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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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Thanks for explaining Cocop, Mr. Voc.
Captain Blood
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Trasher said:Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
Domino Theory
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Merguson spoke to us.
Merguson fucking spoke to us!!!!
Merguson fucking spoke to us!!!!
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NO NO NO I MISSED IT?Domino Theory said:Merguson spoke to us.
Merguson fucking spoke to us!!!!
What did he say?
Domino Theory
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Cocopjojo said:
First it was "testing, testing" then "Hello there!"
Then we're getting in a hog and he's like "Alright, let's go"
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Alright I will get back on, is there room?Domino Theory said:
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I beg to differ.Ramirez said:I Love Lucy is the best show ever, well, that or The Cosby Show.
"Awwww crap!"
http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=holeinthewall
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Hah, great.. I wake up to find I have a tag. :lol
I'm curious to know which Mod changed it, not that I mind or anything. I actually think it's kinda funny.
I'm curious to know which Mod changed it, not that I mind or anything. I actually think it's kinda funny.
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DancingJesus said:
What is the deal with the member title area? I see that we can't change it ourselves. I checked the FAQ and didn't see anything either. I sent an admin a PM about it, but never heard anything back.
It's one of the quirks of GAF. It's called a tag.GM Bullfrog said:
1) Admins can change anyone's tag
2) Mods can only change their own
3) Members cannot change them at all
They are often used to shame stupid posters, as a warning to those who might take their posts seriously. Once in a while a tag is good.
xxjuicesxx
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GhaleonEB said:
Why the hell don't I have one!?
Prvt.Pegleg said:
YES, YES, YES AND MORE YES!!!
Playing Halo for money doesn't mean you are an athlete. It just means you are having fun. The majority of the Halo community is comprised of teenagers, I wouldn't expect to hear anything less than "OMG GET POOPED ON!".
Have you ever played football? The shitt that is said during game rivals if not goes beyond the stuff you hear on XBL.
xxjuicesxx
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Nah MLG is all about shit talking. You need to get into the other teams head, its just strategy.
When you are doing bad and the other team is putting pressure on you saying you suck it has an effect on your game.
This happens in EVERY sport.
Even if Halo isn't a sport its a competitive game.
Out of game the need for shit talk is there based on peoples negative associations. Walshy is pissed he got kicked off FB after carrying FB through a shitload of H2 tournies. Str8 is pissed at FB because FB stole Neighbor. This can lead to shit talk out of game.
This ALSO happens in other sports when player trades effect social circles.
Now the difference is Halo as a game is more about fun but when you play MLG professionally shit talk becomes a necessity.
But that has leaked from MLG to non MLG professionals and even into regular MM. So don't blame MLG players, cause theres plenty of times people have talked shit to me in Team Slayer and even in Social playlists. Don't stereotype MLG players as the only people who talk trash. Don't stereotype that talking trash is necessarily a bad thing either, its just part of gaming/sporting.
When you are doing bad and the other team is putting pressure on you saying you suck it has an effect on your game.
This happens in EVERY sport.
Even if Halo isn't a sport its a competitive game.
Out of game the need for shit talk is there based on peoples negative associations. Walshy is pissed he got kicked off FB after carrying FB through a shitload of H2 tournies. Str8 is pissed at FB because FB stole Neighbor. This can lead to shit talk out of game.
This ALSO happens in other sports when player trades effect social circles.
Now the difference is Halo as a game is more about fun but when you play MLG professionally shit talk becomes a necessity.
But that has leaked from MLG to non MLG professionals and even into regular MM. So don't blame MLG players, cause theres plenty of times people have talked shit to me in Team Slayer and even in Social playlists. Don't stereotype MLG players as the only people who talk trash. Don't stereotype that talking trash is necessarily a bad thing either, its just part of gaming/sporting.
Is shooting pool a sport? You don't see people playing 9-ball talking shit. Poker? You don't see any shit talk at the final table. Most dudes wear shades to hide their 'tells'.
I don't know what these games are classified as, but I'd say competitive videogames fall into that same genre, ie: not sports.
Talking shit is fun when you win, when you lose it sucks, end of story.
