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GDJustin said:
The update says the other achievements require "context" ...
I doubt a sku change. One thing Bungie despises doing is splitting up their audience and a sku change would do that in a rather definitive way. I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion. The "context" here seems to reflect the "maps" evidently mentioned in the guide, of which Assembly was included. Since we know Assembly is a multiplayer map and it exists alongside other names, one could speculate further if they so chose.

Day one of PAX, there were no queues or stanchions so it let my lanky ass walk right up to what Sketch was doing on the two large screens. What I saw was a disc (because he was in the guide and he had to select the disc to play it) which said Halo 3: Mythic (in the title menu), playing on a normal Xbox 360. They had plenty of dev-kits, but this one wasn't from what I could tell. The menu didn't include any campaign, instead, from what could be seen, Assembly offered the background visuals and only had options for multiplayer, forge and theater.

If I were to guess (and I did to just about every GAF'er near me the moment I saw this), Halo "blue" and the Halo 3 supplemental mentioned by the Firefly guys are one in the same, a disc called Halo 3: Mythic. People who own Halo 3 already will likely have the opportunity to download any additional content provided on Mythic, but that disc will be available for retail since we know that Halo can sell on its multiplayer merits alone. Mythic will likely include all of the maps we have currently, plus Assembly and anything else they might have in the works.

So we got a few big puzzle pieces and it's cool that Luke was able to confirm at least some of what was seen at PAX. Hopefully we're on the right track.

Dirtbag 504 said:
want to borrow some of my hair? I've got plenty to go around.
lol. It's true!
I don't.

GhaleonEB said:
I need to be held.
::stretches arms outward::

Let the healing begin!
 
Okay, enough of bad and worthless posts.

This new experience thing determines your military rank correct? Is this solely in place for the social crowd? Which would make sense as your rank in matchmaking would still be there, but playing social would allow for the longevity of the online system as people would try to gain experience.

Is this right?
 
Mr Vociferous said:
I doubt a sku change. One thing Bungie despises doing is splitting up their audience and a sku change would do that in a rather definitive way. I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion. The "context" here seems to reflect the "maps" evidently mentioned in the guide, of which Assembly was included. Since we know Assembly is a multiplayer map and it exists alongside other names, one could speculate further if they so chose.

Day one of PAX, there were no queues or stanchions so it let my lanky ass walk right up to what Sketch was doing on the two large screens. What I saw was a disc (because he was in the guide and he had to select the disc to play it) which said Halo 3: Mythic (in the title menu), playing on a normal Xbox 360. They had plenty of dev-kits, but this one wasn't from what I could tell. The menu didn't include any campaign, instead, from what could be seen, Assembly offered the background visuals and only had options for multiplayer, forge and theater.

If I were to guess (and I did to just about every GAF'er near me the moment I saw this), Halo "blue" and the Halo 3 supplemental mentioned by the Firefly guys are one in the same, a disc called Halo 3: Mythic. People who own Halo 3 already will likely have the opportunity to download any additional content provided on Mythic, but that disc will be available for retail since we know that Halo can sell on its multiplayer merits alone. Mythic will likely include all of the maps we have currently, plus Assembly and anything else they might have in the works.

So we got a few big puzzle pieces and it's cool that Luke was able to confirm at least some of what was seen at PAX. Hopefully we're on the right track.


lol. It's true!
I don't.


::stretches arms outward::

Let the healing begin!

I called it. :p
 
Merguson said:
Okay, enough of bad and worthless posts.

This new experience thing determines your military rank correct? Is this solely in place for the social crowd? Which would make sense as your rank in matchmaking would still be there, but playing social would allow for the longevity of the online system as people would try to gain experience.

Is this right?

Sortof right. The update decouples rank and military ranking. Meaning you can hit General in any playlist you want after you get enough Experience. You cannot hit 50 in any playlist you want. In the service record people will still be able to see your Highest Skill. Ranked MM will still be based on a Rank 1-50.

Being completely honest though I feel like this CoD-like system is more to keep us distracted by the fact Bungie cant fix the real problem that is the terrible ranking system in place right now.

No I'm not mad I'm just disappointed. :D

Prvt.Pegleg said:
Got off my ban an hour ago.

