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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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urk said:
I remember something like that. Probally bullshit. =\
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
DancingJesus said:
A few? sandwichLAWL
xxjuicesxx
Member
urk said:
How would that work? You go on send a party invite to a friend and if you were in the ban pool it would have to either let you in their party...meaning you could play with mixed bad kids and good kids. Or it would not let you in the party and then by deduction you'd KNOW you are in the bad kid pool and get a new account?
Sounds like a policy that would never be given serious thought.
Quitting aside (which should definitely be punished, :lol at picture above), it seems almost like semantics that Bungie is (apparently) banning people farming achievements by playing with large numbers of guests, but how is getting 8 friends with their own accounts and doing it really any different? The only difference is getting EXP, but accruing EXP doesn't really amount to anything practical or affect your skill rank or who you play against. Negatively boosting EXP is obviously bad since you can only get that by quitting, which hurts your team's chances to win, at least in team games.
In either case, I have no idea what Bungie thought was going to happen when they created the oddball and splatter spree achievements. They could have at least put up 3 Ball as the weekend playlist or something. Although at least this time they didn't limit them to Lone Wolves achievable only, Jesus Christ that was retarded.
Also fix Heavies, it's fun but totally broken with lasers thx. And where the fuck have shake and urk been
In either case, I have no idea what Bungie thought was going to happen when they created the oddball and splatter spree achievements. They could have at least put up 3 Ball as the weekend playlist or something. Although at least this time they didn't limit them to Lone Wolves achievable only, Jesus Christ that was retarded.
Also fix Heavies, it's fun but totally broken with lasers thx. And where the fuck have shake and urk been
DancingJesus
Banned
Domino Theory said:
As I said, if it would of gave me oddball on my first try I wouldn't of done that. It was in an unranked playlist, I wasn't glitching, I wasn't boosting, all I did was quit. Noone else in the party was penalized except me. I don't think its worthy of being banned forever from EXP, I'll take the two weeks and be done with it. You don't have to be a dick about it.
It's like adding achievements you cant get. It's obvious the oddball percentages are messed up because as you saw, I did over 20 games ( vetoing every one ) and did not obtain oddball once. Now if I could do it again, I wouldn't of quit, but whatever thats the past.SailorDaravon said:
I'm done defending my position. This whole thing is stupid.
xxjuicesxx
Member
I thought this was America!
We can't QUIT from internet games anymore? quitting is always an option. EXP is a stupid system Bungie added to promote no quitting. Its aesthetic and cheesy and no one gives a fuck about EXP. If you want a certain game type you should be allowed to quit until you get it.
We can't QUIT from internet games anymore? quitting is always an option. EXP is a stupid system Bungie added to promote no quitting. Its aesthetic and cheesy and no one gives a fuck about EXP. If you want a certain game type you should be allowed to quit until you get it.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
DancingJesus said:
:lol
LAUGHTREY said:
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Not exactly being a dick, you just got yours and I'm pointing out to you why you could've been banned. You got more -XP penalities in less than 24hrs than Metroid has had in his entire Halo 3 career.
Oh and to add to Daravon's beautiful post:
BWU said:
xxjuicesxx said:
This damages the matchmaking experience for everyone else. The quitting has been rampant as of late and it is less than ideal to find yourself down a man or two in 5 consecutive games.
It's about time Bungie did something to the quitters. If you don't like playing random matchmade games then you should play a different game that has a server list or doesn't punish you for quitting.
I personally think quitters should be left with a 10 minute matchmaking ban every time they quit. That would be glorious.
xxjuicesxx said:
You can quit. You just can't quit habitually in order to manipulate the system and harm the experience for other players. There's a distinction. I'll illustrate.
House on fire? Go ahead and quit. This is important. Bungie won't penalize you and your friends will probably understand.
Quit two dozen games in a row with your Party of Five players because you want an achievement, leaving a wake of three man FFA battles that were undoubtedly ultra boring for the other players who stuck around like good netizens? Cry when you get your wrist slapped.
