kiphalfton
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There's this thing called "multi-quote".
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There's this thing called "multi-quote".
AMD expects 20% decline in gaming revenue from 'higher memory and component costs' in the second half of the year — CEO Lisa Su warns of further memory crunch
The memory squeeze hits the balance sheet.
20% Less gaming revenue + Higher ASPs = Significantly lower shipment counts.
And this is compared with AMD that had 5-7% share LMAO.
Don't worry though, no one wants RDNA4 so it will remain abundantly available as the existing inventory isn't selling.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
I've kind of lost interest now that consoles are going back to the whole exclusives thing. I'm waiting for the ps6, but if I can't hold out, I might grab a ps5.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
I suspect Super release means 2028 for 6000 series, which is also ok. I have a 5080 as well and it's not going to be worth it trying to sell the thing and upgrade for just more VRAM.with 6000 series next year, i'll happily wait it out on my 5080. zen 6 with 6080 next year will be all i need to play GTA6 in its full glory
Bojji
Member
in modern games, RTX20 beat the GTX10 easily
Here we see 2080Ti 48% faster than 1080Ti.
By estimation, it would make 2080S at least ~30% faster than 1080Ti
Gothic Remake Performance Review: 500+ Benchmarks with 62 CPUs, 40 GPUs and Linux
How well does the Gothic Remake run on current graphics cards? We ran extensive benchmarks, including on Linux.www.pcgameshardware.de
I think in new games even 2070 beats 1080ti.
Turing was first nvidia modern architecture designed to use DX12 in a good way (Maxwell and Pascal sucked with async for example), even 16xx Turing cards (that don't have RT and DLSS support) outperform Pascal cards (too bad they are vram limited).
That would be taking the 8GB 5060ti and just changing the four 3GB memory chips and leaving the back unpopulated.
As I replied to someone else. I'm taking about the "move to 9GB" on the 5050/5060. That would require going to just three 3GB chips. Which is only a 96-bit memory interface versus four memory chips on a 128-bit interface.
I guess if you consider sub 30 fps on the 2080ti at 1080p being playable.in modern games, RTX20 beat the GTX10 easily
Here we see 2080Ti 48% faster than 1080Ti.
By estimation, it would make 2080S at least ~30% faster than 1080Ti
Gothic Remake Performance Review: 500+ Benchmarks with 62 CPUs, 40 GPUs and Linux
How well does the Gothic Remake run on current graphics cards? We ran extensive benchmarks, including on Linux.
NVIDIA backported raytracing to GTX 10. So games with it can run, but they are terrible compared to GPUs with dedicated hardware to handle it. The fact that the 1080ti is neck and neck with the 2070 for things it was never designed to run is even more impressive.
IMO, the point still stands. RTX 20 didn't offer anything to compel people to upgrade from the GTX 10 card. The 3080ti is a 50% increase in performance over the 2080ti on that game you linked. Yet still below the 60fps most PC games want at 1080p. If you are going for what games can you get going on ancient hardware, there are many surprises. But you are comparing 8 year old hardware to 10 year old.
Of course we also need to look at how the game performs on modern hardware, and well it's not looking good. The 5070ti is 60fps... at 1080p. Go to 1440p and you are sub 50fps. Looks like an unoptimized turd to me.
COPE LMAO.
The reason this is happening is because Jensen, in his infinite wisdom, decided to reduce NVL VR200 Memory usage.
It went from 21TB HBM4 + 55TB LPDDR5X to 21TB + 27.5GB LPDDR5X.
The AI spending/ Nvidia revenue itself hasn't changed, but rather Nvidia will ship more systems at lower prices and memory demand has decreased.
The decision was made partly because 55TB was overkill for most use cases but mostly because Jensen decided that gamers deserved to exist. Even though prices aren't that high below 5070 Ti, Gamers are complaining about RAM/SSD prices. And those complaining gamers are derailing his narrative.
If Jensen had for example increased it to 74TB LP5X, you'd be lucky to get an 8GB dGPU lmao.
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AtomicStarving
Member
Launches a new video card > releases totally poorly optimized games to justify the investment >>> games look the same with an inferior card... NVIDIA can no longer hide the "scam" 
Gubaldo
Member
5090 ultra would be better.
ask NV for 5090 ultra
Bojji
Member
Launches a new video card > releases totally poorly optimized games to justify the investment >>> games look the same with an inferior card... NVIDIA can no longer hide the "scam"
Games that run like shit on PC also run like shit on consoles (98% of the time).
TheRaidenPT
Member
Doubt they would release Super at this point, unless the DDR price comes down.
I'm going to ride my 5090 till I can, the reason I bought it was to brute force every damm unoptimised game for the next few years at 4K DLSS 4.5 Performance.
I'm going to ride my 5090 till I can, the reason I bought it was to brute force every damm unoptimised game for the next few years at 4K DLSS 4.5 Performance.
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Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
Why would I do that, just turns a single post into a wall of text.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
I suppose it'll be similar to RDNA3. Tbh I think RDNA has always been absolute trash compared the RTX but I would be happy to see people buy 9060s and 9070s simply because they are affordable.AMD expects 20% decline in gaming revenue from 'higher memory and component costs' in the second half of the year — CEO Lisa Su warns of further memory crunch
The memory squeeze hits the balance sheet.www.tomshardware.com
20% Less gaming revenue + Higher ASPs = Significantly lower shipment counts.
And this is compared with AMD that had 5-7% share LMAO.
Don't worry though, no one wants RDNA4 so it will remain abundantly available as the existing inventory isn't selling.
AtomicStarving
Member
Great, you've only further validated my point.
