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Nutter said:
Now now, why the hostility, im only telling the truth. ;)

If KyleJ can get his 50 (eventually he got it), im sure you can too <3 Trasher
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Seriously though, I am 100% sure that me, Eazy, Domino, Thermite, etc could all get 50s if we put the time in to it. It would just take a long time, and it would not be worth it. Especially with all the lag issues and cheaters. It just wouldn't be any fun. I came close in both doubles and team slayer (48s in each and who knows how close I was to 49 because I played with both Blood and Ram and saw them each go from a much lower rank than me and make it to 50 lol), but it was fucking ridiculous how many times I would lose games because of boosters and games that just were unplayable because of the latency. Doubles was the only playlist I actually really tried to get it in because that was my greatest chance at having a somewhat decent internet connection. Whenever I tried doing team slayer with my friends (Nutter, Ram, Blood, etc) it was just too laggy. And that is really too bad because 4v4 team slayer is my favorite way of playing Halo. Now we hardly ever enter into that playlist anymore because it just isn't fun. Maybe our locations in the country have something to do with it. Who knows. I definitely don't remember Halo 2 having that issue though. I feel that in Halo 2 there wasn't quite the host advantage that we see today in Halo 3. What do we blame for this; the netcode?

Here's hoping that the Halo 4 multiplayer is a much better experience, and that it also sticks to the bread and butter of Halo multiplayer: 4v4 gametypes.
 
If you guys are really wanting to get your fifties, I wouldn't mind giving you some tips later tonight.

You know how to drive a Warthog, right? That's important.

And, obviously, bring your AR (this is if you're serious about wanting to ascend to the next level).
 
Cocopjojo said:
If you guys are really wanting to get your fifties, I wouldn't mind giving you some tips later tonight.

You know how to drive a Warthog, right? That's important.

And, obviously, bring your AR (this is if you're serious about wanting to ascend to the next level).
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Is there an AR only playlist? All these other weapons I just can't use but the AR I'm a dead on 30shot.
 
I kind of miss AR only starts. The difference between 4 and 5 connection bars is pretty significant when dealing with BRs, and I tend to only get 4 bars.
 
LunaticPuma said:
I kind of miss AR only starts. The difference between 4 and 5 connection bars is pretty significant when dealing with BRs, and I tend to only get 4 bars.
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Ranked Playlist
Team Slayer
* Team Slayer (81.1%) - First team to 50 kills wins. 12 minute match time limit.
* Team BRs (18.9%) - First team to 50 kills wins. Players spawn with Battle Rifles and Assault Rifle secondary weapons. 12 minute match time limit.
There's nothing to miss about AR only starts. They're still there... over 80% of the time, is that not enough for you people?
 
EazyB said:
Ranked Playlist
Team Slayer
* Team Slayer (81.1%) - First team to 50 kills wins. 12 minute match time limit.
* Team BRs (18.9%) - First team to 50 kills wins. Players spawn with Battle Rifles and Assault Rifle secondary weapons. 12 minute match time limit.
There's nothing to miss about AR only starts. They're still there... over 80% of the time, is that not enough for you people?
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It doesn't matter what those percentages are. Nearly all TS games I've been in where it is AR starts first get vetoed for BRs. If it starts off with BRs, it doesn't get vetoed.

Though I do argree that certain maps need BR starts such as Valhalla or Standoff.
 
Trasher said:
Seriously though, I am 100% sure that me, Eazy, Domino, Thermite, etc could all get 50s if we put the time in to it. It would just take a long time, and it would not be worth it. Especially with all the lag issues and cheaters. It just wouldn't be any fun. I came close in both doubles and team slayer (48s in each and who knows how close I was to 49 because I played with both Blood and Ram and saw them each go from a much lower rank than me and make it to 50 lol), but it was fucking ridiculous how many times I would lose games because of boosters and games that just were unplayable because of the latency. Doubles was the only playlist I actually really tried to get it in because that was my greatest chance at having a somewhat decent internet connection. Whenever I tried doing team slayer with my friends (Nutter, Ram, Blood, etc) it was just too laggy. And that is really too bad because 4v4 team slayer is my favorite way of playing Halo. Now we hardly ever enter into that playlist anymore because it just isn't fun. Maybe our locations in the country have something to do with it. Who knows. I definitely don't remember Halo 2 having that issue though. I feel that in Halo 2 there wasn't quite the host advantage that we see today in Halo 3. What do we blame for this; the netcode?

Here's hoping that the Halo 4 multiplayer is a much better experience, and that it also sticks to the bread and butter of Halo multiplayer: 4v4 gametypes.
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Yeah, I agree fully, Trasher. I'm 100% certain that given a new account that I only play with friends, I could pull a 50 no problem. Hell, I crap on most 50s that I play on a regular basis (and even went +15 in a game of 3v4 BRs on Orbital yesterday against all 50s). I played with you last night and you were pretty damn good, too. I'm sure that you could get one too if you dedicated enough time for it. It's fucking laughable how bad the system is.
xxjuicesxx said:
I'd have to be AlwaysEpic to get my 50, none of this Sometimes shit.
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Just be IStealOverkills. Would be waaaaay easier.
 
fuck 50 i can't get to 45
i got to 43 in lw when i first started playing halo 3 then dropped immediately to 42 where i stayed. i think im better than i was before but when i went into lw recently i remembered why ffa sucks and have no desire to go back. in ts i seem to be stuck at 40 for some reason. i go positive most games but playing with randoms i go no where.
 
