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[broony]

Eurogamer have an interview with Ske7ch and Luke on Recon. Fair amount of information:

Not a full campaign and hope to be priced as such.
Interesting twist on gameplay but not a classic stealth game
"Suprise" possibly before release for Halo 3 owners (beta???)

http://www.eurogamer.net

 

[Mr Jared]

I was bored tonight and so I made a file set for Overdriftacular 2.0, if any of you folks were still interested.

http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=32931360

You know, I remember hating a lot of the maps in Halo 3 at first, but now I find that there are very few that I'm willing to veto based on the map alone. Off the top of my head, the only maps I try to avoid are Isolation, Standoff and Epitaph. Pretty much everything else I can cope with.

 

[Brainboy]

Joy-Stiq has an article up about H3: Recon with some interesting details. Some quotes:

"As an ODST, compared to playing as in invulnerable Spartan, you are going to have to sort of pick and choose your encounters a little bit differently."

In order to develop Recon, Bungie used a "small agile team" made up of a "bunch of elders" who started the Halo: Combat Evolved franchise some seven years ago.

When asked if the mysterious "superintendent" spotted in all the teases leading up to the game's announcement would play a sort of Cortana-esque role and serve as a guide (note the messages displayed on the screens at the end of the below trailer), Jerrard told us "I think your observations seem pretty spot on. It certainly seems like there's a guiding hand of some sort there."

"This is definitely a subset of [Halo 3]," Jerrard explains. "I think this is going to be a good value and a lot of content but we're not viewing this as sort of a full game release in the sense of Halo 3."

"This is going to be a pretty huge file. The amount of content alone is probably bigger than anything that's ever been released as a DLC."

This is "definitely not a new franchise" they say. It's "an exclamation point" on the end of the Halo trilogy while the rest of the team is hard at work on something that is, it would seem, not a part of the Halo trilogy.

 

[Trasher]

You know, I remember hating a lot of the maps in Halo 3 at first, but now I find that there are very few that I'm willing to veto based on the map alone. Off the top of my head, the only maps I try to avoid are Isolation, Standoff and Epitaph. Pretty much everything else I can cope with.

Coping makes me sadface.

 

[MIMIC]

I've been on some really huge streaks recently. 5-game losing streak turns into a 10-game winning streak and turns into a 4-game losing streak.

And I played SWAT for the first time. 'Twas....interesting. Reminds me of Team Snipers....but with much larger reticles.

 

[broony]

moar

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/oct/10/games-events

 

[duk]

moar

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/oct/10/games-events

i can't wait, i <3 bungie so much

 

[Striker]

You can argue that Halo 3's map collection is the worst of trilogy. Also, some of the worst gametypes as well. It's amazing what a few tweaks can do, but Bungie hasn't done it or won't do it. I praise them for dishing out maps still, but I don't think that the collection of maps right now give enough variety.

Completely agree, but you say it so much you're credited for 'whining'.

As for the maps... Halo 2 still has the best 4 vs 4, and larger scale battle maps.

No use asking for remakes, because quite frankly, Blackout isn't as fun to play as Lockout, and while Avalanche is a good map, Sidewinder was a huge case of entertainment (in my opinion as I played many over LANs).

Halo 3 still has maps I thoroughly enjoy (Guardian, Standoff to a degree, Valhalla, Last Resort).

 

[carbonbased]

I love it how only the people in this thread seem to have a problem with them.:lol I don't know, maybe it's just you guys.

as an outsider: they're obnoxious, and my mouse inches closer to the ignore button with each subsequent shitty loop.

 

[EazyB]

As for the maps... Halo 2 still has the best 4 vs 4, and larger scale battle maps.

Couldn't be more wrong. Halo 2's BTB was decent at best whereas it plays like sex in Halo 3.

Nostalgia has some of you guys by the balls.

as an outsider: they're obnoxious, and my mouse inches closer to the ignore button with each subsequent shitty loop.

:lol

 

[Shake Appeal]

I don't think there can be much debate that maps like Standoff, Valhalla, and Avalanche outclass Halo 2's BTB offerings.

But I also don't think there can be much debate that maps like Lockout, Midship, Ivory Tower, Turf, and Sanctuary outclass Halo 3's small map offerings.

 

[BladedExpert]

I don't think there can be much debate that maps like Standoff, Valhalla, and Avalanche outclass Halo 2's BTB offerings.

