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Thanks a bunch guys. I never realized the team jump thing could be used by jumping more than twice. I think I'll be able to fix that first one by altering existing geometry. As for the rockets jump, I feel that's less essential because of what it requires (rockets, an extra person, and no additional damage). I'll definitely fix it though if I can find a way.Tashi0106 said:
I'd be interested in knowing spectacular extent must an exploit be to make it a Atlas "showstopper". If something as elaborate as the rocket jump counts as a show stopper it'd be really interesting to see how many Atlas threads should be locked. If you guys get bored you should target maps from Atlas and break them any way possible, see how many threads you could shut down.
I'm glad my latest map is a roam anywhere sort of map. Still anxiously awaiting feedback on it. No idea if it's any good or not.
Yeah, from what I was able to gather in 5 minutes youtubing is the following:Butane123 said:
I think it would rediculous for forgers to have to worry about this.
Vid of butterfly jumping around H3 maps
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I love the Crookers remix video for pure insanity. Impossible not to smile while watching.EazyB said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVb_t_ao9gw
As for forging, there has to be some reasonableness test. No map with constructed walls blocking off part of the crypt would ever get approved otherwise. If you can't get out by grenade jumping or standard team jumping, the map should be fine.
i recommend "acquiring" his whole mixtape A Kid Named CudiEazyB said:
Ok so butterflying was bigger in Halo 2 because the invisible ceilings were a lot higher than they are in Halo 3. Fuckin super bouncers ruined everything. It's a lost art lol. So the only way I can think of Butterfly only exploitable maps, being exploited, would be in an FFA playlist or in a social where a team is split and 2 people coordinate to butterfly. You could have a party 2 go into a social ffa then butterfly on top of a map and just rain down death. I honestly don't think that Butterfly exploitable maps should be held from matchmaking. If you think about it, 99% of crypt based maps that don't use the natural boundaries of the map as the boundaries of the play space could be butterflied out of.
The Grenade-Rocket jump on Ber Ber Creek will, I think I can safely say, never be exploited in matchmaking. Well I won't say NEVER but very very very very slim chance.
Eazy, on top of the snipe perch, where you have blocks hanging over head is genius. When I got on the map, I immediately went there to try to get out but couldn't because we would hit our heads whenever we tried to jump. Another way I could see 2 or more people trying to get out would be jump off of each others heads in mid-air but that's a little crazy.
Also a few jumps I discovered on your map Eazy that I'm not sure you're aware of. You can jump from red base right up to rockets. You can make it on to the little ledge and then right up to rockets. Also, if you jump on rocket arch and then slide jump as you hit the top of the base block, you can get right up to sniper perch. It was possible in Halo 2 but was way more difficult because you had to land in a tree first and then jump up there.
Also, I'm going to check out as many Atlas maps as I can and try to break them. Feel free to send me maps you guys have.
And just for the lulz, we got to the top of Centrifigul, and then tried to butterfly out of the Crypt...it failed lol.
Lastly, I'm hoping we can get word from Shishka on what is a "showstopper" Grenade jumping as simply as he did at Carbine on Sanctum and what I did to get on top of the bases on Sanctum is considered showstopping but what about the Grenade-Rocket jump I did on Ber Ber Creek? Is that showstopper? What about butterflying? Is that considered showstopping? And what would be considered showstopping in terms of getting out of the boundaries of the map on a map in the sky bubble or on the middle desert layer. I think this is all critical information that needs to get out to forgers and members of Atlas.
For real lastly, about Sanctum, Vh, in the video I posted you can see that I had to jump twice to get up on the bases. Once with the help of a grenade and second because there was a little ledge sticking out allowing me to jump twice. If you could flatten that little ledge out, it wouldn't be grenade jump-able. However, I could easily get up there but jumping on someones head, jumping, have the guy under you jump and then jump off his head for what's essentially a double jump.
Edit: Wow and Shishka, you should make a mandatory guide line for thread titles. I just joined Atlas to try to find maps to break and it hurts my eyes trying to go through these titles...something like
Map Name - Foundry/Sandbox (if sandbox, crypt, sky box, middle) and maybe gametypes it's mean for.
