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GhaleonEB said:
I would like to see more changes to the existing maps and gametypes. The updates right now seem focused on getting community maps in place (both for matchmaking and the Bungie Day playlist), at the expense of everything else. I know we've been asking for more community content, so it's kind of lame to complain now that it's in the pipe. And I get that Shishka is one person doing a lot, but even small things could go a long way in the other playlists. The Standoff spawns, the flag return times, adding one-flag to BTB, you name it. It would go a long ways toward refreshing the existing playlists.
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I agree, and many here do. I can't understand why Team Slayer, Team Objective, Team Snipers, and Squad Battle have not gotten more treatment in terms of modified gametypes, maps, whatever. Nothing changed in an impactful way since launch for Team Objective. Little has been done in Slayer. Snipers? Nothing except Sniper variants have been added, and half are awful in the first place.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I would like to see more changes to the existing maps and gametypes. The updates right now seem focused on getting community maps in place (both for matchmaking and the Bungie Day playlist), at the expense of everything else. I know we've been asking for more community content, so it's kind of lame to complain now that it's in the pipe. And I get that Shishka is one person doing a lot, but even small things could go a long way in the other playlists. The Standoff spawns, the flag return times, adding one-flag to BTB, you name it. It would go a long ways toward refreshing the existing playlists.
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All this please, especially the Standoff spawns.
 
both our teammates quit he got up by 1 point.

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I feel so dumb not looking there. :lol
 
For the easily confused:

* Bungie Pro Video is going live on Bungie Day (7/7)
* It’s bundled with Bungie PRO
* All Bungie PRO members get 5 render minutes per month
* Monthly render minutes do NOT roll-over
* You should wait to buy Bungie PRO until on or after 7/7
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WTF!


Also, should I search in 4's or can I go in by myself on the 7th! and still play bungle!
 
Seems like a good update, I'm not super familiar with Fillion so I wasn't really interested with the stuff regarding him. If anyone is doing customs tonight I'll be on, team flag looks fun. Also, just rendered this film: 99% Luck, 1% skill..
Can't wait for that screenshot on Bungie Day!
 
Tashi0106 said:
What if we get matched against a Bungie team more than once and win both or more times. Moar pryzis????????????
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Dude, holy shit, TWO FUCKING RECON HELMETS???!!!! SiameseRecon.

And wow, Nathan looks a lot like Mr. Harold Ryan, except a lot nicer.
 
"Maybe even a screenshot". Pff, yeah of Halo: Reach. HUGE MASSIVE EPIC BLOWOUT of ODST and Mythic Part II. (or more realistically, a reveal of Heretic, which we all know about already) =P Nah, we won't get anything of Reach until around or after ODST ships. TGS maybe? I am expecting a reveal of Heretic.

What's this about render minutes not rolling over? It was said before they would rollover. Hm.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Unfortunately, Microsoft won't allow the Legendary map pack go free, despite every pack Bungie has ever released previously going that route. They did discount the price, though. So right now Legendary and Mythic cost, and there are no announced plans to change that.
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It's part of the incentive to buy ODST, and seems it has always been part of their plan. Buy ODST, get Halo 3 standard multiplayer + every map (Legendary, Mythic) + ODST campaign + Firefight.

If they gave away Legendary and Mythic for free, there'd be less value add to ODST.
 
xxjuicesxx said:
I see no Instagib.
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I went over to a bud's place and played 4 player splitscreen on a huge ass screen. I created a instagib gametype similar to yours but with a few changes and everyone loved it.

Sniper starts
Sword secondary on big maps (or no secondary on smaller maps)
Infinite ammo
No grenades
200% speed
75% gravity
Icons above player's head

Played it on Valhalla, Sandtrap, and High Ground. For 4v4 I'd guess that bigger maps would be most suitable. Definitely tweak the spawn or choose maps that don't have players spawning out in the open as they can be picked off from anywhere.