Good games earlier, I'll definitely will be posting/playing more now. <3

Also, social HaloGAF, my hair:

That is what I was playing with earlier tonite on Lo'! You can forget about more games! :lol
 
sixthsubset said:
well that's because there's ridiculous maps like rat's nest in there, where people get flipped over and can't get back in because the enemy keeps rocketing their goose in close quarters.



again, i think alot of people didn't play it because of the weird maps put in there, like rat's nest, and earlier snowbound and isolation, that really pop up far too often.

plus, is the rocket race population really detracting from the rest of the population? i know i don't have the statistics like bungie does, but i'd imagine that the players who jump into it are tired of playing actual halo and and of all the shooting and just want to cool off. i think it might actually keep people on the game because instead of getting off the game they just play rocket race to take a break for a bit and then they go back to the other playlists later. plus i know personally many people who don't normally play the game but get on to play rocket race

i'm pretty sad that bungie isn't taking the time to try and do something about these issues and instead just takes the easy way out and removes it. why did bungie fight tooth and nail to save ranked btb and they aren't doing that for rocket race, a beloved playlist that is a shining example of why halo is so unique?
Holy shit, I agree with just about everything you said. The maps that Bungle used in Rocket Race was like they were trying to send the playlist out to die. In a given night I would play Sandtrap, Valhalla and occassionally Rat's Nest. Standoff would come up rarely. I've seen Isolation three times in my entire time of playing Rocket Race, which I imagine is hundreds of games. I've seen Avalanche once. Why not use Last Resort? Hell, I've seen a lot of great race maps on The Pit and some ingenious race maps on Foundry. If they're going to use Isolation, they could easily use High Ground or Snowbound. The playlist needed more variety than racing on the same two maps.

And you're right when you talk about average RR players. Domino once made a comment about how there were so many Brigs and Generals in there. But I've hardly seen any. In fact, usually Striker and I were the only two brigs in the game. Most were Captains or lower with a shitload of EXP. It was a casual game that was somewhat different from the regular gameplay. It was something that, for once, used the game's creativity for a broad group.

It's a shame Bungle's narrow-sightedness stops them from fixing it. As you say, there probably isn't going to be that big of a bump to the other playlists. Saying "people didn't play it right" was a stupid reason behind it. Every game that's ever been made has been plauged by people who didn't play it right. But, they're taking the easy way out and removing it. And I wouldn't really call their futile effor to save BTB "fighting tooth and nail."
 
Rocket Race had a great run. Plenty of folks enjoyed it throughout its lifespan, but the declining population and number of folks who weren’t playing the game properly moves this playlist off into the sunset. That said, it will receive a fond farewell via a Double EXP weekend and is sure to pop up again from time to time.
Sorry, but I find the "didn't play it properly" line faulty. Perhaps a player and his guest (which played that playlist very often, and was more likely to have fun than getting demolished in Social Slayer by a ton of Generals or Brigs) wouldn't wreck and blast others who are near or in eyesight if the person/people who made the game-type would remove items/objects from the maps, such as the barriers in Rat's Nest, for example. It's a race, right?

No reason to argue about Rocket Race, though, since it's going through the Multi-team tube line and basically erased from memory. Multi-team would be a better playlist if VIP was gone. Does anybody even like VIP? If anything, Escort, please.

why did bungie fight tooth and nail to save ranked btb and they aren't doing that for rocket race, a beloved playlist that is a shining example of why halo is so unique?
Resetting the ranks in Ranked BTB would have saved the playlist, right? No party restrictions. All players back to 1. Wouldn't that be a nice, true beginning? The players' ranks were so wide apart it caused a break in time for players to find a game in a short amount of time. With the amount of large maps, basically killing off Ranked BTB is killing off those maps, as well.

So therefore, I wouldn't necessarily call their way of "saving" Ranked BTB a strong effort...
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
want to borrow some of my hair? I've got plenty to go around.

Careful Dirtbag.

In a few years, that could be you.

Resetting the ranks in Ranked BTB would have saved the playlist, right? No party restrictions. All players back to 1. Wouldn't that be a nice, true beginning? The players' ranks were so wide apart it caused a break in time for players to find a game in a short amount of time. With the amount of large maps, basically killing off Ranked BTB is killing off those maps, as well.

So therefore, I wouldn't necessarily call their way of "saving" Ranked BTB a strong effort...

