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[Mr Vociferous]

I think the big question everyone should be asking themselves is:

Are Luke and Brian showing Halo 3 : Recon behind closed doors at TGS?

That'd be pretty early, right? We didn't get anything for Halo 3 in terms of in-game content until shortly before the game was released.

Luke and Brian are supposed to be talking to journalists today about the game, but I have yet to read anything about it. If something shows up on the radar folks, please post it here.

Thanks.

 

[Kibbles]

WHERE IS MAH LOST PODCAST BUNGLE?

Man, everywhere I turn this game is getting bashed. =( This is the only safe place to talk about it, it seems. CNET is saying it's coming out too soon and they are milking the franchise. WTF? I'd say milking the franchise more on Halo Wars than this. Plus, Bungie has been probably working on this since before Halo 3 released, that's at least a little over 2 years! Maybe if they showed some in-game stuff people would stop the bitching? Who am I kidding... it's Halo.

 

[Falagard]

Well the concept and "rainy" setting sounds/looks cool, I hope the game is good.

But seriously folks, I'm getting really impatient for new maps. If I have to wait much longer for Legendary to be free and required and for new maps, I'll be pissed. Now, if I have to wait until next fall for new maps... I'll be -I don't know- super-pissed, I guess.

There's a catch 22 with DLC.

It generates some money for an game title that is already out there.

Unfortunately, it also keeps players playing a game.

From Microsoft's perspective, it's not beneficial to Gears of War 2 for people to buy Halo 3 maps - because perhaps they won't buy Gears of War 2 if they're still playing Halo 3.

Do you think it benefits a publisher for players to keep playing a game that was released a year ago? The answer is: only if they can continue making money either selling the game to new customers or selling DLC to existing customers.

One way for them to make money is for people who haven't yet bought a game to figure out that their friends are still playing it and go buy it themselves.

How many people who own a 360 haven't yet bought Halo 3?

I think we'll see the new maps a month after Gears of War 2 ships.

 

[Dirtbag]

New maps PRE Halo 3: Recon.

Believe...

Bungie won't let us hang out to dry. Come on now...

Everyone is being such a negative Nancy!

Why do you guys continue to think that Bungie has control over when these maps release.
Have you learned anything from the past? Its MS's IP guys... they call the shots.

And to Falagard above me, Luke already confirmed that we will not see these maps in 2008.

 

[Falagard]

That'd be pretty early, right? We didn't get anything for Halo 3 in terms of in-game content until shortly before the game was released.

Luke and Brian are supposed to be talking to journalists today about the game, but I have yet to read anything about it. If something shows up on the radar folks, please post it here.

Thanks.

Sorta. If I remember correctly EGM/1UP got to see multiplayer a year before it released, and a 10 second clip of campaign. Then 5 months or so later we got the beta. Also way before that at E3 we at least got to see a cutscene.

 

[Merguson]

So how long until Halo: Flight, Bungie? Fall 2012? WTF.

 

[Falagard]

And to Falagard above me, Luke already confirmed that we will not see these maps in 2008.

Really? How did I miss that?

 

[The Librarian]

And to Falagard above me, Luke already confirmed that we will not see these maps in 2008.

Where?

 

[CrunchinJelly]

And to Falagard above me, Luke already confirmed that we will not see these maps in 2008.

LINK OR this didn't happen.

 

[blanky]

That'd be pretty early, right? We didn't get anything for Halo 3 in terms of in-game content until shortly before the game was released.

Luke and Brian are supposed to be talking to journalists today about the game, but I have yet to read anything about it. If something shows up on the radar folks, please post it here.

Thanks.

But it's not a real new game, it's a prequel riding on halo 3's title. That would suggest this is not something completely new, so they would have something. Would that be worth showing, i don't know. But i do feel a little annoyed by these zero sugar teases. They show a lot, but they also show nothing. I love the mood they create and the music makes you shiver. But it gives you almost no information about the game, just who you'll play and too much speculation. I really wish they would show this trailer then commit to it and show me what i've just seen is a real indication of what i will get, e.g. sort of game, sort of story, etc.

