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[lazytonberry]

Aw, come on, don't be like that. Let's get started on the right foot: welcome.

Heh it's all good, just having a bit of fun. For the record, though, it was slightly serious: I've read your posts in the past, and it did make me :lol (in disbelief, usually - the music part a while back was particularly amusing), but don't take it in a bad way!

It'll be interesting to play Halo with some people here one day maybe, though my friends list is pretty full right now so I dunno how it'll work. Guess I'll try adding the GAF tag to see who all is on ever.

As far as AR vs. BR...

It was actually kind of funny recently, where I offhandedly mentioned while playing customs with my friends, that I considered Guardian a BR map. I forget why I mentioned it but two of my friends said it wasn't, and was an AR map instead because of the close quarters.

My reasoning was that because of the wide open spaces in the middle area and the long sightlines from yellow to sniper, as well as blue to tree, and the entire bottom hallway, you were required to be more accurate and precise with your BR shots in order to be effective. Having an AR vs. almost anything in that situation would usually result in your death or at least the inability to kill anyone else. The AR would only be useful in the situations that you come across the opposing team while trying to rush and retake an area, or possibly defend one.

Anyway I also brought up the fact that I'm pretty useless without a BR on that map (or any map for that matter), and if I can't find one for a while then it usually means I do not do well at all.

The question was then brought up: what map isn't a BR map then? And my answer was: they are all BR maps.

This is why the AR is terrible and should never be the starting weapon. The end.

 

[TheSeks]

I wouldn't mind playing with you guys on Custom Nights (if I feel like popping Halo 3 in), if you don't mind beating up a cripple with no mic. :lol

A bunch of you are like... level 55 (?) in playlists and I barely make 30, so yeah... I'm intimidated to post in this thread as I'm more a "casual" Halo 3 player.

I'm more into playing Infection, so that probably kills a lot of the players in here for playing with me. I'm more into playing for fun than being serious business 24/7 (that, and I like playing forged maps that are flame grenade wars that chug the 360 than anything else :lol ).

Just posting in here to throw my hat into the ring, could use some fun dates with "teh GAF" kids.

 

[Devin Olsen]

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See my above explanation?

Devin has an avatar! Yay!

I didn't mean to hate on you Dax... I just get very opinionated when it comes to AR/BR discussion... I don't actually think you're bad at Halo... Don't worry Dax.

And yeah, I have an avatar... Though I am at work, so my resources at the moment are rather limited... So the avatar sucks for the time being.

edit:

A bunch of you are like... level 55 (?) in playlists and I barely make 30, so yeah... I'm intimidated to post in this thread as I'm more a "casual" Halo 3 player.

lol

Level 50 is the highest you can be.

 

[LosDaddie]

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choose your avatars carefully!!!!!

Are you really not able to change your avatar?

 

[Kibbles]

Oh why thank you Dax



Agh! Was there really? I apologize... What I meant was my montage wasn't like almost every other montage that is like 99% sniper rifle kills.

Please forgive me




o rly

What exactly have I done to impress you? Tricking, Montages, Evading Bans left and right on HBO?

I would just like to point out that you sir have a pretty rad name.

Hey Devin is here!

 

[Nutter]

Are you really not able to change your avatar?

Yes, He really can not change his avatar anymore. So choose wisely.

 

[Devin Olsen]

Hey Devin is here!

Finally!

Still waiting for it to say 'The legend' or something to that effect, below my name.

That comes on day two I assume, right?

 

[ShinAmano]

Since I just saw the words 'Flame Grenades' I thought I would ask despite knowing that somewhere deep in the belly of this thread is the answer...

Why no flame grenades in matchmaking? And why the lack of the flamethrower?

 

[The Librarian]

Heh it's all good, just having a bit of fun. For the record, though, it was slightly serious: I've read your posts in the past, and it did make me :lol (in disbelief, usually - the music part a while back was particularly amusing), but don't take it in a bad way!

It's all right. As for the rest of your post, this is how I feel.

It seems like a niche playlist as is, but.. why do you say that?

Why do I say what? By "niche" I mean it won't have a lot of friends. At least, not as much as the GAF Halo 3 gamertag.

I love SQB, but I don't want to play it a lot or on a regular basis because once you get past a certain point... you can't find a game. I'm currently a level 17 in there, so, yeah.

Finally!

Still waiting for it to say 'The legend' or something to that effect, below my name.

That comes on day two I assume, right?

Too bad no admin/mod on GAF is a huge Halo fan.:lol

Devin, I expect you to be everyone's go-to man for anything new/interesting that has been posted in the HBO forums.