Plays just like UT's instagib with the exception of the melee component. Sticking with only the sniper makes it play a lot better than having the BR in there. With the BR the spread just makes for random kills and makes the sniper almost useless.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Unfortunately, Microsoft won't allow the Legendary map pack go free, despite every pack Bungie has ever released previously going that route.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but is this confirmed somewhere? (Honestly I don't know) Bungie as far as I remember has always been very particularly vague on when they've commented about it, and Microsoft would of course never admit to something like that I assume. Bungie makes great games and all, but I don't like giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone.

It's not like I feel it's 'bad' of Bungie either way. Legendary still sells right? Or at least has sold long after it came out? The market has shown it's support for this model I think.
 
PedroLumpy said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but is this confirmed somewhere? (Honestly I don't know) Bungie as far as I remember has always been very particularly vague on when they've commented about it, and Microsoft would of course never admit to something like that I assume. Bungie makes great games and all, but I don't like giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone.

It's not like I feel it's 'bad' of Bungie either way. Legendary still sells right? Or at least has sold long after it came out? The market has shown it's support for this model I think.
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It's not Bungie's decision to make, thus why they are vague.
 
Legendary and Mythic 1 map packs didn't go free, in order to boost the price of ODST.

Would you pay $60 for an expansion and 3 new maps?
Average person might not be swayed to purchase on that content alone.
But include 3 premium map packs and that adds value.
Then the little Firefight mp mode and Reach demo token, and the package starts to look more attractive.

What, no ODST cat helmet this time?
:D
 
Hey so I'm playing Lone Wolves which is rare for me but I thought that Boundless would be the only version of Snowbound available. I won, but I had to beat a shotty camper.
 
xDEILGYREx said:
Then the little Firefight mp mode and Reach demo token, and the package starts to look more attractive.

What, no ODST cat helmet this time?
:D
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There is no little. There is only awesome.
 
PedroLumpy said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but is this confirmed somewhere? (Honestly I don't know) Bungie as far as I remember has always been very particularly vague on when they've commented about it, and Microsoft would of course never admit to something like that I assume. Bungie makes great games and all, but I don't like giving the benefit of the doubt to anyone.

It's not like I feel it's 'bad' of Bungie either way. Legendary still sells right? Or at least has sold long after it came out? The market has shown it's support for this model I think.
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Bungie has said many, many times that they don't control pricing for Halo 3's content (nor ODST). They can't even release content when it is done - the maps shipping with ODST were done early fall last year. Microsoft pushed them to ODST in order to increase the value (and price). They've been pretty clear about all of that in their site, podcasts and interviews, though usually it's worded diplomatically. I think Falagard hit the nail on the head with regard to the map pricing strategy earlier.

From Microsoft's perspective, it makes sense not to allow the maps to go free. Bungie said a few months ago that 5,000 copies of Legendary are purchased every day, a full year after they came out. That's $7.50 x 5,000 = $37,500 per day, x 30 = $1.125m per month. Money they'd give up if they let the maps go free. Not sure how much Bungie gets of that.

I was describing the situation to a new visitor so he would 1) know not to expect the content to ever go free, and thus inform any purchase decision, and 2) inform him who was responsible for that decision. It's a pretty logical call on Microsoft's part, given Halo's popularity. I don't blame MS for doing so; they're not running a charity here. My intent was to describe who's pulling the strings, not hate on them for doing so.

It does put Bungie in a hard situation, though. And from the perspective of anyone in the active Halo 3 community, it sucked very hard, because it's constrained how Bungie could integrate the maps into matchmaking. They just this month bit the bullet and made Mythic required on many of the playlists, to my delight and the delight of most who own the maps. Newcomers who don't are less happy, of course.