It is torture going through that forum.
The Grenade-Rocket jump on Ber Ber Creek will, I think I can safely say, never be exploited in matchmaking. Well I won't say NEVER but very very very very slim chance.
Eazy, on top of the snipe perch, where you have blocks hanging over head is genius. When I got on the map, I immediately went there to try to get out but couldn't because we would hit our heads whenever we tried to jump. Another way I could see 2 or more people trying to get out would be jump off of each others heads in mid-air but that's a little crazy.
Also a few jumps I discovered on your map Eazy that I'm not sure you're aware of. You can jump from red base right up to rockets. You can make it on to the little ledge and then right up to rockets. Also, if you jump on rocket arch and then slide jump as you hit the top of the base block, you can get right up to sniper perch. It was possible in Halo 2 but was way more difficult because you had to land in a tree first and then jump up there.
Also, I'm going to check out as many Atlas maps as I can and try to break them. Feel free to send me maps you guys have.
And just for the lulz, we got to the top of Centrifigul, and then tried to butterfly out of the Crypt...it failed lol.
Lastly, I'm hoping we can get word from Shishka on what is a "showstopper" Grenade jumping as simply as he did at Carbine on Sanctum and what I did to get on top of the bases on Sanctum is considered showstopping but what about the Grenade-Rocket jump I did on Ber Ber Creek? Is that showstopper? What about butterflying? Is that considered showstopping? And what would be considered showstopping in terms of getting out of the boundaries of the map on a map in the sky bubble or on the middle desert layer. I think this is all critical information that needs to get out to forgers and members of Atlas.
For real lastly, about Sanctum, Vh, in the video I posted you can see that I had to jump twice to get up on the bases. Once with the help of a grenade and second because there was a little ledge sticking out allowing me to jump twice. If you could flatten that little ledge out, it wouldn't be grenade jump-able. However, I could easily get up there but jumping on someones head, jumping, have the guy under you jump and then jump off his head for what's essentially a double jump.
Edit: Wow and Shishka, you should make a mandatory guide line for thread titles. I just joined Atlas to try to find maps to break and it hurts my eyes trying to go through these titles...something like
Map Name - Foundry/Sandbox (if sandbox, crypt, sky box, middle) and maybe gametypes it's mean for.
It is torture going through that forum.
Alright Tashi, here's one for you to break: Chimera.
The two bases, separated from each other by a giant wall with entrances from the track, center building, and tunnels.
The track at the rocket spawn.
The center building from the viewpoint of one of the base entrances.
Center of the room looking down into the area under the wall between the bases.
A view from inside the wall, where the tunnels from the bases meet.
The two bases, separated from each other by a giant wall with entrances from the track, center building, and tunnels.
The track at the rocket spawn.
The center building from the viewpoint of one of the base entrances.
Center of the room looking down into the area under the wall between the bases.
A view from inside the wall, where the tunnels from the bases meet.
Ok Butane, after a little over an hour of messing around, I found 9 ways to break your map. Technically there are 10 because of the symmetry. If I didn't have brute shot, a good amount of these wouldn't be possible. The brute shot makes it easier to do. Also, the 3rd clip you see in the video, that hole appeared twice while I was playing. The first time I saw it, it puzzled me. The 2nd time though, I was ready and didn't hesitate. I don't know how difficult forging on that level is but a lot of the jumps are possible because of under hanging outside blocks and uneven walls. Also, are there any plasma grenades on the map, they would make 4 jumps I couldn't get easier to make.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eG_IO6HYes
I really do wanna play on the map, this weekend at GAF customs for sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eG_IO6HYes
I really do wanna play on the map, this weekend at GAF customs for sure.
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EazyB said:
Heard this song on the radio. Aside from Three 6 Mafia, Tupac, Eminem and alittle Ice Cube, I don't listen to rap/hip hop, but this song was pretty good.
Edit: @ Butane: That map looks pretty sweet. It has a "palace" feel to it.
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Based on the name of the song, I am 90% sure the beat samples this:EazyB said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNStVlJWy88
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Good music of sorts? That song was horrible.vhfive said:
xxjuicesxx
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Dax01 said:
You would hate that song.