 

[Sai-kun]

Oh god new people I have enough trouble remembering who's who with all the regular people! >:| Gr. I think I might delete a whole bunch of people I never ever play with and add some of you peeps. Having a full friends list totally blows.

 

[minasodaboy]

it really isn't a good AR v. BR discussion without xxjuicesxx

 

[BerserkerBarage]

Thanks: nice to see some more AR fans finally joining GAF.

On the subject of that, though...

When it comes to more experienced players, BR starts make sense. Anecdotal evidence aside, the fact that I get 80% BR starts in all my TS games, despite the 80% AR starts weight, supports this. BR starts make the most sense, logically, for any multiplayer game (the fact that it is the best mid-range weapon in the game makes it the "best" starting weapon). When it comes to AR starts games, there are those times when you spawn and you're pecked by BR bullets, not being able to do anything about it until you find a BR yourself.

However, while logically BR starts make the most sense, AR starts support the less experienced gamers and this is where most of the population lies. This is why (not only because I like variety) every playlist should come with both AR and BR starts. Personally, I like both, and I don't want any playlist to be completely 100% one type of weapon start.

I prefer AR starts only because I like the weapon more than the BR (been a fan of the AR since Halo 1).

What people fail to understand is that Halo HAS NEVER been about being a competitive game. It wasn't about starting with a "headshot"/precision weapon. Halo, and subsequently Marathon before it, was about starting with a decent weapon but being rewarded for finding "better weapons nearby". Take Halo CE for example. Default Team Slayer (which there was only 1 variant of that shipped with HCE) had something called a "kill penalty". Which made it so the more people you killed, the slower you moved. The slower you moved, the less you could strafe, make jumps, get to medpacks, et cetera. This was the ONLY way to play Team Slayer in HCE until people decided to make other options (Team Slayer Pro, Team Snipers, etc). Who remembers spawning on Prisoner with only a Plasma Pistol? I do. Who remembers spawning on Longest with a Plasma Pistol and Plasma Rifle? I do. And all while that happened, it didn't make HCE a "noob" game and neither does it in Halo 3.

What people fail to understand is that most of them played a "custom variant" of HCE. Most people played "Team Slayer Pro" or "CTF Pro" (which is AR/M6D starts for those that don't know). I know that's how I did it when I hosted LANs every week. They quickly forget that if they played HCE that way, it wasn't how it was originally crafted or set up for what would have been in MM (if it would have existed then). Just like if I solely played Team Snipers as my default variant in HCE, that doesn't change what the "default" game was.

Regardless, AR/M6G starts are still "more skillful" than BR/AR starts in Halo 3, and it still promotes the principles of what Halo was built on. But the best thing about Halo, is that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to play the game, and the ability to play a variety of gametypes/playlists is what sets it apart from other FPS.

~B.B.

 

[Butane123]

Hey guys, I've got another map idea finally.

Very early peek.

Trying to do more of an arena style map. The best way I can describe this one is its kinda going to be a mix of Gemini (Duality from Marathon) and Midship.

 

[TheSeks]

Why no flame grenades in matchmaking? And why the lack of the flamethrower?

Flamethrower is in some playlists, I remember seeing it on one of the base maps (unless Bungie dropped it?). Bungie's stated that flame 'nades aren't in matchmaking due to performance issues (which is partially true, forge a crapload of them in Foundry/Sandbox/wherever and get 16 players to throw at them. Lag city.)

edit:

Level 50 is the highest you can be.

Well, in my defense I'll never be good enough to even REACH that level. :lol

 

[BerserkerBarage]

Oh god new people I have enough trouble remembering who's who with all the regular people! >:| Gr. I think I might delete a whole bunch of people I never ever play with and add some of you peeps. Having a full friends list totally blows.

Is this the same Sai-Kun from the old Xbox.com forums? The guy that got to play Halo 3 early during the Linkin Park concert tour?

I've always assumed it was.

~B.B.

 

[Louis Wu]

Finally!

Still waiting for it to say 'The legend' or something to that effect, below my name.

That comes on day two I assume, right?

Be careful what you wish for.

Really.

Devin, I expect you to be everyone's go-to man for anything new/interesting that has been posted in the HBO forums.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[FFChris]

Wow, haven't seen HaloGaf this busy in a long time!

 

[kylej]

Regardless, AR/M6G starts are still "more skillful" than BR/AR starts in Halo 3

lol

 

[Plywood]

Why do I say what? By "niche" I mean it won't have a lot of friends. At least, not as much as the GAF Halo 3 gamertag.