 

[Thermite]

And to Falagard above me, Luke already confirmed that we will not see these maps in 2008.

Seriously?

 

[Kibbles]

And to Falagard above me, Luke already confirmed that we will not see these maps in 2008.

p[o o]T You have got to be fucking kidding me.

Wow. Now I am in no hurry at all to go out and rebuy Halo 3.

*stares at Legendary Helmet* =( [note: Mine broke, I would never sell it.]

 

[Dirtbag]

LINK OR this didn't happen.

am I making this up? Didnt he come in here in this very thread and post this exact thing. I'm still searching, but I was pretty sure we already confirmed this.

EDIT:Also searching the bungie surprise reveal thread that Ghaleaon made now.

 

[The Librarian]

am I making this up? Didnt he come in here in this very thread and post this exact thing. I'm still searching, but I was pretty sure we already confirmed this.

I don't know where you are getting this from, and I bet that if Luke DID say something like this, the majority of people in here (or more) would have known about it.

 

[Metroidvania]

am I making this up? Didnt he come in here in this very thread and post this exact thing. I'm still searching, but I was pretty sure we already confirmed this.

EDIT:Also searching the bungie surprise reveal thread that Ghaleaon made now.

Well, if he did, I'm not seeing it here, or recalling it in any of our lobby discussions...

 

[Dirtbag]

I don't know where you are getting this from, and I bet that if Luke DID say something like this, the majority of people in here (or more) would have known about it.

I'm still going to look, cause I honestly remember reading this. Maybe I've got my news confused, but I was almost certain. I remember it around the time luke started getting us in check about the cover system and the GRAW guy stuff. Hmmm...

Maybe I'm getting confused with that date extracted from the trailer that now points us nowhere.

 

[Insaniac]

Ugh, so who at bungie thought it would be a good idea to put in the Flag achievements? Now every game of CTF i play on avalanche I hear my teammates go "No no no let him pick up the flag!"

or my teammate will grab the flag and camp the enemy base, trying to get kills

Ugh.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Ugh, so who at bungie thought it would be a good idea to put in the Flag achievements? Now every game of CTF i play on avalanche I hear my teammates go "No no no let him pick up the flag!"

or my teammate will grab the flag and camp the enemy base, trying to get kills

Ugh.

Yeah, the kills with the flag is shit, I even got betrayed a few times because I had the flag.

The kill 2 flag carriers is quite good, because it encourages defence, something which is normally sorely lacking from a CTF game.

 

[Dirtbag]

I'm still going to look, cause I honestly remember reading this. Maybe I've got my news confused, but I was almost certain. I remember it around the time luke started getting us in check about the cover system and the GRAW guy stuff. Hmmm...

Maybe I'm getting confused with that date extracted from the trailer that now points us nowhere.

Yeah still havent found anything. I guess I'm dreaming and done searching. Sorry for the panic, guess we'll just wait and see. Like you said I'm sure if this had been posted, everyone in here would have remembered it by now and jumped up with it.

I personally don't think we'll see the maps till Halo 3 Recon launches period, because it will allow MS to charge closer to full price for it (and market it like a full release) and basically forces someone only interested in singleplayer content to purchase the multiplayer content, and vice versa. Looking into my crystal ball, I predict to be angry by the pricing of this expansion.

/negative nancy



So back to my earlier question/statement, what do you guys think is the significance of the 1/6/09 date from the earlier trailer now?
It's possible that this is the date of the map-pack I suppose. It's certainly pointing to something. I would do backflips if this turned out to be true, as I can enjoy some fall games without needing too much Halo3 in my diet.

 

[alisdair]

Ugh, so who at bungie thought it would be a good idea to put in the multiplayer achievements?

Fixed.

 

[DancingJesus]

So what weapon was he/she holding? It almost looked like a new weapon with a silencer on it..

 

[Dirtbag]

So what weapon was he/she holding? It almost looked like a new weapon with a silencer on it..

Alot of us are thinking SMG with attachments.