I managed to get my 50 by playing like 2 weeks every night. Long win streaks mean nothing either, I had to lose a game at 49, and then win 2 in a row to go up.
 
Trasher said:
Seriously though, I am 100% sure that me, Eazy, Domino, Thermite, etc could all get 50s if we put the time in to it. It would just take a long time, and it would not be worth it. Especially with all the lag issues and cheaters. It just wouldn't be any fun. I came close in both doubles and team slayer (48s in each and who knows how close I was to 49 because I played with both Blood and Ram and saw them each go from a much lower rank than me and make it to 50 lol), but it was fucking ridiculous how many times I would lose games because of boosters and games that just were unplayable because of the latency. Doubles was the only playlist I actually really tried to get it in because that was my greatest chance at having a somewhat decent internet connection. Whenever I tried doing team slayer with my friends (Nutter, Ram, Blood, etc) it was just too laggy. And that is really too bad because 4v4 team slayer is my favorite way of playing Halo. Now we hardly ever enter into that playlist anymore because it just isn't fun. Maybe our locations in the country have something to do with it. Who knows. I definitely don't remember Halo 2 having that issue though. I feel that in Halo 2 there wasn't quite the host advantage that we see today in Halo 3. What do we blame for this; the netcode?

Here's hoping that the Halo 4 multiplayer is a much better experience, and that it also sticks to the bread and butter of Halo multiplayer: 4v4 gametypes.
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It can happen, dude. Just need to dedicate a few days out of the week to grind TS, SWAT, or whatever playlist you're really high in. Even if you are losing a few games, just keep playing.

I got my 48 back in SWAT and am willing to play it again if we get a party going, or TS (need my 47 back in there after that horrible night :P)
 
GM Bullfrog said:
Haven't given an update to the map progress in a while. I made some progress tonight. I still need to rework the High Side and then mirror everything to the red side. I will give another update tomorrow. Also, I finally named it Avenged.
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I had a couple good ideas this morning on how to finish up my map. Hopefully it will be playtest worthy early next week sometime.
 
the most difficult thing to do in halo matchmaking is getting a 50 in mlg while running with a team of 4.

i intentionally avoid ranking up to a 50 whenever im a 49 because i love it when people talk trash because i "cant get a 50"
 
sixthsubset said:
the most difficult thing to do in halo matchmaking is getting a 50 in mlg while running with a team of 4.

i intentionally avoid ranking up to a 50 whenever im a 49 because i love it when people talk trash because i "cant get a 50"
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Is that because you are probably going to get matched against another team of 4 that more often than not knows what it is doing too?
 
Domino Theory said:
I got my 48 back in SWAT and am willing to play it again if we get a party going, or TS (need my 47 back in there after that horrible night :P)
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That was actually one of the funnest nights of Halo I've had; especially in TS.

Many lolz were had.
And I still have mah aweshumm 47!

Edit: Spring BREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK!
 
GM Bullfrog said:
Let me know how they work out. I like to have my sound up pretty loud (Onkyo 7.1 system) to aide in situational awareness ... but I usually get feedback through the mic and people complain.
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Will do, msg me what receiver you have please? I was thinking of buying an Onkyo 7.1 the umm 706b I believe its called.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Thought I'd do a quick update on my re-build progress.

In some ways I'm going more slowly because I'm trying to iron out every little surface wrinkle and gap, which can be madding since little nooks and bumps seem to crop up everywhere, regardless of how meticulously I place stuff. But I'm finding ways to be much more effecient at getting the main structures down.

I'm making some small improvements along the way, but keeping essentially the same layout. Only major design change is I'm going to add a tunnel under the central grav lift, which is going to be a design challenge. Overall I think I crossed the 50% completion point tonight. Should hopefully finish up Friday or Saturday night. Yay.
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The map looks great! Looks like you've gotten the hang of Forge pretty quickly. Did you ever Forge stuff in Foundry?

I'm really digging the look of the bases there. I was planning on something similar using those slit walls so it would provide a way to look in/out of the base but would still restrict you from running out that way with the flag.

Your progress pics this week inspired me to keep building although I am sure my structures have not been laid out as neatly as yours. Here is a quick preview shot of my first ever Forge map with a name yet to be determined. It's a symmetrical map with 2 tunnels that connect the 2 bases together. I tried to follow the KISS plan but even with what I consider to be a basic layout, it is taking me a long time to put it all together. That plus the fact that I was already hitting the $ budget limit on my initial geometry build made me change my plans up.