I agree. But you're avatar is Sophie Ellis Bexter. I'm just thankful Dirk Kuyt doesn't make music.Dax01 said:
I had the greatest game of MLG last night. I got a +12 and 2 killing sprees. However I am still a relatively low level in the playlist.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsHalo3.aspx?gameid=1110675831&player=arnie%20lfc
Also, how good would it be if Bungie allowed us to place trees in forge? We could have all sorts of forest maps where grenades would just arbitrarily bounce everywhere and people could rush with AR's from behind the looming trunks of trees.
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Arnie said:
That sounds like what Hell is supposed to be.
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1) It's BextorArnie said:
2) Your
3) She makes fantastic music. Her best song is definitely "Today the Sun's on Us" which is so good.
It really does. But maybe a few Brute Shots sprinkled around might help.xxjuicesxx said:
Honestly I don't have too much problem with particular songs, it's her irritating voice that just puts me off. Plus she's too skinny, she looks like an alien. An alien with a damn irritating voice who sings about murder on the dance floor.Dax01 said:
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Her voice is anything but irritating.Arnie said:
Love how people like to over-exaggerate. It doesn't accomplish anything.
It's an opinion, so you're entitled to your own. I'm not trying to demolish her internet persona if that's what you were thinking, I was merely stating my opinion about her figure which I saw on television whilst watching "Never mind the Buzzcocks".Dax01 said:
Lets get off the subject of Sophie Ellis Bextor.
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Go watch American Idol.Dax01 said:
Ha, wow. I just loaded up the thread and for whatever reason it took my to halfway through when people were talking about Legendary just coming out and there was someone's warning that we needed a new thread otherwise this one wouldn't get archived.
Guess that all went smoothly :lol
Guess that all went smoothly :lol
I use Amazon. 99 cents per song and zero DRM. The downloader they have you use also neatly throws the songs you purchase into iTunes for you.EazyB said:
Yep, once this thread falls off the last Gaming Discussion page it'll disappear into the ether. I hope someone figures out some way to save it at some point.Willeth said:
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That show sucks.backflip10019 said:
Actually it's Sophie Ellis-Bextor.Arnie said:
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Tashi0106 said:
Map does look fun. Only a couple more days
And keep up the good work, Tashi. You're saving a lot of time and heartache.
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OuterWorldVoice said:
:lol When did you get a title!
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GM Bullfrog said:
HAS to be from the Coachella micropenis thread :lol :lol :lol
Butane123 said:
Yea I figured it wasn't supposed to be there. It was freaking me out when appeared and disappeared for the first time. I was like, where the fuck did the hole go?!?! lol
It was a lot of fun trying to break that map. At first, it was tough and I had to get really creative, as you can see with the warthog. Then I just started brute shotting everywhere.
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EazyB said:
So basically you have to guard against two or more individuals that team up and are able to fly??
no easy task
Damn. That's a lot of maps that should be removed from matchmaking. All those map creators should be banned from Atlas as well.EazyB said:
Dax01 said:
A friendly Halo 3 thread reminder: The opinions of Dax do not reflect the majority of those in this thread.
Learn to appreciate good music in all genres, Dax.
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*raises hand*Blueblur1 said:
vhfive said:
*cough*
-Martin O'Donnell
-Christopher Franke (Babylon 5)
-Christopher Tin (Baba Yetu)
-Hans Zimmer and Lisa Gerrard (Gladiator)
-"Sector Sweep" (Half-Life 2 Episode 2)
-Jack Wall & Sam Hulick (Mass Effect)
-John Williams
-Jerry Goldsmith
-Songs from SMG
-Gary Schyman (BioShock)
-Michael Nyman (Gattaca)
-Dennis McCarthy (Deep Space Nine)
*cough*
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I'm sorry, but I can't learn to appreciate shitty genres such as Rap and Hip Hop.Trasher said:
xxjuicesxx
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Dax01 said:
That just means you don't like that genre, it doesn't mean the genre itself is shitty.
But seriously, if you can't find songs you like in the entire Rap and Hip Hop genre there is probably something wrong with you as a person.
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