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Striker said:
Mids-.. er, Heretic is small enough there really isn't a necessity for a piece of equipment. That's the thing with certain maps, and how everybody assumes they all need something. For a small map like this, it's not needed. Cold Storage was the same way, and it has THREE pieces.
I totally agree that Cold Storage has way too much. I see Bubbles and Regens all over when I play that map.
And I think leaving the equipment out altogether on Heretic would have been the right choice. But, since I only played Halo 2 on local multiplayer and LAN (just once), I don't know much about how the map played on Live. To me, the bubble won't change much.
 
user_nat said:
Whats with all the spikers and SMGs on Longshore.
I was wondering where the bubble shield is. Unless they snapped this from something other than the default setup:

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The overview shows there's three(!!!) regens, but no bubbles.

big ander said:
I totally agree that Cold Storage has way too much. I see Bubbles and Regens all over when I play that map.
And I think leaving the equipment out altogether on Heretic would have been the right choice. But, since I only played Halo 2 on local multiplayer and LAN (just once), I don't know much about how the map played on Live. To me, the bubble won't change much.
It will prove decisive in flag extractions.
 
Decent update, shame they didn't put out the Midship overview nor the "vidoc" though.

big ander said:
No ViDoc is sad, but next week won't be too long to wait. I can hold out
I think
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And I agree with Dax, weapon and equipment on the last 3 maps looks good. Heretic seems fine to me, only one bubble. I think Longshore's big thing is going to be the Grav Lift, it'll change those 1-sided games. My huge problem with Citadel is that there are only 3 BRs per side. Team Slayer on that map might be rough.
I also thought the two sections at the end were funny.
Having ten rifles on this relatively small map will be tolerable when we have to play shitty AR games on it. Midship with only 3 rifles and no snipers is going to be complete dog shit with AR starts, think Guardian.

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EazyB said:
Decent update, shame they didn't put out the Midship overview nor the "vidoc" though.


Having ten rifles on this relatively small map will be tolerable when we have to play shitty AR games on it. Midship with only 3 rifles and no snipers is going to be complete dog shit with AR starts, think Guardian.

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Oh god I hate Guardian with AR starts. Now I'm dreading having "Team Slayer on Heretic" pop up day one in Matchmaking.

Hilarious .gif though.
 
I've only quickly glanced over the map overviews, and Heretic really surprised me. I thought Bungie was going to put a Bubble Shield and a Power Drainer at Needler(or Pink, or whatever). Hopefully it'll have a 120+ second respawn so it acts like a power weapon like they said equipment would be in the one ViDoc.

Longshore looks more and more like Headlong/Turf, and judging from how the bases are, like Hang Em' High like Bungie said it would. Also nice to see a Big Team Map only have two Ghosts.

Heretic looks nice with how they added faint Red/Blue colors to the bases, though I'm probably going to miss the faint sunset like lighting from Midship, but the skybox will make up for that(can't wait to see people say "OMG HERETIC IS TOO DARK OMG").

Citadel looks like a very well designed map, but the lack of Battle Rifles concerns me. Though, I could always veto for BRs which I'm sure if I play with you guys we would, and there's always customs for BRs, but then it'll just be whatever team I'm on losing because of the other team being so good. :lol

Though, I'm happy that Bungie is still supporting Halo 3 two years after release(and Halo 2), but then again they kept Marathon/Myth servers still going all of those years until they had to switch over and focus more on Halo.
 
EazyB said:
Having ten rifles on this relatively small map will be tolerable when we have to play shitty AR games on it. Midship with only 3 rifles and no snipers is going to be complete dog shit with AR starts, think Guardian.
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stoshfail

(i've uploaded like four or five revisions of citadel and longshore layouts since they first went up - assume there are probably minor inaccuracies, especially on longshore)

GhaleonEB said:
I was wondering where the bubble shield is. Unless they snapped this from something other than the default setup:
 
kylej said:
7 fucking BRs on Longshore, 2 BRs on Midship.... Seriously, Bungie? Are you kidding me? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

For Longshore, it shouldn't really matter since that'll be a BTB map (and the BTB playlist is always BR starts).

For Heretic... good luck. :(
 
kylej said:
7 fucking BRs on Longshore, 2 BRs on Midship.... Seriously, Bungie? Are you kidding me? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Longshore is a Big Team Map, so it'll have BR starts. Midship only had 2 BRs on it in Halo 2, Bungie probably didn't want to get people upset by changing the map too much like what they did from Lockout to Blackout.

Plus, there's always Customs and Forge. And Vetoing.

