exception.
 
Stinkles said:
It does, but the "win" on a pixel/nanosecond identical melee goes to the strongest player. Which is fair.

Depends on what you think is fair, but when I know that when he has no shields and i hear BOTH of our melees hit (which is quite often, actually) the other person lives while I die.

melee is my weapon of choice, too... check my profile :P so it greatly affects my game... when both melees hit... they should both hit, even if we both die

one thing i'm trying to figure out is my ridiculous amount of "Killed by the Guardians" as a weapon :P
 
DopeyFish said:
Depends on what you think is fair, but when I know that when he has no shields and i hear BOTH of our melees hit (which is quite often, actually) the other person lives while I die.

melee is my weapon of choice, too... check my profile :P so it greatly affects my game... when both melees hit... they should both hit, even if we both die
At least now I have a reason to curse every time this happens ;_;
 
Doesn't height make a difference in melee as well, such as if you're above the other person even slightly it will give you the advantage? Also bungie.net stats not updating are bizarre. I have a group of 3 other friends I've played with every day. One friend does now show any updates since Wednesday, me and another since Thursday, but our fourth is completely up to date, including today. Weird.

Approximately 25 people on my friends list have done the achievement thing (it looks like maybe more, but I haven't talked to them directly), I'm not sure how well it will go over if they start banning people, especially since there was no violation of terms whatsoever :lol . I just looked, I couldn't find anyone at any of the major forums or anything saying they were banned for it or anything like that. I'm actually glad people are doing it that way, so on the rare occasions I actually want to play FFA, and for the people who mainly play that, it doesn't mess it up for them. I played a few games yesterday in Lone Wolves and almost every game people were asking to get achievements, it's the same damn thing. Hopefully that will die down soon though. If Luke or Frankie wants to give me an address to write to them, I'll write them a letter (seriously).
 
Stinkles said:
It does, but the "win" on a pixel/nanosecond identical melee goes to the strongest player. Which is fair.

Except it feels like the timing leeway is too large. I hear my fist pop him before he pops me, and then I die. Even if he had more health, I hit him first. The first one to shoot someone else gets the win, but meelees don't feel like they work that way.

Oh well. The downsides of internet play, I guess?
 
Justin said:
At the end of the last podcast they said it would be a few weeks till the next one.

Next one comes out Monday, recorded before the announcement. Bungie's Executive Producer Jonty Barnes is the guest.

We're recording a new one on Monday for swifter release.
 
SailorDaravon said:
Doesn't height make a difference in melee as well, such as if you're above the other person even slightly it will give you the advantage? Also bungie.net stats not updating are bizarre. I have a group of 3 other friends I've played with every day. One friend does now show any updates since Wednesday, me and another since Thursday, but our fourth is completely up to date, including today. Weird.

Approximately 25 people on my friends list have done the achievement thing (it looks like maybe more, but I haven't talked to them directly), I'm not sure how well it will go over if they start banning people, especially since there was no violation of terms whatsoever :lol . I just looked, I couldn't find anyone at any of the major forums or anything saying they were banned for it or anything like that. I'm actually glad people are doing it that way, so on the rare occasions I actually want to play FFA, and for the people who mainly play that, it doesn't mess it up for them. I played a few games yesterday in Lone Wolves and almost every game people were asking to get achievements, it's the same damn thing. Hopefully that will die down soon though. If Luke or Frankie wants to give me an address to write to them, I'll write them a letter (seriously).
You have to write by hand though, they don't want no lazy typers. No mistakes either.

On the website it says that all correspondence can be sent to the following address:

Bungie Studios
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052


Just address it to either Luke Smith or Frank O' Conner
 
Tieno said:
You have to write by hand though, they don't want no lazy typers. No mistakes either.

On the website it says that all correspondence can be sent to the following address:

Bungie Studios
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052


Just address it to either Luke Smith or Frank O' Conner

Awesome :lol . Would it actually get to you guys like that?
 
i got a question regarding the skulls.I dont know if this has been answered but there is alot of pages to go through.I finished the game and im going through to get the skulls on Heroic but they aren't showing up.I saw a video showing the locations and they just aren't there am I missing something I did manage to get the one but none of the others are there.
 
Cmagus said:
i got a question regarding the skulls.I dont know if this has been answered but there is alot of pages to go through.I finished the game and im going through to get the skulls on Heroic but they aren't showing up.I saw a video showing the locations and they just aren't there am I missing something I did manage to get the one but none of the others are there.

you must start the mission from the beginning.

On The Storm you cannot destroy the AA Wraith or the Skull will disappear
 
Cmagus said:
i got a question regarding the skulls.I dont know if this has been answered but there is alot of pages to go through.I finished the game and im going through to get the skulls on Heroic but they aren't showing up.I saw a video showing the locations and they just aren't there am I missing something I did manage to get the one but none of the others are there.

