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Spain shatters two-party rule, Europe watches as it turns into an ungovernable mess
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Funky Papa
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Pedro Sánchez: SEE WHAT YOU DID, PABLO?
Man, that lost chance at grabbing the presidency is going to haunt him forever.
Fuck. Me.
Man, that lost chance at grabbing the presidency is going to haunt him forever.
We've reached Belgian territory now.
Fuck. Me.
Turin Turambar
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I think the Brexit had something to do, as it showed the danger of referendums.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
The PSOE lost at Andalucia and Extremadura. It got rolled at ALL REGIONAL CONSTITUCENCIES and ended up with its own result ever.
Yet they are celebrating Podemos didn't overtake them. The hubris.
This is the reality of Spanish politics.
Yet they are celebrating Podemos didn't overtake them. The hubris.
This is the reality of Spanish politics.
This is the level of the people, not politics. Politics is just a reflection of a rotten, vengeful and fucked up society that likes to be robbed and votes for corruption, cutting of public spending and fascism.
This is the victory of fear, the victory of "the devil you know..."
There is no solution. If all the corruption cases, all the numbers, all the shit this goverment has been doing has not changed people's minds, nothing will.
I'm not blaming the corrupt parties, I'm blaming the people that supports them. People here don't vote for, they vote against. They prefer thieves and liberalist corrupts to new things because they don't like the guy with the ponytail. And Venezuela, always Venezuela.
Stupid Sánchez congratulating himself after having disastrous results tells you all you need to know about spanish society. Again, this country and its people disgust me.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I need Susana Díaz to take the PSOE's reins at lead it into the void.
Blood for the blood god.
Blood for the blood god.
Franchuzas87
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Democracy, how does it work?
Like shit if you are young, not rich, and live in Spain.
BC and Navarre will never be friends huh
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Time to make peace with the fact that nothing is going to change in the slightest until the PP starts targeting pensioners.
I think we may end up starting a civil war at some point. How can they keep winning when not one day goes by without a new corruption scandal?
I swear these elections must be rigged
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Crazy talk.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Wholesale murder is still far away from the menu, so we have that going.
Seth Balmore
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This is pretty much how I feel. No energy to be angry, sarcastic or anything of the sort. I feel defeated, sad, fearful.
So what now? Elections ad nauseam? 4-8 more years of the same unabashed crooks ruling us? Like Funky Papa said, better make peace with the fact nothing will change unless they fuck with the 60+ electorate directly.
Palette Swap
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I was going to post "your left is in tatters, but at least you don't have to deal with FN", then I rembered how shit and hardcore PP can get.
Funnily enough, we spent two weeks in Spain last month and left thinking "yeah, the country is a bit too religious for my tastes but they seem fairly liberal too". Except we were staying in Lavapiés LOL.
Continental Europe sounds so fucked right now.
Funnily enough, we spent two weeks in Spain last month and left thinking "yeah, the country is a bit too religious for my tastes but they seem fairly liberal too". Except we were staying in Lavapiés LOL.
Continental Europe sounds so fucked right now.
We wait 8 years until a huge chunk of PP voters pass away.
Napalm_Frank
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gutter_trash
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I hope they maintain environmental and natural conservation intact.
I'm more interested in the conservation of the Iberian Lynx.
I'm more interested in the conservation of the Iberian Lynx.
Ramsay and Theon torture arc.
I never thought this elections would change anything, but I think Spain is indeed changing and as younger generations start maturing and the elders pass away, the political environment will turn around. I don't think the PP party will throw Spain into a void of despair this next 4 years, but they really need to cut their shit down, stop the corruption stuff, and come off as a clean party who is really willing to let the country grow.
The problem is that a left grand-coalition is needed but won't happen for some reason.
One of the cases where a two-party system works better, since if Podemos politicians just formed a left-bloc wing of PSOE, they'd have their government already (yes, i get that this is oversimplifying how it would actually be).
One of the cases where a two-party system works better, since if Podemos politicians just formed a left-bloc wing of PSOE, they'd have their government already (yes, i get that this is oversimplifying how it would actually be).
Please, stop to watch Marvel movies.
I don't know if PP will try to fix something because they have the votes anyway, but it would be a good time to clean its party to get back some integrity.
Ether_Snake
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My guess would be that the corrupt party will win a landslide in the next election. That's what happened where I lived, sort of. There were huge scandals, so the government lost to its main opposition, but that ended up as a minority government and when it called for elections again less than two years later hoping for a majority, people put back the corrupt party in power as a majority government. And it's still very corrupt, and will likely remain in power for another good six years at least (it was in power for around 12 years before losing for a year and half). That's 20 years of being run by a party that is known, even judicially, to be corrupt, and for which scandals still come out.
People prefer to put back a "working government in power" than keeping a minority government in place for long.
People prefer to put back a "working government in power" than keeping a minority government in place for long.
Seeing how much support they won after all the Valencian and Punica corruption plus the fabrication of false proof against indeps, i dont think we in spain have the balls to make a government crumble.
I feel totally stupid. I even feel like this is just made up and that new company that the PP contracted without a public selection for managing the votes is fucking up the results.
When the first results started to come in, I was angry. Now I'm just depressed. There's no way to turn this country around, it has been shown again and again.
Oh how I wish I was born a Catalonian now. I could dream of becoming independent from this corrupt, rotten shell of a nation we have. It would be only a dream but hey, dreams can give you hope.
I'm almost 30 and I really see no future here.
Oh how I wish I was born a Catalonian now. I could dream of becoming independent from this corrupt, rotten shell of a nation we have. It would be only a dream but hey, dreams can give you hope.
I'm almost 30 and I really see no future here.
Rolodzeo
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Because there isn't. PP gained more than half million votes since december. Fuck my life, this country is beyond comprehension.
johancruijff
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the fuck?
PSOE got more votes than Podemos?
PSOE got more votes than Podemos?
Touché, but I meant more like the frame work and how the parties are managed.
I can't think of any way to convince Catalonians to stay after this. At this point I hope the Basque Country also tries to pursue their independence. Get out of this shithole asap.
Totally Agree, what a lost chance, even if was for only three or four months to deactivate some stupid laws (citizen security law, I am looking at you).
P.D.- I am one of the lost million voters of Podemos for that movement
Don't worry, that's the only thing we're sure the PP are going to do to you....to me...to everybody....and they are gonna keep winning elections.
Seeing the results, at this point they would lose votes if they would do that.
I barely know who these people are, but I'm in tears about this image. Robame... dis hermano. Robame
It's depressing. I expected PP to win because we don't learn and change takes time but... gaining votes? The hell? What do they need to do to lose votes? Eat babies on live TV? Good God...
I'm totally convinced now, after Brexit and now this, Trump is taking the US elections. People of the US, please prove me wrong! Give me hope!
I'm totally convinced now, after Brexit and now this, Trump is taking the US elections. People of the US, please prove me wrong! Give me hope!
Everytime I start thinking that perhaps there is hope in Spain, that perhaps Spain is not that bad and being a Spaniard is not that bad, Spain does not fail to disappoint me.
As a Basque, and after yesterday's results, I am more and more convinced that independence is the only way. Independentzia bide bakarra da. There's no other way to escape from this mess.
As a Basque, and after yesterday's results, I am more and more convinced that independence is the only way. Independentzia bide bakarra da. There's no other way to escape from this mess.
Impulsor
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A lot of Catalonian friends are telling me the same thing.
I don't like it
I don't want you guys to go.... If you go, please take me with you.Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
The best available option, I think. The generational shift sure is taking a while though. Hopefully in 4 years this shit stops being so embarrassing.
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