I love SQB, but I don't want to play it a lot or on a regular basis because once you get past a certain point... you can't find a game. I'm currently a level 17 in there, so, yeah.

I don't like your pessimistic attitude.

Spoiler

Ranked 16 and I get plenty of games

 

[Sai-kun]

Is this the same Sai-Kun from the old Xbox.com forums? The guy that got to play Halo 3 early during the Linkin Park concert tour?

I've always assumed it was.

~B.B.

holy shit, you remember that? :lol Awesome!! Yeah I'm the same guy Sup mang!

 

[BladedExpert]

Yes, He really can not change his avatar anymore. So choose wisely.

This. Sadface.

 

[BerserkerBarage]

lol

Yeah, because the BR is such a terribly "skillful" weapon in Halo 3. Aside from the fact that the M6G definitively takes more "skill" than the BR, I fail to see how that's funny. As does the Carbine, and Snipers.

Anyone who thinks that the BR is a skill-defining weapon is delusional.

~B.B.

 

[The Librarian]

Regardless, AR/M6G starts are still "more skillful" than BR/AR starts in Halo 3, and it still promotes the principles of what Halo was built on. But the best thing about Halo, is that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to play the game, and the ability to play a variety of gametypes/playlists is what sets it apart from other FPS.

~B.B.

Can definitely see where you're coming from, given the background you've described. What you've said is understandable.

As for the stuff in the quote, I forgot to mention that I think the AR starts does promote the three aspects of Halo (weapons, grenades, and melee) more fully than the BR does. Everything I said before still stands, though.

I'll also agree with the notion that there is "no 'right' or 'wrong' way to play Halo."

Hey guys, I've got another map idea finally.

http://i29.tinypic.com/w7asy.jpg[/i

Very early peek.

Trying to do more of an arena style map. The best way I can describe this one is its kinda going to be a mix of Gemini (Duality from Marathon) and Midship.[/QUOTE]
Cool.

I just had an interesting idea: what if someone were to create a map in the shape of a Halo weapon... Probably wouldn't play well, but it's interesting to think about it.:lol

 

[Butane123]

I just had an interesting idea: what if someone were to create a map in the shape of a Halo weapon... Probably wouldn't play well, but it's interesting to think about it.:lol

It would have to be in the shape of an Assault Rifle. Just to spite people, of course.


Edit: And nothing but Needlers and power weapons on it.

Edit x 2: Dammit I'm being redundant as hell today.

 

[The Librarian]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

You're an amazing guy, Wu. What I said wasn't including you.

I don't like your pessimistic attitude.

Spoiler

Ranked 16 and I get plenty of games

Yeah, I get plenty of games, too, I just don't want to play too much so I don't get a game.

 

[BerserkerBarage]

holy shit, you remember that? :lol Awesome!! Yeah I'm the same guy Sup mang!

I remember a lot of things. But I definitely remember that. Posted pictures of you and C. Paul and Jay Weinland (who I got to meet at PAX last year along with Marty).

I figured it had to be the same person. Nice to finally get to know if I was right or not. LOL.

~B.B.

 

[Walshicus]

I remember a lot of things. But I definitely remember that. Posted pictures of you and C. Paul and Jay Weinland (who I got to meet at PAX last year along with Marty).

I figured it had to be the same person. Nice to finally get to know if I was right or not. LOL.

~B.B.

I know you...

 

[BerserkerBarage]

It would have to be in the shape of an Assault Rifle. Just to spite people, of course.


Edit: And nothing but Needlers and power weapons and bubbles and regens on it, of course.

FTFY

And I'd soooo play that.

~B.B.

 

[DiabolicalBagel]

...and here I come to ruin it! 8 juniors

So, I've been lurking GAF for over a year now, on and off. I was content for that whole time just lurking and planning and.. wait, no.
Anyway, I finally decided to register. 3-4 days it took! Record?

Hi guys! Glad I now have a voice here. :lol

 

[Devin Olsen]

Too bad no admin/mod on GAF is a huge Halo fan.:lol

Devin, I expect you to be everyone's go-to man for anything new/interesting that has been posted in the HBO forums.

RSS feed is a thing of the past. The Devin Olsen feed is the way to go.

All joking aside, would posting cool HBO stuff here be cool with you guys? Or would that be kind of useless since most of you browse HBO anyways?

Be careful what you wish for.

Really.

This is some sort of a preminition, isn't it...