There were other issues as well, such as massive host-booting, laggers, and admittedly, too much lag to deal with in most games until 3 or 4 people quit/ lagged out.

Plus, they had a replacement in mind for RTB, Squad battle, which will actually allow _more_ maps to be in circulation, rather than just Valhalla, Sand Trap, Rat's Nest, and occasionally Standoff.
 
The AJ GAF PAX subforum is no more. : (

Looking forward to its return next year, and hopefully including more folks.
 
Microsoft taking too fucking long for this shit said:
It’s been more than a month since Microsoft slipped to us that Bungie’s secret project is a new “Halo.” Bungie hyped an E3 reveal, but Microsoft canceled those plans.

Microsoft promised news later this year, but that hasn’t materialized yet. During the 1UP Yours panel at PAX, an audience member asked Bungie writer Luke Smith about the still-unannounced game.

“Unfortunately, that’s not a question for me,” he told an audience member. “You’ll have to ask Microsoft.”

So, while we had Microsoft’s Xbox director of product management on the phone on Wednesday, we asked: When are we going to hear about Bungie’s next “Halo” project, Aaron Greenberg?

“Hopefully soon,” he told us. “We haven’t said anything exactly yet, but I know the ‘Halo’ nation and Xbox fans out there are waiting and there’s been a lot of rumors. We hope to be able to have some more information to share sooner than later.”

As soon as we have more news to share, we’ll pass it on.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/09/05/microsoft-new-halo-news/

This is so fucking stupid. Whether or not Bungie's next game is a Halo game or not, it seems that it's ready to be shown, but Microsoft is just holding back on this, and for what? It's like they have a hot chick ready to go in bed and instead of doing the most logical thing, they're just standing there saying "Hmm, well I COULD sleep with her, but I have to wake up in the morning, but she's too good looking, BUT I'll be too tired tomorrow.." JUST FUCKING DOIT.
 
Domino Theory said:
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/09/05/microsoft-new-halo-news/

This is so fucking stupid. Whether or not Bungie's next game is a Halo game or not, it seems that it's ready to be shown, but Microsoft is just holding back on this, and for what? It's like they have a hot chick ready to go in bed and instead of doing the most logical thing, they're just standing there saying "Hmm, well I COULD sleep with her, but I have to wake up in the morning, but she's too good looking, BUT I'll be too tired tomorrow.." JUST FUCKING DOIT.
I love how he says hopefully soon. Seriously, STFU dude, you guys have control over it, don't give me that BS.
 
zomg?!

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Grr... Hate this game so much sometimes. I've got 18 kills, probably around +10 and yet... we are losing by like 10.

So at the very end 40 vs 48 or something I get the sniper and start wiping their team out. Then while I'm trying to take out 3 guys rushing me my teammate (whom has next to 0 kills) runs in front of me and ends up getting hit by my sniper. Then I get booted by him. So stupid.
 
how can i give my friend some gamerpoints so he can buy the legendary map pack?

he's broke and his birthday is on the 22nd but i'd figure i'd give the points now

i know you can give points as a gift but i can't for the love of God find out where!

thanks in advance!
 
Heretic said:
how can i give my friend some gamerpoints so he can buy the legendary map pack?

he's broke and his birthday is on the 22nd but i'd figure i'd give the points now

i know you can give points as a gift but i can't for the love of God find out where!

thanks in advance!

Microsoft ended their whole 'points' gifting so if you want to give your friend points for the maps, you're going to have to give him a 1600 points card code for him to enter on his own.
 
Domino Theory said:
Microsoft ended their whole 'points' gifting so if you want to give your friend points for the maps, you're going to have to give him a 1600 points card code for him to enter on his own.

damn...

thanks for the help!
 
GhaleonEB said:
Just wanted to note, in case any one didn't know - that "Halo nation" is the Microsoft marketing department's branding of Halo fans.

I cringe every time I see it.
It begs the question, what type of Government consumes Halo Nation? Who is it's leader?

A grim vision of a land where "the Story Bible" is the equivalent of laws of the land flashes by. Prisons full of boosters, and file share felons. In the social hierarchy level 50's and higher lead the easy life, while my middle class 15 is shunned by society.

Brother can you spare an XP point? You need my account info? But it's all I have!

To see that same man crushed dead by the hammer named ban. A searchlight passes through the night sky. Searching. Watching.