I hate the AR, and I like the BR, probably not as fervently as people here but there's more options in Halo 3 than there were in Halo 2 for changing maps for customs and map selection in matchmaking.
 
Domino Theory said:
For Longshore, it shouldn't really matter since that'll be a BTB map (and the BTB playlist is always BR starts).
It's safe in BTB, but Longshore will undoubtedly be used outside of BTB. There doesn't exist a one flag BR gametype in MM. That's why we get brilliant things like AR starts on Valhalla and even Avalanche. If someone pulled their head out of their ass and remedied the gametypes we wouldn't have to worry about how many BRs there are on a map, but alas...
 
Longshore's weapon set looks fine, except three regens. I mean, the hell?

Citadel is loaded with weapons. Two Snipers, six BR's, four Carbines, Brute Shot, etc.

Heretic is, like Midship, loaded in the middle (Sword, Shotgun, Carbine, Needler).
 
ZayneH said:
Longshore is a Big Team Map, so it'll have BR starts.

So are Last Resort and Valhalla and Avalanche. Just think of all the fun you've had playing Team Slayer Last Resort.

Thanks to the power of Shishka™ you and your friends will soon be able to enjoy 3v3 Longshore ARs in ranked playlists!

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edit. beaten by eazyb
 
kylej said:
So are Last Resort and Valhalla and Avalanche. Just think of all the fun you've had playing Team Slayer Last Resort.

Thanks to the power of Shishka™ you and your friends will soon be able to enjoy 3v3 Longshore ARs in ranked playlists!

If you've ever played with me, you would know I hate Team Slayer Last Resort(and AR starts), which is mostly why I only play Big Team so I can have a constant stream of BR start gametypes. Look, I hate AR starts, but if you don't want to play Longshore Team Slayer(who would?), then play Big Team, or go into customs, or veto it when it comes up.
 
Achronos said:
stoshfail

(i've uploaded like four or five revisions of citadel and longshore layouts since they first went up - assume there are probably minor inaccuracies, especially on longshore)
So we meet at last!!! :@ I've loathed you ever since I got into Halo/Bnet and found out about your existence. My online alias stopped being unique to me and everyone on Halo thinks I'm trying to pretend to be you. I hate you.

I don't really hate you, please don't ban me from Matchmaking.
 
Striker said:
Longshore's weapon set looks fine, except three regens. I mean, the hell?

Citadel is loaded with weapons. Two Snipers, six BR's, four Carbines, Brute Shot, etc.

Heretic is, like Midship, loaded in the middle (Sword, Shotgun, Carbine, Needler).
Achronos said:
stoshfail

(i've uploaded like four or five revisions of citadel and longshore layouts since they first went up - assume there are probably minor inaccuracies, especially on longshore)
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One regen for each side, a bubble in center. Pretty reasonable for such a large map.
 
Just got back from Aruba mon (man) (for some reason I talked Jamaican the whole time.) I think I caught up on everything except whats going on with Voc. Is he just doing the twitter or an actually full time employee. Anywho, Congrats Voc!
 
GhaleonEB said:
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One regen for each side, a bubble in center. Pretty reasonable for such a large map.
Seems too much of an overload, similar to how Rat's Nest is filled with equipment (two regens, two bubble shields, two trip mines, two grav lifts). It can be a large map and still have equipment designated to run normal. As I've iterated before, prior to the game's release, they made it seem like equipment would be rare to come by. With Citadel's fast respawns and more here, it's just contradicting what they've said before.
 
Striker said:
Seems too much of an overload, similar to how Rat's Nest is filled with equipment (two regens, two bubble shields, two trip mines, two grav lifts). It can be a large map and still have equipment designated to run normal. As I've iterated before, prior to the game's release, they made it seem like equipment would be rare to come by. With Citadel's fast respawns and more here, it's just contradicting what they've said before.
Well. They just revealed the layouts of three maps. One has a single piece of equipment, the next largest has four and the largest has five (for sixteen players to fight over). Relatively speaking, that's pretty rare.

And Longshore is big. A bit bigger than it looks in the screens. The equipment is very well spaced.
 
13 tons for that truck huh, wonder how much it actually cost to set up like that?

Can you imagine the emissions and the gas guzzling that thing does? Wonder if MS or Bungie would have a response to the green folks about this issue?

Either way it's pure manliness.
 
big ander said:
If I decide to go, I'll tell you and we can meet and play some ODST.


Needs more gunmetal gray.
Sweet man. If you've got my back I'll run in blindly, spray, and pray. Then we're screwed!

Edit: 30 days til odst! Hypehypehype!
 
EazyB said:
It's safe in BTB, but Longshore will undoubtedly be used outside of BTB. There doesn't exist a one flag BR gametype in MM.