Which is why I was letting him know what's up.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
There is no little. There is only awesome.
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I don't know, I heard the cat helmet factory burned down or got demolished or something, there might be very few awesomes to go around.
 
mandiller said:
And finally any tips for a noob? I know this is quite a competitive game so I might be in a bit over my head.
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Jump into the Basic Training playlist. It's still populated with people who are completely new like yourself. Not sure how familiar you are with Halo, but a couple of things that could be useful - grenades don't activate until they hit something. Once they do, it's a three second fuse. Pay attention to equipment - a power drainer, mine or grav lift can be very effective against a vehicle. Power drains will stall any vehicle for a short period, as will a fully charged plasma pistol shot.

The sword melée on B is almost as powerful as the lunge on RT, but it has a shorter recoil time. In a Swords match, if you counter a lunge with a melée, you will be able to attack again quicker than your opponent and get the kill.

In variants of KotH like Crazy King, the hill moves once a certain time has elapsed. Pay attention to the clock and watch for occasions when it would be better to move to another likely hill point than the current one.

The laser takes five seconds to charge. It is five small beams instead of one large one, and you need to hit your target with about three of them to kill - if you are jumping or turning when you fire you might not hit with all if them.

With scoped weapons, you can click the stick to zoom, but if you hold it in you'll unzoom after letting go. This is very useful for things like the sniper that has two levels of zoom - you can click in to go one zoom level, then click and hold to temporarily zoom further.

Crouching and walking will make you disappear from the radar, but talking will make you visible again. You can also crouch-walk over active tripmines.

If you are aiming directly at a opponent's head, there will be a small red dot in the centre of your crosshairs.

There are probably a few more little things like that that I've left out, but feel free to ask anyone here about something you're not sure about.

EDIT: The Brute Shot and Spiker do slightly more melée damage than other weapons. Plasma-based weapons work best against shields, and a fully-charged plasma pistol shot will take down a full overshield to red health in one shot, which is very useful for VIP.

For flag-based games, the flag timer resets every time someone picks up the flag. If the flag has been in the open for a while, it can sometimes be the best strategy to run at it and pick it up even if you die in the process.
 
Reminder that next month Matchmaking will not be updated. Reminder that Skirmish still has no BRs, in fact its impossible to play Social BR Objective games without jumping into laggy ass 5v5+ games.

This has been your reminder for (6/27/09) that Shishka is horrible and people who moderate video game forums are not qualified to be employed at that respective company.
 
Nice pixel art! That looks sick.

Hey so, are we doin GAF customs tonight? Like, a legit one? Last weeks was a shitty excuse for one.
 
Tashi0106 said:
Nice pixel art! That looks sick.

Hey so, are we doin GAF customs tonight? Like, a legit one? Last weeks was a shitty excuse for one.
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I wont be home until around 7:30ish pm PST. So hopefully you guys are still on or something.
 
idoprime said:
I wont be home until around 7:30ish pm PST. So hopefully you guys are still on or something.
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Same, perhaps a touch later.

Two maps from Atlas I suggest for tonight that I thought looked pretty awesome. I'd like to try them out and give the creators some feedback.

Deity:

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Borderline:

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Have plans to go out later but hopefully I'll be able to play sometime this evening.

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Latest Changes:
6.07 Ghaleon's Slingshot
6.07 EazyB's Bruhaha 1.1 (updated)
5.24 Ghaleon's Elevation 2.1
5.14 Striker's Access (updated)
5.10 Vhfive's Sanctum 2.2 (updated)
5.08 DualX has a variety great infection maps in his fileshare
5.08 Ghaleon's Entrenched 1.4 (updated)
4.30 Vhfiive's Sanctum v2.1 (updated)
4.29 Butane's Chimera
4.29 DualX's Train Station (updated?)
4.28 Grimm's map Turf v3 (updated)
4.23 Ghaleon's Sandstorm 2.0

Sixthsubset's GAF map blog.