I don't know what these games are classified as, but I'd say competitive videogames fall into that same genre, ie: not sports.
Talking shit is fun when you win, when you lose it sucks, end of story.
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fin said:
I think my friends are different because I've seen shit talking in pool and poker and especially golf. Holy shit my friends will be at each others throats about golf.
Afterward its all in fun though. If you cant handle a little shit talking you might just be too sensitive of a person and you might need to lighten up.
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GhaleonEB said:
Gotcha, thanks for the info.
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Chinner said:
if by gamer fuel do you mean beer?
xxjuicesxx said:
I think you're muddling playful ribbing and banter with what really occurs nine times out of ten when a casual group runs into a squad of MLG tourney hopefuls. "Getting into someone's head" during a match is completely different than telling them they are "faggots" and that they "got raped" in the post game.
In every single sport you described, there exists what is know as sportsmanship. The winners tend to congratulate the losers on a well played match. Or they say nothing at all about anything except their own performance.
In the end, no matter what you attempt to compare it to, it's just juvenile behavior. I don't have much problem weathering it. But at the same token, it's just sad that the majority of MLGers I've run into behave no better than toddlers armed with big boy words.
The two conflict by nature. Throwing money into the mix only makes it more serious, more about the win, and less fun.KevinRo said:
It's the fact that most MLG players, on live or those that go to tourneys, are teenagers and immature ones at that which makes them a laughably miserably community. It's clear that most of these people have never participated in a real competitive environment and lack any comprehension of sportsmanship. Outside of Halo these people are nobodies and their gaming "skill" doesn't extend anywhere that a controller isn't in their hand.
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This.EazyB said:
I remember a few weeks ago when Tyson Gay lost his big Olympic race to another guy... a reporter caught up with him as he was walking away from the track and was asking him stuff like, "were you at your best," and "what happened?" Tyson responded (paraphrased), "Yes, I was at my best. I was at full-strength." The reporter didn't accept that and kept pressuring Gay to say something else, but Gay just said that he did his best and that it just wasn't enough this time.
I don't think that the sport inherently defines its players' sportmanship; it's like Eazy said, the majority of these players are just immature teenagers, and they can't handle any type of good sportsmanship.
In addition, I think Gabe's Greater Internet Fuckwad theory is in full effect on Live, especially among the younger set. They can get away with all kinds of shit on Live they can't in person. And really, any sense of sportsmanship goes out the window when teabagging is a part of the game.Cocopjojo said:
Romping through SBTB the past few days has me really chomping for the new playlists. Shifted map sets for SBTB and the revamped RBTB (6v6) has me pretty excited.
God dammit. I did all that typing an everything.Dirtbag 504 said:
EazyB said:
Exactly, gaming is something that you must participate in order to appreciate it, kinda like paintball.
I can watch the olympics and find some of it entertaining. Running full speed, jumping off of a spring board, doing 8 flips and twists then landing without breaking a limb. People understand that's pretty tough to do. I can also watch the MLG top ten and be like "whoa". But most people don't understand or care about: map control, head shots, and capture the flag, unless you're involved in the MLG. Professional gaming will only get as big as the competitive gaming demographic, which is fine.
The MLG community is just the worst. They walk around on the intenret complaining that bungie alwayss ignore them when in fact bungie pays a hell of a lot attention to their needs. Hell, most of the so called 'MLG' players are not even actually MLG players, they're just frat boys who like the label because it allows them to boost their ego and allows them to follow the idea that they're highly skilled videogame players.
For example, lets look at the recent BR debate. They want the BR to be changed back to how it was in H2 were the bullet hits are instant and there is no spread. This pretty much shows the shallowness of the MLG community: they complain that Bungie make the game noob friendly, yet they openly bitch that they want the BR to be made EASIER to use. I thought the point of MLG (if there is one) was for skilled players to seperate themselves from the rest in the form of a competitive competition.
For example, lets look at the recent BR debate. They want the BR to be changed back to how it was in H2 were the bullet hits are instant and there is no spread. This pretty much shows the shallowness of the MLG community: they complain that Bungie make the game noob friendly, yet they openly bitch that they want the BR to be made EASIER to use. I thought the point of MLG (if there is one) was for skilled players to seperate themselves from the rest in the form of a competitive competition.