Stop trying to cheese it by using the Insertion points!
 
Cmagus said:
i got a question regarding the skulls.I dont know if this has been answered but there is alot of pages to go through.I finished the game and im going through to get the skulls on Heroic but they aren't showing up.I saw a video showing the locations and they just aren't there am I missing something I did manage to get the one but none of the others are there.
Don't use the checkpoints; play through the levels.
 
NJ x Falkor said:
The store you bought it from is probably your only hope

Legendary edition. They're all sold out, I figure, and they're Gamestop.

Knocking over 10 magazine racks couldn't help me.

SailorDaravon said:
You STILL haven't gotten any kind of response or help on that? Damn dude, that sucks.

Yeah, Frank nor Luke won't spare 10 seconds of their valuable time to help poor emo numbers


:'( <TEAR
 
I would like to cheese the terminals as much as possible. What is the all around easiest and quickest way to get them all? This is all I need and i will have all 1000/1000 :D

Just play through those 3 stages I guess?
 
numbers said:
Would Microsoft be able to replace a Legendary Edition DVD? Mine won't play and nobody will help meh :(

That's probably a Microsoft question. Was the disc scratched or does the DVD appear fine and it just isn't playing?
 
LukeSmith said:
That's probably a Microsoft question. Was the disc scratched or does the DVD appear fine and it just isn't playing?

Omg yay.

The disc was messed up from manufacturing, there is a small blemish in it that freezes my 360 after I start playing it.

So, you don't know if they'd be able to ship me a new Legendary DVD?

Luke + 10 cool points.

Stinkles, -10.


(For clarification, the disc in question is the Legendary Edition Exclusive DVD, with the cutscenes and such stuff)
 
numbers said:
Omg yay.

The disc was messed up from manufacturing, there is a small blemish in it that freezes my 360 after I start playing it.

So, you don't know if they'd be able to ship me a new Legendary DVD?

Luke + 10 cool points.

Stinkles, -10.


(For clarification, the disc in question is the Legendary Edition Exclusive DVD, with the cutscenes and such stuff)

I don't know for sure, simply because I've not heard of this being a widespread problem so there's probably not a formal plan for dealing with it. Call the 18004myxbox number and try and sort it out there.
 
vumpler said:
I would like to cheese the terminals as much as possible. What is the all around easiest and quickest way to get them all? This is all I need and i will have all 1000/1000 :D

Just play through those 3 stages I guess?

I got them all very easily. As I mentioned previously in this thread, you can start on checkpoints if you know where they are, you don't need to get them in order, and you can save and quit the level once you've gotten all of them in each level. Just make sure you wait for the terminal to turn red and the new message to pop up.
 
Why ban people for just getting the achievements. As it stands, when I go into lone wolves games every asshole is not playing the game right.
 
RiskyChris said:
Why ban people for just getting the achievements. As it stands, when I go into lone wolves games every asshole is not playing the game right.

That is the problem. I would much rather people don't clutter the lone wolf games with "achievement whoring".
 
RiskyChris said:
Why ban people for just getting the achievements. As it stands, when I go into lone wolves games every asshole is not playing the game right.



Frankie was in Lone Wolves the other night. Probably taking names and kickin ass. Ban style
 
Doodlebug said:
http://highimpacthalo.org/forum/showthread.php?t=34145

I'm not sure whether the video includes a tut or not, but I hope it's helpful.

They managed to do it by jumping off each other. One guy jumped on another dude's head, the bottom dude jumped off, and then the top dude jumped off the bottom dude's head as they reached the farthest point in the hole before falling to their deaths.

I want to learn how to do it with the grenade, but the hole is freaking huge. It's also hard to make the grenade stop at the edge so you can bounce off it. Furthermore, I have to start way at the beginning when I die. It's obnoxious having to trek all the way back to that area. Those dudes just spawn next to each other whenever one of them dies.

Oh well, thanks anyway. That was fun to watch.

siamesedreamer said:
Seriously, WTF?

I can't get the IWHBYD skull to show up. I'm jumping through the rings in the right sequence. Halo3planet.com makes it seem like a note is supposed to sound when you jump through each one. Is that correct? They also say you have to kill all the flood. Is that correct? I've got one little bugger left that I can't kill because its like he's under the fucking bridge...

I didn't get any notes or music when I did it. I first tried it on my way to Truth, and it didn't work. So, I figured to do it after killing most of the Flood, since there's no need for the first two rings. I didn't hear any music that time either, so I figured to kill all of the flood and then try again. I killed all of them, did the jumping, and heard nothing... No notes... No Halo theme... I walked towards the prophet's area and noticed the skull on the ground. It's weird.

I also had one of the tiny flood spores under the bridge, but you can walk away from it to the other portion of the bridge and it will disappear.
 
Melees in 3 are no more random than they were in 2, it's always gonna come down to who has best connection majority of the time, it's not exclusive to this game.
 
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