Overview shot of the map after I finished merging the floor and corners on the left side base.
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One of the tunnels connecting the 2 bases together. The tunnel brings you right inside the base via ramps where the walls are yet to be built.
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I think this map is about 40% done with the following to do list still:

1. Finish merging the base floor on the right side base.
2. Figure out how to create walls for the base without hitting the $ budget
3. See if there will be enough $ left to build the exposed bridge in the middle (but I doubt it).
4. Put up little handicap bumper rails on the side of the base so people don't complain about easily falling off the map.
5. Figure out where to place blocks to use for cover.
6. Learn how to place spawn points (anyone have a link on a tutorial on how to place spawn points and how to set spawn areas?)

I read some writeups about how elevation changes makes a huge difference in map design so I am hoping that I can figure out how to place the bridge in there so level 1 would be the tunnels, level 2 would be the base floor, level 3 would be the bridge and level 4 would be the top of the bases. Any tips and pointers at this point would be greatly appreciated (especially on how to build up walls without taking too much floor space and budget.
 
It looks like in your open tunnels section you have walls and blocks where you could just have blocks to keep your budget down. That looks pretty simple to be running out of budget already. I bet there is some stuff you can delete too to get budget back, but that is only an assumption since I can't see the whole map.
 
The ranking system being nonsense makes me wonder why they didn't keep the Halo 2 system? What was wrong with it? Did MS force them to adopt Trueskill?

Sometimes, keeping things basic is better than complicating them.
 
GM Bullfrog said:
It looks like in your open tunnels section you have walls and blocks where you could just have blocks to keep your budget down. That looks pretty simple to be running out of budget already. I bet there is some stuff you can delete too to get budget back, but that is only an assumption since I can't see the whole map.
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Thanks for the feedback. The open sections of the tunnel consists of the double block for the outside walkway which also doubles as the outer wall for the tunnel, the corner wall piece for the floor and initially the inner wall piece, and at the end I added the inner blocks so that there is an inner walkway. I liked the idea of being able to jump down on the people in the tunnels from both sides.

I was ok with budget until I started messing around with the geometry to try to build up the walls of the base. Maybe I'll just have to reduce the size of the inside of the base.

Keep in mind I still have most of the default objects stacked away on the side thanks to Voc which I had planned to help create the bases. If I delete those, maybe I can get enough $ back to build out the items that I want.

Edit: Revelation, for the open tunnle I could just delete the 5 pieces of corner walls and replace it with 2 long walls and 1 short wall since I do have the inner blocks to use as the inner blocks now. That would give me back 4 pieces and $20 back to the budget. Thanks!
 
FourDoor said:
Keep in mind I still have most of the default objects stacked away on the side thanks to Voc which I had planned to help create the bases. If I delete those, maybe I can get enough $ back to build out the items that I want.
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, there is a ton of budget right there.
 
vhfive said:
fuck 50 i can't get to 45
i got to 43 in lw when i first started playing halo 3 then dropped immediately to 42 where i stayed. i think im better than i was before but when i went into lw recently i remembered why ffa sucks and have no desire to go back. in ts i seem to be stuck at 40 for some reason. i go positive most games but playing with randoms i go no where.
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Can't seem to get past a 42 myself.
 
Trasher said:
It's true though. =/

Less dual-wielding too.
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"But that's the way I enjoy the game so just because you don't enjoy the game that way doesn't mean I can't enjoy the game my way because it's just that; my way, not necessarily yours but if you want it can be your way too if you want because I'm so open to other people's opinions unlike everyone else who only wants BR starts which makes it impossible to play my way and has map movement."
 
EazyB said:
"But that's the way I enjoy the game so just because you don't enjoy the game that way doesn't mean I can't enjoy the game my way because it's just that; my way, not necessarily yours but if you want it can be your way too if you want because I'm so open to other people's opinions unlike everyone else who only wants BR starts which makes it impossible to play my way and has map movement."
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On that note, my map is designed for BR starts.
 
EazyB said:
"But that's the way I enjoy the game so just because you don't enjoy the game that way doesn't mean I can't enjoy the game my way because it's just that; my way, not necessarily yours but if you want it can be your way too if you want because I'm so open to other people's opinions unlike everyone else who only wants BR starts which makes it impossible to play my way and has map movement."
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:lol
 
Trasher said:
It's true though. =/

Less dual-wielding too.
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The weapon that I have the most kills with is the BR, though. My highest level is a 41 in Team Doubles, however.

EazyB said:
"But that's the way I enjoy the game so just because you don't enjoy the game that way doesn't mean I can't enjoy the game my way because it's just that; my way, not necessarily yours but if you want it can be your way too if you want because I'm so open to other people's opinions unlike everyone else who only wants BR starts which makes it impossible to play my way and has map movement."
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Your immaturity is showing.

Even though I never say any of that, besides playing with an AR is a way I can enjoy the game. *shrugs*
 
Dax01 said:
Even though I never say any of that, besides playing with an AR is a way I can enjoy the game. *shrugs*
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Also, 3 ball on Blackout is horrible times. People spawning behind you every second is no fun. The map is a bit small for 12 people I think.
 
well you don't know how to play halo and you post at neogaf dax I think it's time to apply to bungie you have all the qualifications they're looking for
 
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