I was joking though, I don't actually expect to have my 'title' changed anytime soon.

 

[BerserkerBarage]

I know you...

*Waves like a tourist to Fragula*

Whenever you want PM in Body Politic back, just let me know :lol

It's such a hard job being the supreme commander of a dead chapter on B.net =***(

Although, speaking of Body Politic, I got to get some Halo 3 games in with Marinealver a few days ago. Talk about a blast from the past on that one Frag.

~B.B.

 

[The Librarian]

RSS feed is a thing of the past. The Devin Olsen feed is the way to go.

All joking aside, would posting cool HBO stuff here be cool with you guys? Or would that be kind of useless since most of you browse HBO anyways?

If it's Halo related, you post it. No one is going to give you any scrutiny for that. Besides, not everyone has time to browse both HBO and GAF, especially when school starts back up.

...and here I come to ruin it! 8 juniors

So, I've been lurking GAF for over a year now, on and off. I was content for that whole time just lurking and planning and.. wait, no.
Anyway, I finally decided to register. 3-4 days it took! Record?

Hi guys! Glad I now have a voice here. :lol

Just count yourself lucky (and welcome).

Nice to see HaloGAF this active.

 

[Stormtrooper30]

Backflip, Tashi, BladedExpert, Stormtrooper (not sure on Stormtrooper) play regularly together, but then again that's just another impression I get.

I try to fit in with the more competitive players but usually end up being the support guy that gets 20 assists and 5 kills... they make me feel insignificant.

I think Devin Olsen played with some of us at like 2 in the morning last HaloGAF night in MM. Was fun.

On the subject of that, though...

When it comes to more experienced players, BR starts make sense. Anecdotal evidence aside, the fact that I get 80% BR starts in all my TS games, despite the 80% AR starts weight, supports this. BR starts make the most sense, logically, for any multiplayer game (the fact that it is the best mid-range weapon in the game makes it the "best" starting weapon). When it comes to AR starts games, there are those times when you spawn and you're pecked by BR bullets, not being able to do anything about it until you find a BR yourself.

However, while logically BR starts make the most sense, AR starts support the less experienced gamers and this is where most of the population lies. This is why (not only because I like variety) every playlist should come with both AR and BR starts. Personally, I like both, and I don't want any playlist to be completely 100% one type of weapon start.

I prefer AR starts only because I like the weapon more than the BR (been a fan of the AR since Halo 1).

Where the hell has this been? This is the first legitimate argument for the AR that I've ever seen.

Spoiler

BR still wins

The question was then brought up: what map isn't a BR map then? And my answer was: they are all BR maps.

This is why the AR is terrible and should never be the starting weapon. The end.

Somebody hire this man.

Spoiler

this is the next Juices. Calling it now.

~B.B.

It burns!

EDIT: Since when is the abbreviation for Squad Battle SQB? Is the "Q" really necessary? For the one guy that really wants to play SB: On HaloGAF customs night we usually end up playing SB when the numbers in the party start to dwindle. When we don't have enough for BTB but too much for slayer.

 

[BerserkerBarage]

All joking aside, would posting cool HBO stuff here be cool with you guys? Or would that be kind of useless since most of you browse HBO anyways?

Go for it. Ripping off Claude for news stories shouldn't just be for Urk...

It's like I told BS Angel. You don't get pissed at a new station for reporting on the same thing other stations did. You just listen to how their view of it goes.

~B.B.

 

[The Librarian]

Where the hell has this been? This is the first legitimate argument for the AR that I've ever seen.

Spoiler

BR still wins

Thanks. And you can still say BR wins:lol.

EDIT: Since when is the abbreviation for Squad Battle SQB? Is the "Q" really necessary? For the one guy that really wants to play SB: On HaloGAF customs night we usually end up playing SB when the numbers in the party start to dwindle. When we don't have enough for BTB but too much for slayer.

A "Q" makes everything look cooler.

Spoiler

"BSG".. is the "S" really necessary?

 

[Sai-kun]

I remember a lot of things. But I definitely remember that. Posted pictures of you and C. Paul and Jay Weinland (who I got to meet at PAX last year along with Marty).

I figured it had to be the same person. Nice to finally get to know if I was right or not. LOL.

~B.B.

Yeah I still have all the pics and stuff. God that was awesome.

someone should make a level with only spartan lasers

i would never play anything else

 

[Blueblur1]

The thread has been moving a lot today. It reminds me of when it was first started and there would be at the minimum 6 new pages everyday.