I sit in the corner of a base in Valhalla, holding my knees. Looking around I see few others around me. I'm not alone.

A man in dark red recon armor rushes in and begins slicing them all up with a blue lit sword of energy.

This is Halo Nation.

We Are Halo Nation.
 
Buttonbasher said:
It begs the question, what type of Government consumes Halo Nation? Who is it's leader?

A grim vision of a land where "the Story Bible" is the equivalent of laws of the land flashes by. Prisons full of boosters, and file share felons. In the social hierarchy level 50's and higher lead the easy life, while my middle class 15 is shunned by society.

Brother can you spare an XP point? You need my account info? But it's all I have!

To see that same man crushed dead by the hammer named ban. A searchlight passes through the night sky. Searching. Watching.

I sit in the corner of a base in Valhalla, holding my knees. Looking around I see few others around me. I'm not alone.

A man in dark red recon armor rushes in and begins slicing them all up with a blue lit sword of energy.

This is Halo Nation.

We Are Halo Nation.

We are we are, we... the Halo nationnnnn.
 
Mr Vociferous said:
I doubt a sku change. One thing Bungie despises doing is splitting up their audience and a sku change would do that in a rather definitive way. I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion. The "context" here seems to reflect the "maps" evidently mentioned in the guide, of which Assembly was included. Since we know Assembly is a multiplayer map and it exists alongside other names, one could speculate further if they so chose.

Day one of PAX, there were no queues or stanchions so it let my lanky ass walk right up to what Sketch was doing on the two large screens. What I saw was a disc (because he was in the guide and he had to select the disc to play it) which said Halo 3: Mythic (in the title menu), playing on a normal Xbox 360. They had plenty of dev-kits, but this one wasn't from what I could tell. The menu didn't include any campaign, instead, from what could be seen, Assembly offered the background visuals and only had options for multiplayer, forge and theater.

If I were to guess (and I did to just about every GAF'er near me the moment I saw this), Halo "blue" and the Halo 3 supplemental mentioned by the Firefly guys are one in the same, a disc called Halo 3: Mythic. People who own Halo 3 already will likely have the opportunity to download any additional content provided on Mythic, but that disc will be available for retail since we know that Halo can sell on its multiplayer merits alone. Mythic will likely include all of the maps we have currently, plus Assembly and anything else they might have in the works.

So we got a few big puzzle pieces and it's cool that Luke was able to confirm at least some of what was seen at PAX. Hopefully we're on the right track.

What you're describing IS a new SKU -_-

If a new version of Halo 3 is released at retail. Halo 3 mythic, Halo 3 Blue, whatever, then it is a new SKU. It can have new/revised achievements. That's what I've been saying this ENTIRE TIME.
 
GDJustin said:
What you're describing IS a new SKU -_-

If a new version of Halo 3 is released at retail. Halo 3 mythic, Halo 3 Blue, whatever, then it is a new SKU. It can have new/revised achievements. That's what I've been saying this ENTIRE TIME.
Embrace Halo Nation.

Before it embraces you.








...hold me...
 
Buttonbasher said:
It begs the question, what type of Government consumes Halo Nation? Who is it's leader?

A grim vision of a land where "the Story Bible" is the equivalent of laws of the land flashes by. Prisons full of boosters, and file share felons. In the social hierarchy level 50's and higher lead the easy life, while my middle class 15 is shunned by society.

Brother can you spare an XP point? You need my account info? But it's all I have!

To see that same man crushed dead by the hammer named ban. A searchlight passes through the night sky. Searching. Watching.

I sit in the corner of a base in Valhalla, holding my knees. Looking around I see few others around me. I'm not alone.

A man in dark red recon armor rushes in and begins slicing them all up with a blue lit sword of energy.

This is Halo Nation.

We Are Halo Nation.

:lol

Amazing.
 
GDJustin said:
What you're describing IS a new SKU -_-

If a new version of Halo 3 is released at retail. Halo 3 mythic, Halo 3 Blue, whatever, then it is a new SKU. It can have new/revised achievements. That's what I've been saying this ENTIRE TIME.

Yes, but it will be released on Xbox Live too... (if even on disc, it's still just speculation at this point)
 
To all hair comments: Wasn't done at my house and I've got balls for doing it.

So the achievements are real? I thought Bungie said they couldn't do any updates to campaign or did I just remember incorrectly?
 