DancingJesus
Banned
Domino Theory said:
So first off quitting is no cheating, second it was a FFA game. No one else was affected by me quitting, it's not like I hurt the team. Secondly, there was hundreds of people doing the same thing and I don't care what the hell you have to say about "Bungie made me Cheat" , but if it was designed properly this wouldn't happen period. Put achievements in and don't offer a way to get them? Good Plan. Im not saying my actions shouldnt be punished, all Im saying is that it should be a two week ban, considering the circumstances and its a first time offense. Laugh all you want, all your being is immature.
xxjuicesxx
Member
soldat7 said:
I think this would be great. Its only 10 minutes but its enough that you can't just keep quitting over and over. You'd only get like 6 quits in an hour.
DancingJesus
Banned
xxjuicesxx said:
World of Warcraft already does this for battlegrounds and it works.
Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
TDG said:
"koom by yah, my Bungie, koom by yah"
Captain Blood
Member
New Crying Hilarious Halo thread is Hilarious :lol
Wait the only way to get this achievement is to quit out of a lot of FFA games? I was hoping I could just go in and get the achievement the way it is described
Dancing Jesus said:
Wait the only way to get this achievement is to quit out of a lot of FFA games? I was hoping I could just go in and get the achievement the way it is described
xxjuicesxx
Member
EazyB said:
no u.
DancingJesus
Banned
Captain Blood said:New Crying Hilarious Halo thread is Hilarious :lol
Wait the only way to get this achievement is to quit out of a lot of FFA games? I was hoping I could just go in and get the achievement the way it is described
Look, I loaded a map up over 60 times (Not all from quiting) and did not recieve it once. That's not balanced correctly, and thats that. After about the 20th veto I got frustrated and joined a party that was looking for an oddball game. Can we just drop this damn thing already? It's not as funny when your on the recieving end of it.
The Librarian
Banned
Be nice, Eazy.EazyB said:
Mind if I send you an FR? Would love to play some games with you.vhfive said:
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Why didn't you try Multi-Team? If you have a party who has the Legendary map pack, they will come up quite often, and I believe Oddball games are something like 15% in there.DancingJesus said:
DancingJesus
Banned
cjelly said:
I did try multi-team, didn't get shit there. Played about 15 games in that also.
Look, seriously, I think that if the punishment didn't fit the crime, or didn't fit what was established to be the punishment, then you've got every right to be upset. However, I think that a better course of action would be to not put yourself in that position at all, and I think that if you're going to post about it in a thread where people generally despise the action that you got banned for, you'd better be ready to be rightfully laughed at.
But Jesus, Jesus, you quit out of 24 games in a single day. You ruined 24 games for everybody else in the game by quitting out, all because you wanted some shitty achievements or something. I don't really have much sympathy for you here.
And again, everyone has the right to quit, let's be fair, but to put this in perspective, you quit only seven fewer games in one day than I've quit in my entire Halo 3 playing career, and I definitely think that I quit too much.
But Jesus, Jesus, you quit out of 24 games in a single day. You ruined 24 games for everybody else in the game by quitting out, all because you wanted some shitty achievements or something. I don't really have much sympathy for you here.
And again, everyone has the right to quit, let's be fair, but to put this in perspective, you quit only seven fewer games in one day than I've quit in my entire Halo 3 playing career, and I definitely think that I quit too much.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
At least I tried to get an Oddball game with a full party! I had the decency to not shit up someone elses game! :lolTDG said:
DancingJesus
Banned
cjelly said:
I did, I had 6 people or so in the party who all quit and noone else got punished. Not only that, you can look through my history and see I don't quit regularly. I have pages and pages worth of games without one quit, it's just this damn achievement made me do a stupid thing. I'm a completionist, especially when it comes to my favorite games, so I did what I did, and it is what is.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
So let me get this straight.
People are saying Bungie's at fault for a) their not getting oddball in matchmaking, despite that it's just a random percentage point.
b) saying it's not their fault that quitting continuously in a playlist because of said fact, regardless of how the other people who stay in the game feel (yes, that includes FFA, that's not an excuse)
leading to c)....all for some measly 25 point achievement?
This "achievement whore" mentality scares me.
You know you'll get it eventually, heck, look at how long it took Luke to get overkill.