And Plywood, maybe it would be better to make a Squad Battle gamertag? Honestly, you can just message people when they're online and invite them to play Squad Battle matches without having to recruit a list. I suggest adding the 'GAF Halo 3' tag to your friends list but do not be surprised if you can't as there are 99 users on that account's friends list right now. I'm going to message fin so he can purge it of any non-active accounts.

 

[Huttie0]

I don't think the AR is BETTER than the BR, but the AR certainly is a good weapon, especially at very close range.

 

[vhfive]

thinking about just buying an arcade. ms support is being a bitch. thoughts?

Spoiler

if i do it will probably be before this weekend

and berserkerbarage

Spoiler

i refuse to call him b.b.

is the new dax

 

[The Librarian]

thinking about just buying an arcade. ms support is being a bitch. thoughts?

Spoiler

if i do it will probably be before this weekend

Whatever you feel is best. Can MS handle it within a reasonable timeframe?

and berserkerbarage

Spoiler

i refuse to call him b.b.

is the new dax

Doing the signature at the end of each post is an easy way to get a tag.:lol

 

[Sai-kun]

thinking about just buying an arcade. ms support is being a bitch. thoughts?

Spoiler

if i do it will probably be before this weekend

and berserkerbarage

Spoiler

i refuse to call him b.b.

is the new dax

hay bb

 

[BerserkerBarage]

hay bb

I've been doing it for over 5 years now on B.net. I don't think I'll be changing any time soon. Plus it's always humorous when someone who is arguing with me on the forums resorts to an ad hominem about my signature. Pretty much means the argument is over and it is hilarious every time it happens.

Seriously, are people still so convoluted to think that the BR takes more "skill" than the M6G? Really? Really???

~B.B.

 

[Stinkles]

A bunch of you are like... level 55 (?) in playlists and I barely make 30, so yeah... I'm intimidated to post in this thread as I'm more a "casual" Halo 3 player.

Don't sweat it, I'm like a 30 and I destroy all of the HaloGaf players with just a Missile Pod and a cheery wave.

 

[A Penguin]

I try to fit in with the more competitive players but usually end up being the support guy that gets 20 assists and 5 kills... they make me feel insignificant.

Same here, I love playing MLG (it's the playlist in which I have the most exp) but more often than not I go negative. I definitely do think that playing it will make you a better player.

The thread has been moving a lot today. It reminds me of when it was first started and there would be at the minimum 6 new pages everyday.

I don't recall this many newbies when I was approved. I think it was only me, Storm, and some guy from MLG (An Epic Name, I believe) who got banned in a month.

 

[Plywood]

The thread has been moving a lot today. It reminds me of when it was first started and there would be at the minimum 6 new pages everyday.

And Plywood, maybe it would be better to make a Squad Battle gamertag? Honestly, you can just message people when they're online and invite them to play Squad Battle matches without having to recruit a list. I suggest adding the 'GAF Halo 3' tag to your friends list but do not be surprised if you can't as there are 99 users on that account's friends list right now. I'm going to message fin so he can purge it of any non-active accounts.

K, I made it. Tag is HaloGaf SQB, I'll friend request the people who already wanted in on it. If anyone else wants in shoot me a pm so I know your a Gaffer, and kindly send it a friend request. Thanks :-D!

 

[KevinRo]

Finally!

Still waiting for it to say 'The legend' or something to that effect, below my name.

That comes on day two I assume, right?

joke post? The legend haha

btw nice abz

I'll also agree with the notion that there is "no 'right' or 'wrong' way to play Halo.

this is how i defend against the dax/AR combo: "Hey everyone, shoot across map at Dax first!"

 

[Grimm Fandango]

Seriously, are people still so convoluted to think that the BR takes more "skill" than the M6G? Really? Really???

Blarg just call it the fucking magnum :lol

oh and while everyone is arguing BR v AR

Spoiler

again

I'm a proud member of the melee club

 

[Sai-kun]

Don't sweat it, I'm like a 30 and I destroy all of the HaloGaf players with just a Missile Pod and a cheery wave.

he even has more kills with an AR than a BR!

 

[BerserkerBarage]

Blarg just call it the fucking magnum :lol

oh and while everyone is arguing BR v AR

Spoiler

again

I'm a proud member of the melee club

Another compulsive habit of mine. I typically call the pistol by it's designation so it's more clear about which I'm talking about. Saying "the pistol has a larger effective range than the BR" is both right and wrong depending on what pistol you're talking about. :lol

~B.B.

 

[Kibbles]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

And you would be... who? ;p