And the first thing I think of when you talk about attachments.....
Adding a scope to a pistol.


MAKE IT RAIN

It would certainly be interesting if bungie added a classic mode to halo3:Recon multiplayer.
That consists of spawning with AR and scoped pistol, sure would shut alot of people up. Even if it's just a little.

 

[Captain Blood]

So back to my earlier question/statement, what do you guys think is the significance of the 1/6/09 date from the earlier trailer now?

I think this should be halogaf priority one. We might need voc or coco to come in and pick this lock, because I don't think a date like that just slips into a trailer on accident.

 

[DancingJesus]

I think this should be halogaf priority one. We might need voc or coco to come in and pick this lock, because I don't think a date like that just slips into a trailer on accident.

First official reveal of the game itself? Just throwing it out there. *shrug

 

[Dirtbag]

First official reveal of the game itself? Just throwing it out there. *shrug

Possible....
I think we can probably rule beta out of the equation while we are at it.
Just seems unlikely since we probably won't see major game changes. Also a beta that far out from launch seems equally unlikely.

 

[Sibylus]

This.

I still want my scary-as-shit, stranded-in-space, even-more-blatant-Alien-ripoff Flood game, please. That ends with a Nuclear Explosion.

It'd be crazy to end the game with the UNSC blanketing Harvest with hundreds of nukes while they simultaneously manufacture a cover-up blaming a second Covenant bombardment.

Spoiler

Crazy good, I should say.

 

[DancingJesus]

I still want my scary-as-shit, stranded-in-space, even-more-blatant-Alien-ripoff Flood game, please. That ends with a Nuclear Explosion.

Oh you mean like Dead Space?...

No Thanks.

 

[Striker]

Why couldn't Bungie release Assembly, and the other maps, like Cold Storage? That's assuming the MS-blame is true and "forcing" Bungie to wait a year to release them...

oh noes free maps!

 

[Ramirez]

They probably had to jump through a lot of hoops to get CS out for free. Even though it's free, MS still seemed to want it linked to the Legendary map pack for MM play. =\

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Fuck team doubles is hard as hell. Everyone is on second accounts, theres absolutely no ranking system in that playlist. 1 is as hard as 50!

 

[blanky]

Fixed.

it's not just that it's multiplayer achievements they're extremely specific, that just isn't fun anymore. Achievements shouldn't be too general but also not too specific, bungie's on the too specific side. They could have done much better.

 

[Dirtbag]

it's not just that it's multiplayer achievements they're extremely specific, that just isn't fun anymore. Achievements shouldn't be too general but also not too specific, bungie's on the too specific side. They could have done much better.

I'm against any multiplayer specific achievement that influences the natural progression of the game (in any direction) at the cost of the rest of the players in the game - particularly those players that haven't voluntarily entered into a custom game where such advances should be welcomed, but instead being randomly matched against/with someone with such motives.

 

[Striker]

I would've preferred "Compete in 1000 Ranked games" or "Compete in 2500 Ranked/Social games", etc.

Some were okay, since you can achieve them in Campaign. The achievements which focus on, for example, oddball kills is too tedious for any serious gameplay.

 

[DancingJesus]

I would've preferred "Compete in 1000 Ranked games" or "Compete in 2500 Ranked/Social games", etc.

Some were okay, since you can achieve them in Campaign. The achievements which focus on, for example, oddball kills is too tedious for any serious gameplay.

Completing X number of something achievements are not fun. Achievements like "Annual" are.

Anyway, I thought we went through all this already? MORE HALO RECON!

 

[blanky]

I'm against any multiplayer specific achievement that influences the natural progression of the game (in any direction) at the cost of the rest of the players in the game - particularly those players that haven't voluntarily entered into a custom game where such advances should be welcomed, but instead being randomly matched against/with someone with such motives.

it just ruins the game, multiplayers achievements should be easy. win so many games.

i really hate them being so specific, i just had 4 spllatter kills, in a row! then just before i get my last one i get betrayed, ill probably never get that close again. it's just an achievement, but it's still annoying.