Actually there's One Flag BRs in Social Team DLC
, but it only shows up on Orbital.
 
Oozer3993 said:
I've had One Flag on Last Resort in BTB.
I've played that once, but it was well over a year ago. And I play almost nothing but BTB. Haven't seen anything but one-bomb since then.

I still wish multi-bomb assault was in the mix with CTF.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I've played that once, but it was well over a year ago. And I play almost nothing but BTB. Haven't seen anything but one-bomb since then.

I still wish multi-bomb assault was in the mix with CTF.

I always thought it'd be fun if there was a CTF variant called Neutral Flag where there's just one flag in the middle and both teams could try and cap it.

That was in Halo 2, no?
 
Domino Theory said:
I always thought it'd be fun if there was a CTF variant called Neutral Flag where there's just one flag in the middle and both teams could try and cap it.

That was in Halo 2, no?

Yea I remember it was at least on Sanctuary, I also remember it being in rounds (I think) on Waterworks I believe and they called it Flag Wars.
 
ZayneH said:
If you've ever played with me, you would know I hate Team Slayer Last Resort(and AR starts), which is mostly why I only play Big Team so I can have a constant stream of BR start gametypes. Look, I hate AR starts, but if you don't want to play Longshore Team Slayer(who would?), then play Big Team, or go into customs, or veto it when it comes up.
What if you do not want to play BTB because of lag? I think the majority of you AR support crew really only play BTB so that is why you do not see the horror that is AR starts on 4v4 Avalanche..or Valhalla.. or any other map. Why should we be forced to play BTB to ensure that we get BR starts? And like Eazy said, the Skirmish playlist has no BR starts at all, think about that for a second.. the playlists (ALL) need to be redone. Yet we probably wont see that happen because Halo is still on top because of people like me who do not play much of anything else except Halo. I hope there comes a day when a game can replicate the gameplay of halo and have matchmaking system that isnt broken.
 
xxjuicesxx said:
Yea I remember it was at least on Sanctuary, I also remember it being in rounds (I think) on Waterworks I believe and they called it Flag Wars.

Foundation too right?
 
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Take care all!
 
Devin Olsen said:
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28 seconds ago "

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Pictures and Videos like whoa coming at you guys later today.

Take care all!

3:48 am? I hope its worth it.

which it obviously will be
 
Nutter said:
I think the majority of you AR support crew really only play BTB so that is why you do not see the horror that is AR starts on 4v4 Avalanche..or Valhalla.. or any other map.
What AR support crew are you talking about?
I hope there comes a day when a game can replicate the gameplay of halo and have matchmaking system that isnt broken.
You mean have matchmaking that is specifically tailored to your taste. You aren't the only who plays Halo.
 
Nutter said:
What if you do not want to play BTB because of lag? I think the majority of you AR support crew really only play BTB so that is why you do not see the horror that is AR starts on 4v4 Avalanche..or Valhalla.. or any other map. Why should we be forced to play BTB to ensure that we get BR starts? And like Eazy said, the Skirmish playlist has no BR starts at all, think about that for a second.. the playlists (ALL) need to be redone. Yet we probably wont see that happen because Halo is still on top because of people like me who do not play much of anything else except Halo. I hope there comes a day when a game can replicate the gameplay of halo and have matchmaking system that isnt broken.

You really think I'm part of the AR support crew? :lol I hate to spawn with the fucking thing and I try not use it as much as I can.

I've seen the stupid AR starts on Avalanche, on Valhalla and on other huge maps, and yeah, it does suck having to only really play Big Team to get BR starts all of the time(besides MLG which I'm horrible at, and Team SWAT, which nobody likes to play or doesn't when I do), but I doubt that Shishka is ever going to change matchmaking to have 50/50 percent starts of Team Slayer and Team Slayer BRs in the Team Slayer playlist, or put AR/BR starts in every match because if he would've, he would've done so by now. So, because of that, I've accepted to just play Big Team(or Social Slayer, or any social gametype, since I don't want to spawn on a big map with a AR in Ranked matchmaking).

Once again, I fucking hate the AR, but there's no use in asking for BR/AR, BR, or AR/BR starts when you, me, and many other people have done so countless times, yet Shishka hasn't done anything. I don't blame Shishka for the lack of BR starts, except for small things like flag return times and other decisions of his, but the majority of Halo 3 players, but the majority will always beat out the vocal minority due to numbers.

Though, I don't know why it hasn't been pointed out that the majority wouldn't really care if in Team Slayer it was 50% Team Slayer ARs and 50% Team BRs, since they would still have a 50% of getting AR starts.
 
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