But I also don't think there can be much debate that maps like Lockout, Midship, Ivory Tower, Turf, and Sanctuary outclass Halo 3's small map offerings.

There isn't a truer word to be said on the matter.

I still enjoy the small-mid sized maps in H3 but its still not up to H2 standards.

 

[Kuroyume]

The Eurogamer interview is really good. Yeah, the dudes bite their lips a lot but there is some worthwile info in there. I can't believe they managed to get three pages of dialogue from them. I was expecting the usual 2-3 sentences from Bungie. That video interview was also great.

- I have a hard time believing that could possibly be a woman under that helmet. Those are some pretty thick fingers.

- Bring back night vision. I want heavy weather effects. I want rain. I want snow. SERIOUSLY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy8JBAWhFeM

Two Betrayals is my favorite level in the game. I love the outdoor parts of this level because of the mood. The combination of darkness, falling snow, and Marty's music made it perfect.

- I'm annoyed about the next map pack's release date, but it's nice to have an idea of when it coming. It's vague, but at least now I can go pick up an XBLA game without worrying about not having points available for the maps.

- Halo 3 engine? Well, I hope you dudes tweak the visuals a bit.

 

[deftangel]

2 separate map packs.

I wonder if mythic is not all 6 rumored maps, but instead a typical 3 map-pack release and then the other 3 release with H3R.

Doesn't the skulls Vidmaster achievement explicitly say it's for finding all of the skulls on ALL of the Mythic maps? That would leave me to believe it's still 6.

And probably 1200 points to boot :/

 

[GM Bullfrog]

Doesn't the skulls Vidmaster achievement explicitly say it's for finding all of the skulls on ALL of the Mythic maps? That would leave me to believe it's still 6.

And probably 1200 points to boot :/

That is a good point.

 

[Chinner]

I don't mind about the release date of the map pack, cause even though I may be a huge fan of Halo, I don't play it exclusively. In November I'll probably be playing through 4 or 5 games so I don't mind really.

 

[Louis Wu]

A number of the interviews listed in this newspost have already been posted here - but a few haven't.

http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=24166

Also:

how about achievements like, win 5 matches on valhala, the pit, etc...

Not bad - not extensive enough to promote grinding

win 5 matches in a row.

This is good

complete 50 games in a row without quitting.

This would cause all those with bad connections to bitch.

have 5 opponents "prefer this player" after a match

I don't think ANYONE would get this legitimately; everyone would just have their friends do it. (Even adding a 'no friends' requirement wouldn't solve the problem; you can easily remove someone, then readd them after they prefer you.)

play a custom match on a forged map.

Uh... now we're into the "turn on your Xbox 3 times" difficulty level.

successfully "party up" 10 times in matchmaking with randoms.

I like this one a lot.

 

[Falagard]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/oct/10/games-events

I wonder how hard it was for Luke not to crack a penis joke when the female interviewer said:

"You guys have a longevity which is really quite.... impressive"

 

[GM Bullfrog]

A number of the interviews listed in this newspost have already been posted here - but a few haven't.

http://halo.bungie.org/news.html?item=24166

Thanks for that info.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2008/oct/10/games-events

I wonder how hard it was for Luke not to crack a penis joke when the female interviewer said:

"You guys have a longevity which is really quite.... impressive"

:lol

 

[Falagard]

Also, in case you guys missed it, that video interview is pretty good.

Luke says, while glancing at Brian (like am I allowed to say this?)

"The the multiplayer elements are forward compatible with Halo 3"

I'm thinking that Halo 3 : Recon will have new exclusive maps, but include all the multiplayer maps from Halo 3 and/or possibly allows you to export the exclusive maps ala Rockband so you can pop in either disk to play multiplayer.

 

[The Librarian]

as an outsider: they're obnoxious, and my mouse inches closer to the ignore button with each subsequent shitty loop.

Whatever. I've never received a single complaint about them in PoliGAF; it's just the people here.

You're a trekkie? For shame.

eww Star Trek.... plz go back to your old awesome avatars.

Holy shit; I can't win.:lol What do you guys think is better? Star Wars? That's laughable at best; the character in my avatar is better than any of the characters found in any of the Star Wars movies, games, or books. Next thing you'll be doing is making fun of me for being a fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey, or you'll think Star Wars is better than that film lol). Jesus Christ, lay off.