I think you guys might be laser-focusing on MLG a bit, as though it's specific to halo that competitive jerks suck all the fun out of an FPS. That's sorta been the case since at least Quake. =)
The problem as that so many of the "MLG-hopeful" (I like that term) aren't actually professional players, in that they are not sponsored, and are not bringing home award money. Instead, they're just super-competitive jerks that have lost sight of the fact that they're just playing a video game. Many of them are just as interested in being insulting, rude, and racist to the gamertags they see on their screen as they are playing Halo. Many of them are unable to establish for themselves that being good at Halo isn't the only thing that matters.
Again, this isn't something new to games, let alone FPSs, it just so happens with Halo that there is an identifiable quantity of them that associate themselves with actual professional players, but really are just riding their coattails. If I had a dime every time someone told me that the MLG playlist needed to be modified a certain way without having the authority to make those assessments, I could retire on a private island shaped like a skull and live in the hollowed out dormant Volcano at its center.
The REAL pros that I've met have always been, well, professional. Walshy is a great example of a totally classy guy that can still have fun even though he's an extremely competitive player (LOL @ the kids that made excuses for how I could ever possibly kill Walshy at PAX last week, btw). The guys I've met from Final Boss, Classic, and Carbon were all really cool as well. For the most part, the "actual" pros are cool.
What I'd love to see from MLG as an organization, and I've been saying this since Halo 2, is a stance that encourages (or potentially enforces) sportsmanlike conduct amongst its players. Use the guys that are actually professional as a template for the peanut gallery walking around shouting "rape" at everyone they walk past. Actively establishing protocol for player behavior, even at tournaments, would go a long way toward removing the tarnish that is collecting around their name. Instead of allowing their community step on their name, a philosophy of sportsmanship could improve the MLGs image to the rest of the community and make them the model community that, frankly, they should be.
The problem as that so many of the "MLG-hopeful" (I like that term) aren't actually professional players, in that they are not sponsored, and are not bringing home award money. Instead, they're just super-competitive jerks that have lost sight of the fact that they're just playing a video game. Many of them are just as interested in being insulting, rude, and racist to the gamertags they see on their screen as they are playing Halo. Many of them are unable to establish for themselves that being good at Halo isn't the only thing that matters.
Again, this isn't something new to games, let alone FPSs, it just so happens with Halo that there is an identifiable quantity of them that associate themselves with actual professional players, but really are just riding their coattails. If I had a dime every time someone told me that the MLG playlist needed to be modified a certain way without having the authority to make those assessments, I could retire on a private island shaped like a skull and live in the hollowed out dormant Volcano at its center.
The REAL pros that I've met have always been, well, professional. Walshy is a great example of a totally classy guy that can still have fun even though he's an extremely competitive player (LOL @ the kids that made excuses for how I could ever possibly kill Walshy at PAX last week, btw). The guys I've met from Final Boss, Classic, and Carbon were all really cool as well. For the most part, the "actual" pros are cool.
What I'd love to see from MLG as an organization, and I've been saying this since Halo 2, is a stance that encourages (or potentially enforces) sportsmanlike conduct amongst its players. Use the guys that are actually professional as a template for the peanut gallery walking around shouting "rape" at everyone they walk past. Actively establishing protocol for player behavior, even at tournaments, would go a long way toward removing the tarnish that is collecting around their name. Instead of allowing their community step on their name, a philosophy of sportsmanship could improve the MLGs image to the rest of the community and make them the model community that, frankly, they should be.
Shishka said:
Brilliant.
I'd also love to see a player controlled reward system built into the actual game.
I dont know how you achieve it, but it'd be neat if there was a sportmanship medal. Maybe something that happens in the postgame lobby that involves rating the last match -- like ipod star rating like system pops up or something (has to be quick / seamless though.. nothing as slow moving as the avoid player thing). I'll leave this to the experts, but there is got to be a way to promote it within the actual game as well.
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