Map maker - Map(s)
Alisdair Bnet - Aspirite v2
Bladed Expert Bnet – Mage v2.2
Butane123 Bnet - Chimera, Neosho 1.2
Dax01 Bnet – Outskirts, Geminie
DeputyMoonman Bnet - Goldmine v1.5
DualX Bnet - Train Station?, Infection gametype and maps
EazyB Bnet- Brouhaha v1.1, Ber Ber Creek, Ber Ber Customs, Rise v3.1
Exfixate Bnet - Gangplank Galley
Fin Bnet - Refuge v1
FourDoor Bnet - Air Stream 0.2
Ghaleon Bnet - Elevation 2.1, Sandstorm 2.1, Entrenched 1.4, Slingshot
GM Bullfrog Bnet – Kulkukan
Grimm Fandango Bnet – Turf II v3
Havok Bnet - Agartha, Phaeton
Insaniac Bnet - Sky Perch
Metroidvania Bnet - Mountain 1.04
Merguson Bnet – Firmament v1.2
Nokyard Bnet - Grifball High, Grifball Palace
Oozer Bnet - Remnant a1.0
Silly.Mikey Bnet - So High
Spirit Bnet– Pitfall V2, Worship
Spudbud Bnet - gave up on life
Striker Bnet - Access
Vhfive Bnet - Platform, Sanctum 2.2, Flying Dutchman
Vociferous Bnet - Abaddon

Tools
Fourdoor - All default objects moved to crypt
Nokyard - Girfball High can be modified to take advantage of it's existing flat flooring in the sky bubble.
Vociferous - All objects on the ground moved aside so that they aren't in the way.
Vociferous - All default objects moved to the skybubble
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MM Sandbox Variants
Utah Mambo
Punishment v2
Vessel
Cubed
Plurality
Tundra
Tundra Swat
Vindictive
Wastelands


Highlights

Interesting:
Boarderline 6-12
Diety 8-10
Eighty Grit 6-10
The Kingdom 6-12
Solstice 2-8
Blue Abyss 2-8
Landing Pad 2-6
Archiac 2-8
Aero (CTF) (Slayer) (MLG CTF) 2-8
Cynosure 2-8
Creatrium 4-8
Artifact 6-16
Elysium 6-16
Lotus 6-12
Conduction 6-12
Sundown 4-8
Dymex 2-8
Attic 2-6


Remakes:
Tombstone
Ivory Tower
Damnation
Geminie
Boarding Action
Ascension
Prisoner
 
GhaleonEB said:
Same, perhaps a touch later.

Two maps from Atlas I suggest for tonight that I thought looked pretty awesome. I'd like to try them out and give the creators some feedback.

Deity:



Borderline:
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WOW those looks great, I'm definitely game tonight ! Haven't played with GAF in a while!
 
Customs tonight at 9PM EST?

Also so quitting out over and over until you get matched up with Bungie teams in Bungie vs the world...good or bad way to get recon? :D
 
Edit: Change of plans, free until 8 pst, so hopefully I can get some games in. Jumping on now if anyone wants to play some flag with me.

Eh, looks like I'm booked this evening. I've been updating Brouhaha and have an updated edition here. If you guys get a chance to play a 5v5 or more one flag match on it, I'd appreciate a saved film. And attacking team, make good use of the plentiful grav lifts when assaulting.

xxjuicesxx said:
Customs tonight at 9PM EST?

Also so quitting out over and over until you get matched up with Bungie teams in Bungie vs the world...good or bad way to get recon? :D
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I wouldn't be surprised if they catch that because they've said they do a quick look at one's service record before enabling recon.
 
I'm home and am in favor of customs.

I played Diety. While I played two Snipers games on it, the experience I had was not so good. Just not a good Snipers map. I guess it couldn't hurt trying actual Neutral Bomb or Multi-CTF games, though. Borderline looks unique.

I downloaded a couple maps and would be interesting for 4v4/5v5.
 
Grimm Fandango said:
Fun stuff last night. Merguson got revenge for my 3 betrayals last week:

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Later on, me and Self Induced dicked around on the Mongoose:

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i will soon return to the world of xbox but im on vacation this week. and then i have to send my xbox out. i was hoping to get the shipping label before i left but no such luck. looks like i'll be missing out on bungie day :(
 
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