On topic, I remember MIMIC complaining about there being way too many sniper-starting games in Social Slayer... he's right.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

LOL at Standoff TS. What the fuck are you thinking Bungie?!

 

[backflip10019]

LOL at Standoff TS. What the fuck are you thinking Bungie?!

I played a few games of DLC FFA last night and this popped up probably 3 out of 5 games that I played. 8 out ot 8 vetoes every time.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

At least the mythic map pack is separate and will be out early next year.

 

[sc0la]

At least the mythic map pack is separate and will be out early next year.

is this confirmed now? I haven't been able to keep up to well the last couple of days

 

[CrazedArabMan]

It was stated near the beginning of the guardian.co.uk interview and it was in the IGN interview I believe near the bottom.

 

[sc0la]

Cool. ty

 

[Wizman23]

Some of the info from the interviews scares me quite a bit. First off it sounds like Recon has only been in developement for a few months with a small team. Halo 2 and Halo 3 both took 3 years to complete with huge teams. Also Brian stating that Recon is not a full campaign doesnt sound too reassuring considering how short Halo 3 was. As far as maps are concerned are we just getting the maps on disc that we will already have purchased (Mythic) or are they making new ones for the launch of the game?

 

[HugBasket]

Whatever. I've never received a single complaint about them in PoliGAF; it's just the people here.





Holy shit; I can't win.:lol What do you guys think is better? Star Wars? That's laughable at best; the character in my avatar is better than any of the characters found in any of the Star Wars movies, games, or books. Next thing you'll be doing is making fun of me for being a fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey, or you'll think Star Wars is better than that film lol). Jesus Christ, lay off.

On topic, I remember MIMIC complaining about there being way too many sniper-starting games in Social Slayer... he's right.

Avatars are for people who want to be recognized on the internet.

You cool kids and your avatars *scoff*

 

[Blueblur1]

Am I going to get the Recon armor? "You might, you might not," says Jarrard. Cagey. But he also pointed out that 1) the Recon armor wouldn't be so special if everyone got it, and 2) maybe that armor won't be such a big deal by this time next year, anyway. Hmm.

Source

New armor permuation(s) almost confirmed.

 

[The Librarian]

Avatars are for people who want to be recognized on the internet.

You cool kids and your avatars *scoff*

:lol Haven't you used an avatar every now and then?

Bungle, I can understand how you want to leave Snowbound as an option in matchmaking, but please just take it out, Boundless is truly the better version.

Source

New armor permuation(s) almost confirmed.

If new armor comes, it will probably be the "award" for getting all of the vidmaster achievements. Cool.

Edit:

Your only choices for Sci-Fi are Firefly or Battlestar Galactica. Maybe Halo if you're really dedicated. Fail.

:lol
A lot of people on this forum would disagree. Firefly had a lot of potential, but it only lasted for 14 episodes, and the last five or so were pretty mediocre. Battlestar Galactica is good, but at times is overly dramatic and I don't like the way some of the characters have ended up (i.e, Starbuck). Plus most of the people who write for BSG are the same writers from STAR TREK: Deep Space Nine.

So Babylon 5 isn't a choice for good sci-fi? lulz. Halo is better? Even bigger lulz.

 

[Falagard]

What do you guys think is better? Star Wars? Next thing you'll be doing is making fun of me for being a fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey, or you'll think Star Wars is better than that film

Your only choices for Sci-Fi are Firefly or Battlestar Galactica. Maybe Halo if you're really dedicated. Fail.

 

[Trasher]

"I would think of it as our Frozen Throne," Luke Smith told us, pointing to Warcraft III's expansion as the best comparison.

I like this quote concerning Halo 3: Recon.

 

[HugBasket]

:lol Haven't you used an avatar every now and then?

Nope, never.

 

[Trasher]

Nope, never.

So you are gay?

 

[Blueblur1]

Couldn't be more wrong. Halo 2's BTB was decent at best whereas it plays like sex in Halo 3.

Nostalgia has some of you guys by the balls.


:lol

I don't think there can be much debate that maps like Standoff, Valhalla, and Avalanche outclass Halo 2's BTB offerings.

But I also don't think there can be much debate that maps like Lockout, Midship, Ivory Tower, Turf, and Sanctuary outclass Halo 3's small map offerings.

All subjective by the way.