People are saying Bungie's at fault for a) their not getting oddball in matchmaking, despite that it's just a random percentage point.
b) saying it's not their fault that quitting continuously in a playlist because of said fact, regardless of how the other people who stay in the game feel (yes, that includes FFA, that's not an excuse)
leading to c)....all for some measly 25 point achievement?
This "achievement whore" mentality scares me.
You know you'll get it eventually, heck, look at how long it took Luke to get overkill.
The Librarian
Banned
On a more positive note, I've gotten two overkills today; I think that's a personal record. And I just played my best game on Rat's Nest. Will upload to Gamevee.
xxjuicesxx
Member
TDG said:
Sadly most of the people he played against just viewed his quit as an extra bonus chance of placing one spot up automatically and a better shot at that ever so elusive 1 EXPERIENCE POINT! :lol
EXP, sooo stupid.
DancingJesus
Banned
Metroidvania said:
I said it was my fault, all I'm saying the playlists need to be tuned. It's a frustrating experience, playing for four hours straight and not running into something that should be there and I'm not the only one to run into this problem (as the reason, I had many different people in DLC parties).
I just counted, I had 70 DLC FFA Games total since the update has hit. Which over 75% of them where also veto'd to bring up yet another gametype. Mind you 46 of those where not quitted.
And 17 Multiteam Games
So you are saying you wouldn't be frustrated just a tiny bit by this?
soldat7 said:
This sounds like a great idea. Kinda like how forum posts have to be at least 60 seconds apart to prevent spam.
I used to quit over and over in sniper games because of how awful I am with the sniper (and it's probably better for my team that I'm not there :lol) but seeing how Bungie is cracking down more often now, I'm never quitting a game again. Not even if I get Team Duel on Isolation =p
backflip10019
Member
Yeah, sometimes I can totally understand why people quit. Earlier today, Blueblur and I and a couple others played a Social Slayer game on Narrows in which 3 out of 4 people on the other team quit immediately while still in the lobby. We all expect the last guy to quit, but no, we spend the next 12 minutes spawn killing him just because he doesn't want to lose one EXP.
Bungie should institute some kind of no EXP loss if 2 or 3 people on a team have already quit.
Bungie should institute some kind of no EXP loss if 2 or 3 people on a team have already quit.
God this thread has gotten so salty :lol
Bottom line is this, you guys all knew better.
Bungie just surprised everyone with a new / more severe course of action, that many didn't expect. You all let your guards down, and they caught you guys with hands in the cookie jar.
The only way you can beat the cheaters is zero tolerance. Nothing else ever seems to work. You need to make it hostile grounds to cheat.
The only thing I'd be worried about is if a poor connection / host selection made you an unfair target for the banhammer - though we haven't seen any case of that here on gaf (yet).
Everything else is within your control. My own patience level is running pretty thing with Halo3 lately for a number of reasons. All these new things (rules) are welcomed changes.
I actually really like this idea. It's especially frustrating on BTB's when its 8 vs 2.
I usually just drive around aimlessly at times like that. So maybe no exp penalty to quit aftere 50% of your teammates has already quit.
Bottom line is this, you guys all knew better.
Bungie just surprised everyone with a new / more severe course of action, that many didn't expect. You all let your guards down, and they caught you guys with hands in the cookie jar.
The only way you can beat the cheaters is zero tolerance. Nothing else ever seems to work. You need to make it hostile grounds to cheat.
The only thing I'd be worried about is if a poor connection / host selection made you an unfair target for the banhammer - though we haven't seen any case of that here on gaf (yet).
Everything else is within your control. My own patience level is running pretty thing with Halo3 lately for a number of reasons. All these new things (rules) are welcomed changes.
backflip10019 said:
I actually really like this idea. It's especially frustrating on BTB's when its 8 vs 2.
I usually just drive around aimlessly at times like that. So maybe no exp penalty to quit aftere 50% of your teammates has already quit.
TDG said:
I talked about this kind of thing before. Not sure if it's feasible within the matchmaking system. It would be nice to utilize something like this but ramp it up for people who continue to be habitual quitters. So five quits over time would be no big deal, but 594 quits and you're toast.
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