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TCL Technology have said that a new Xbox Series S/X and PS5 Pro are coming in 2023/2024
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prinz_valium
Member
PS4 Pro released in 2016, just years after launch?
Damn that was early
Damn that was early
DaGwaphics
Member
True, that might kill the idea. You'd really need the box powerful enough to double the framerate of XSX/PS5 across the board, that way even if the console wasn't being supported well you'd at least get the higher fps.
Plantoid
Member
Us is experiencing the great resignation right now, not a good look for a company that needs it's employees to be constant
Investor9872
Member
No. You got that backwards. China will invade and take over Taiwan illegally as soon as TSMC is not there anymore. the 12 TSMC factories in Taiwan is the ONLY reason why China has not invaded Taiwan.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Sony and apple learned from “pro” versions. Every new phone these days have plus, max etc. these next 6 months will be PS5 Pro spec speculations.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The Pro & One X was probably a little more successful then the PSP Go
It's not happening again.
FFS we're still getting cross gen games.
I mean can you imagine the size of the PS5 Pro.
It probably have a full scale T-1000 in it to keep it cool.
It's not happening again.
FFS we're still getting cross gen games.
I mean can you imagine the size of the PS5 Pro.
It probably have a full scale T-1000 in it to keep it cool.
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SenjutsuSage
Banned
Microsoft could drop a 20GB RAM Series X design without a single design change other than replacing the 4 1GB RAM chips with 4 more 2GB RAM chips.
NoLootBoxDev
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wont read other posts searching to the same answer anyone else will do...
Xbox Series XXX
It will have an advance chip, which will allow human/furry/nonhuman/them/they/whatever/everything in their birth suit with extreme details...
StateofMajora
Banned
But... why? To fix the split bandwidth?
DaGwaphics
Member
Wonder what would net a more useful boost, that or bumping the bandwidth like was done with the desktop cards (which might be a bigger performance bump on console since there is no IC)?
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Magic Carpet
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Series PC
with Windows.
Hezekiah
Banned
Here we go...
Why is it so difficult for PCMR zealots to understand that many console gamers don't give a damn about these so-called 'millions of compromises', never mind stump up top dollar for it.
I enjoy having both and am happy to spend a significant amount of components, but most people don't get a hard-on for state-of-the art hardware and just want a console for a few hundred dollars. Look at how significantly the PS4 outsold the PS4 Pro when it was released for example.
After decades of gaming, you would think nerdy enthusiasts would understand this
Hawking Radiation
Member
100%
I can't even walk into a store in my area to pick up a PS5 off the shelf. Still have to put my name on a waiting list and then wait for the next shipment which are months apart. Fucking ridiculous.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Fixed
ReBurn
Gold Member
ZoukGalaxy
Member
The irony.
Still can't find a PS5 "normally", that's ridiculous.
Still can't find a PS5 "normally", that's ridiculous.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Still can't find a lot of tech normally thoughThe irony.
Still can't find a PS5 "normally", that's ridiculous.
Guess they better not make the 4000 series video cards until every single person has a 3080
Or not make any model year 2023 vehicles because car lots are currently cleared out
Companies are not going to stop moving forward because chip makers are running behind
Ybarra always told me Xbox was always thinking to the next console I am sure Sony will do the same
TLZ
Banned
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I don't want to buy an 8k TV just yet.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
I get that some gamers will want this and I am not knocking them for it but it just seems like a waste with all things considered, like the lack of next gen games that isn't even pushing the consoles we have now.
No one buys consoles for high end performance, the only reason the mid-gen refreshed happened was because companies wanted to push the sales of 4K TVs. Buying a PS5 pro to play cross gen games at 120 fps with RT seems like overkill to me but I get that an audience is out there for it.
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Aguero9320
Member
Bring it on. Moving again in November and have space for a really nice theater room - Series XX or whatever will go very nice in there. Hope they don’t hold back and go nuts with the power.
HoofHearted
Member
I see what they did there....
Mathz..
Clearly they've caught onto the secret release pattern...
Mathz..
Clearly they've caught onto the secret release pattern...
KXVXII9X
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if people fell into this marketing and all bought expensive 8K TVs just for an upgrade that would change little in the grand scheme of things.
Magic Carpet
Member
8K? Netflix tier for 8K is going to be over 40 bucks a month in the future.
4X the memory needed?
Series X elite 64GB of memory
Series S elite 40GB of memory
The S is going to get a pro version too right?
4X the memory needed?
Series X elite 64GB of memory
Series S elite 40GB of memory
The S is going to get a pro version too right?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
It would fix that immediately, yes. They did something like this once before by going to a traditional unified memory design with One X. Only this time this change requires a whole lot less work. It would actually lead to an immediate boost in raw performance with no other change other than fixing the split bandwidth. And games wouldn't have to be designed any differently. And with the smaller node, it might not be as expensive to drop that 20GB in there, either.