 

[Chinner]

Your only choices for Sci-Fi are Firefly or Battlestar Galactica. Maybe Halo if you're really dedicated. Fail.

Mass Effect.

 

[HugBasket]

So you are gay?

No, I'm HugBasket.

 

[deftangel]

"Complete 50 games in a row without quitting"

This would cause all those with bad connections to bitch.

Not really, the game would know if the player actively went to the pause menu and selected "Quit" versus network conditions dropping the player. As long as there was a fair tolerance in there it would work and even those determined who be BOTHERED to unplug their Internet to quit out the handful of times they were allowed would still have to play 40 odd games without doing so.

There does need to be more done about the rampant quitting I feel...I've barely had one fun game in DLC BTB yet and I'm less bothered by the achievements, the ones I have left will be ones I'll be able to chance upon in time.

 

[GM Bullfrog]

I played a few games of DLC FFA last night and this popped up probably 3 out of 5 games that I played. 8 out ot 8 vetoes every time.

I played one game of DLC FFA on Standoff ... we got it as a result of vetoeing another option IIRC. I can easily say, after that match, I am not a fan of FFA on that map.

Edit: And add to the fact that Warthogs are on the map, people in the same party would get in them and run around the map. Not fun at all.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

So when are we seeing the H2 Dbl EXP weekend, where we see some of the best H2 Foundry Forge maps made?

Midship, Warlock, Sanctuary, Turf, Ivory Tower, Lockout, Elongation, so forth and whatnots.

4v4 slayer

 

[EazyB]

All subjective by the way.

Your opinion that saying Halo 2 BTB < Halo 3 BTB is subjective is, by the way, subjective.

 

[GM Bullfrog]

So when are we seeing the H2 Dbl EXP weekend, where we see some of the best H2 Foundry Forge maps made?

Midship, Warlock, Sanctuary, Turf, Ivory Tower, Lockout, Elongation, so forth and whatnots.

4v4 slayer

I think that might be pretty cool. I just worry about the inherent horrible spawns on those forged maps. And then how many of the decent remakes were made without the money glitch since Bungie has said they won't put those into MM?

 

[Mr Vociferous]

Your opinion that saying Halo 2 BTB < Halo 3 BTB is subjective is, by the way, subjective.

You blew my mind. Even your opinion that his last statement was subjective when he said his opinion was subjectve is, in fact also subjective. =-o

I really think the homing rocket in Halo 2 (among other things) prevented me from enjoying and playing any of the large maps outside of Headlong. Halo 3 has presented the exact opposite, hugely popular and accessible large-scale maps, but at the cost of really great small-to-midsize ones. In addition to Assembly which is brilliant on its own, I hope we see a few more Mythic maps which can fill the void left by...

Midship, Warlock, Sanctuary, Turf, Ivory Tower, Lockout, Elongation, so forth and whatnots.

I bet you that we're going to see a lot of interesting remakes of these very maps using the presumably forge-heavy Sandbox. Barring Midship of course...

...which everyone knows is being remade by Bungie themselves as Assembly. ;-)

 

[GM Bullfrog]

I bet you that we're going to see a lot of interesting remakes of these very maps using the presumably forge-heavy Sandbox.

I haven't even really thought about that. That will be so WIN!

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Your opinion that saying Halo 2 BTB < Halo 3 BTB is subjective is, by the way, subjective.

So deep, like the iceberg that sank the titanic you also ruin things.

 

[Blueblur1]

So deep, like the iceberg that sank the titanic you also ruin things.

:lol

 

[Sai-kun]

Your only choices for Sci-Fi are Battlestar Galactica or Battlestar Galactica. Maybe Battlestar Galactica if you're really dedicated. Fail.

Fixed.

 

[Trasher]

No, I'm HugBasket.

 

[The Librarian]

Fixed.

:lol The avatar change makes this perfect.

Mass Effect.

Generally, videogame science-fiction stories aren't that great (shitty, event) compared to what's found in movies, books, and TV shows. No offense to Halo, Mass Effect, Half-Life, or BioShock -- all fantastic stories, but pale in comparison to what else that can be found.

On the subject of Halo 3 BTB vs Halo 2's, I for one am grateful that the "fire and forget" rocket is gone. Gameplay wise, Halo 3's BTB is better than Halo 2's, and I enjoy Avalanche and Valhalla more so than any BTB map found in Halo 2.

Plus, Halo 3 has the CHOPPEH.