Update said:
Another thing we’d file under the “peace of mind” changes portion of TU2 is that we’ll be taking a much closer look at habitual quitters and their contribution to the Halo 3 population. It’s no secret that players quitting out of a game makes a suboptimal experience for those left behind, from black screen host migrations, to the general sour-taste losing while down-a-man actually leaves. For the purposes of this week’s update, this isn’t a “don’t quit or you’ll be banned” threat – but instead, a courteous notification that this is something we’re investigating and intend to continue investigating in the coming months.

I'd imagine it would be extremely difficult to implement now, but why did Halo decide to not allow people to enter the match mid game?

I was shocked the first time I realized I couldn't quit out of the lobby. Seeing as I could still quit out in game, it seemed like it was just wasting my time.

It's not that uncommon to say, get a map/gametype you don't like, have a bad connection to the host, get a party inexplicably split up. I'm not going to bother in that situation, I'll just find another match.

It seems odd that they would take away most of our choice, and now are looking to punish us when we do the one thing we can do to have an influence on what we play.
 
I believe the achievements are targeted at multiplayer and co-op online. Correct me if I'm mistaken, I never read the full list of achievements.
 
Prvt.Pegleg said:
To all hair comments: Wasn't done at my house and I've got balls for doing it.

So the achievements are real? I thought Bungie said they couldn't do any updates to campaign or did I just remember incorrectly?

some have been confirmed
and none of the achievements pointed to more campaign levels just more skulls

personally i think the skulls (if they are real) will be for mp and will just be the filters but thats just speculation
 
Buttonbasher said:
...

This is Halo Nation.

We Are Halo Nation.
:lol

I still don't understand how a new SKU would work. If Bungie can't add 750 pts of achievements into Halo 3, can they release a disk that has entirely different achievements yet is still compatible with existing the existing SKU? Even if they were compatible, it seems like they'd be read as two different games to the 360 and since the achievements wouldn't all add up under a single game title on, let's say, someone's XBL game's list, then one would have to buy the Mythic SKU if they wanted to get all the achievements.

I still
want to
believe the Mythic disk is just a update/map pack that will download to one's HDD similar to Halo 2's map disk. For those without a HDD, do you even matter?
 
GDJustin said:
What you're describing IS a new SKU -_-

If a new version of Halo 3 is released at retail. Halo 3 mythic, Halo 3 Blue, whatever, then it is a new SKU. It can have new/revised achievements. That's what I've been saying this ENTIRE TIME.
Yeah, I'm not referring to the achievements. I'm referring to compatibility with the original Halo 3. If two different SKUs can be compatible and work together in matchmaking, then they could have a hundred different versions of Halo 3 and it wouldn't matter. That's all I'm stating.
 
My thoughts on all the leaked pics. Why would Bungie waste their time with the new "Mythic" menus and extra achievements? I'm pretty sure there will be a multiplayer only version of Halo 3 released with all the original maps, DLC, and new achievements in time for the holiday season. It will give people without a hard drive a chance to join in on the new map action and new xbox owners a lower priced alternative for a piece of Halo fun this holiday. It will probably be priced at $29.99. just my guess. (probably wrong.) :lol If I'm not making any sense...i had a few drinks tonight.
 
Yes. I mean, surely its not the parents fault for letting the kid play a game that has a age rating higher than his actual age. And surely it is not the parents fault for leaving a gun around in the open where a child can get their hands on it!

Nope, our strong christian values will not let us believe that the kid killed himself! Nope! Must be those pesky video games!
 
Chinner said:
Yes. I mean, surely its not the parents fault for letting the kid play a game that has a age rating higher than his actual age. And surely it is not the parents fault for leaving a gun around in the open where a child can get their hands on it!

Nope, our strong christian values will not let us believe that the kid killed himself! Nope! Must be those pesky video games!
Yes...it doesn't matter that millions of other Halo players manage not to shoot themselves, if this kid did, it must be the game's fault!
I'm terrible, my first thought at that headline was that the kid lost a recon match at PAX
Anyways, Louis, the shirt came in, sexy sexy stuff right there. Great doing business!
 
urk said:
Wow. That's heartbreaking. And it's not surprising that the family is looking for anything to latch onto in order to makes sense of something so senseless, even if they are grasping at air.