StateofMajora
Banned
Ok, But if they're going to make a whole other sku for developers to worry about they'd have to increase the gpu as well.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
That's what I'm saying, it's easy to release a 20GB Series X without changing a single thing about the design. No change to GPU either. The Series X already comes with a 320-bit bus. 10 memory controllers. 6 of them has 2GB memory chips, the remaining 4 has 1GB memory chips. Make all the chips on the 10 memory controllers 2GB, and just like that you have a 20GB Series X with no need to bother with making any other changes. Based on the design of the series x, this is a realistic scenario if they can manage to make having the 20GB affordable enough for them to do it. Games designed for launch Series X would only run great on this 20GB Series X, they would run better simply due to the consistent memory bandwidth offered by the fully unified 20GB. And for devs who felt like it, they could make enhancements.
Zero development changes would need to be made. Hell, it could even replace the launch Series X safely with zero disruption to games development. This wouldn't be treated as some kind of mid-gen refresh, but just as a refinement that happens to benefit from more RAM the same way Xbox One S supported features OG Xbox One didn't, like HDR.
As far as mid-gen refresh, I've always strongly believed they were coming. Let's see if they do.
ParaSeoul
Member
Yeah TCL have no way of knowing,I'm assuming this is basically their guess to what those consoles can do to get more people on 8K.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Probably. Got to pump up something to promo 8k.
It's not like there's tons of 4k content to begin with and 4k tvs have been selling for years. So it's not like tv and movies will suddenly jump to 8k promotion. No wonder there's so many people who are happy sticking to 1080p. Unless their TV breaks and the only thing available are 4k to buy, they'll milk their 1080p forever.
I dont think too many people load up on 4k movie discs, nor have cable providers with tons of 4k channels either. Rogers Cable only has a handful of 4k channels and last time I checked it was one general entertainment channel of music videos and the rest are sports. And TSN4k doesn't even loop content 24 hours. They only show certain live broadcasts on game day and then shut down for the night.
When 8k tvs are in full swing, there might be zero content for it aside from a small number of 8k tv/movie discs and whatever consoles can push 8k games.
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I Master l
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Xbox lead architect said there are no future when the Series X cost 300 $ to make, this means big consoles will still
cost 500-450 $ to make in 2023, For a Pro console to be meaningfuly more powerful it could cost 600-700 $ to make
and they still have to make next gen consoles that should be even more powerful in 2026-2027 and cost 500 $ to make ?
cost 500-450 $ to make in 2023, For a Pro console to be meaningfuly more powerful it could cost 600-700 $ to make
and they still have to make next gen consoles that should be even more powerful in 2026-2027 and cost 500 $ to make ?
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If that happens with future console tech, sales "should" tank. Then again PS5/Series X demand at $500 US has been sky high. Maybe amped up $600-700 at the beginning, then having it slide down to $500 in its final years isn't so bad. Cor gamers accept higher prices.
But if shit hits the fan and console gamers are locked into a $500 max threshold, than console sales will tank in later versions. No wonder they are focusing on streaming and PC ports.
We're not there yet, but in 2027 when next gen starts, we might be at that bridge if PS6 and Series Y are $600-700.
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
Just imagine if the slide had said that instead.
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01011001
Banned
lol
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Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
Thank god ..
Faith hasn’t been lost in replies like this one, yea I moved to another platform but man some people still didn’t get their XSX/PS5 and still no real Next-Gen games to really show what next gen really is. It’s a total failure to bring another version which is powerful than what we got but still no huge difference than the last gen ( which is should be called next-gen regarding its outstanding performance next to some games )
Now that we are talking about it .. don’t you think they were on a hurry? releasing PS5&XSX?
MastaKiiLA
Member
What is the point if they can't even manufacture enough of the base model? Economies of scale should favor continuing to make the current model. Not sure what there is to gain from a Pro model, unless it's priced so high that it's profitable from launch.
BlueHawk357
Member
By the time PS5+ and SeriesX+ come out, over 90% of game profit will come from Free-To-Play or subscription services. I’m not exaggerating at all. Just look at the current statistics and trend.
RPSleon
Member
TCL. I dont think this is confirmation of anything, only forming a pattern from previous consoles and using that to guess the future.
Anyone know what the image is actually for?
Are they just trying to push new tvs and using the potential new consoles to back up their plans?
I think its purely guess work.
Why would TCL know anything about the inner workings at Sony and Microsoft?
Anyone know what the image is actually for?
Are they just trying to push new tvs and using the potential new consoles to back up their plans?
I think its purely guess work.
Why would TCL know anything about the inner workings at Sony and Microsoft?
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