 

[EazyB]

I would've preferred "Compete in 1000 Ranked games" or "Compete in 2500 Ranked/Social games", etc.

Some were okay, since you can achieve them in Campaign. The achievements which focus on, for example, oddball kills is too tedious for any serious gameplay.

Then you'd have even more people joining games AFK just to get the achievement. If they could make an achievement that promoted good MP games then that'd be great, but as far as I'm concerned, they should stay away from MP achievements altogether.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

10,000 Kills
20,000 Kills
100,000 Kills
1 Million Kills.

Promotes extended useage of a gamertag and solid playing.

 

[Dirtbag]

how about achievements like, win 5 matches on valhala, the pit, etc...

win 5 matches in a row.

complete 50 games in a row without quitting.

have 5 opponents "prefer this player" after a match

play a custom match on a forged map.

successfully "party up" 10 times in matchmaking with randoms.

Those don't sound like things that would interfere much, if at all to me.
Then cook up some more achievements like annual and you have yourself something memorable.

I still think 10 achievements worth 100 points each offering the creativity and enjoyment of "Annual" is more desirable to anything else.

I promise you, the achievement whores will chase a 100-point achievement like its going out of style. I bet they even remember the names of each achievement to.

 

[DancingJesus]

Anybody find a desktop version of this?

If not, please Bungie?

 

[Deleted member 21120]

nm

 

[VaLiancY]

I got Halo 3 back.

I want achievements.

Who wants to play with me?

 

[Shake Appeal]

I don't know where you are getting this from, and I bet that if Luke DID say something like this, the majority of people in here (or more) would have known about it.

And I would be punching walls. I would be angrier at Bungie than I ever have been (not-very-angry-at-all upgraded to actually-quite-angry). Releasing the achievement list and mentioning the names of all these maps that are probably in a near-to-finished if not finished state, and then holding them back until the next calendar year at least? Madness. And Halo 3 would die on its knees.

 

[Ramirez]

I would imagine MS wants all of the attention to be on Gears 2 this year, so I really doubt a map pack hits this year. Phasers set to no hype.

 

[MIMIC]

Well, if the new maps aren't coming out to next year, then I guess I can go ahead and finally get Legendary (wit my promo points )

 

[urk]

Anger leads to hate, Shake Apple.

 

[Mr Vociferous]

I would imagine MS wants all of the attention to be on Gears 2 this year, so I really doubt a map pack hits this year. Phasers set to no hype.

Yeah, I agree with this. My guess is that we'll get it next year. Possibly as a lead up to Halo Wars in late winter/early spring - when Gears 2's authority begins to wane.

 

[Striker]

Then you'd have even more people joining games AFK just to get the achievement. If they could make an achievement that promoted good MP games then that'd be great, but as far as I'm concerned, they should stay away from MP achievements altogether.

If you joined a playlist as party, which is what makes Halo's MM so glamorous, you wouldn't have players randomly away.

I rather have no multiplayer orientated achievements, either, but playing in certain amount of games and/or getting to a number of kills in a lifetime is better than getting 2 Double Kills in a game or 3 Oddball kills.

 

[Dirtbag]

Yeah, I agree with this. My guess is that we'll get it next year. Possibly as a lead up to Halo Wars in late winter/early spring - when Gears 2's authority begins to wane.

I just hope and pray the map pack is actually 1/6/09 and that was the significance of that date... but I still have my expectations set to mythic map pack in Fall 09 combined with Halo 3:Recon for $39.99 - 49.99.

Thats what my gut tells me.

 

[MaritalWheat]

I just hope and pray the map pack is actually 1/6/09 and that was the significance of that date... but I still have my expectations set to mythic map pack in Fall 09 combined with Halo 3:Recon for $39.99 - 49.99.

Thats what my gut tells me.

You really think the price will be that low? I'm guessing it'll be a pretty fleshed out game, and plus a map pack? I'm already putting $60 aside--especially considering MS is still the publisher.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Anger leads to hate, Shake Apple.

That's what I'm sayin', brah.

How's that road trip coming?