:(
It is terrible, but if they're going to throw accusations around they should be placing blame where it should really be placed and spreading the message: lock up your guns if you have kids! Accessible weapons and children never mix--I don't understand why people are so senseless as to not understand this!
Edit: Wow, I sound like an insensitive bastard. I hope its a given that I still feel sympathy for those affected by this, I just feel more good would be done if people were told "lock up your guns" rather than "don't play Halo" (even though a young child shouldn't be playing that either) :(
 
MaritalWheat said:
It is terrible, but if they're going to throw accusation around they should be placing blame where it should really be placed and spread the message (lock up your guns if you have kids!). Accessible weapons and children never mix--I don't understand why people are so senseless as to not understand this!

I don't know that it's possible to put yourself in their shoes, I can't even imagine what it would be like to lose a child, but it's easy to imagine that some would find it much easier to deal with by looking for external things to blame.

Sitting on the outside of all that emotion, it's simple to say, "He had unsupervised access to a loaded assault rifle!" There's no need to look much further. But for the family, that's an ugly conclusion that puts the onus of their child's death squarely and unequivocally upon their own shoulders. It might just be too much weight for them to bear.

And unfortunately, as the family struggles to makes sense of it, there are plenty of outlets willing to use their suffering to further an agenda. "See! Video games are dangerous!"

It's all very sad.
 
urk said:
I don't know that it's possible to put yourself in their shoes, I can't even imagine what it would be like to lose a child, but it's easy to imagine that some would find it much easier to deal with by looking for external things to blame.Sitting on the outside of all that emotion, it's simple to say, "He had unsupervised access to a loaded assault rifle!" There's no need to look much further. But for the family, that's an ugly conclusion that puts the onus of their child's death squarely and unequivocally upon their own shoulders. It might just be too much weight for them to bear.
And unfortunately, as the family struggles to makes sense of it, there are plenty of outlets willing to use their suffering to further an agenda. "See! Video games are dangerous!"
It's all very sad.
The bolded part = very true, although having just read the full article, I guess its not even being 'blamed' on the game--it basically just states the fact that he was playing the game and was then playing a little make believe version of it in real life with what he thought was an unloaded gun--so truly a terrible accident. Also, the full article does emphasize basically what I said, gun safety is important for kids. So I guess there's nothing to argue, completly my bad for only reading only the small section linked to and jumping to conclusions--however, I do wish I was home for the local news tonight (I live like 30 min's away from the location), I'd love to see Fox's terrible spin on all this.
 
Cocopjojo said:
The AJ GAF PAX subforum is no more. : (

Looking forward to its return next year, and hopefully including more folks.
It was excellent meeting you all. And thanks for the subforum, Cocop. It made communicating with each other before the trip much easier. Fun times.

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Prvt.Pegleg said:
Got off my ban an hour ago.

Good games earlier, I'll definitely will be posting/playing more now. <3

Also, social HaloGAF, my hair:

*Hair Pic*
First off, it was fun playing with you yesterday. But more importantly, GOOD GOD, MAN! What's the story behind this? I mustn't be the only HaloGaffer who yearns to know the full tale.

Mr Vociferous said:
If I were to guess (and I did to just about every GAF'er near me the moment I saw this), Halo "blue" and the Halo 3 supplemental mentioned by the Firefly guys are one in the same, a disc called Halo 3: Mythic. People who own Halo 3 already will likely have the opportunity to download any additional content provided on Mythic, but that disc will be available for retail since we know that Halo can sell on its multiplayer merits alone. Mythic will likely include all of the maps we have currently, plus Assembly and anything else they might have in the works.

So we got a few big puzzle pieces and it's cool that Luke was able to confirm at least some of what was seen at PAX. Hopefully we're on the right track.
Quoted because it is concise and it is in line with what I've been assuming this whole time while others debated.

GhaleonEB said:
Just wanted to note, in case any one didn't know - that "Halo nation" is the Microsoft marketing department's branding of Halo fans.

I cringe every time I see it.
And with that said, I won't be using that term ever again. I'll use my own term like, um... how about 'Halo fans?' Pretty straight to the point and not from a market dept. right?

Kibbles said:
My response:
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Buttonbasher said:
This is Halo Nation.

We Are Halo Nation.
Funny! But I cringed because I thought of this...

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Oh! And Guitar Hero 2 on Hard is frickin' hard.
 
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