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RTX 50 Super Series back in development

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Jensen seems to have decided that consumers deserve more memory. This is only possible because as semi analysis reported, Nvidia decided to lower NVL72 VR200 LPDDR5X capacity from 55TB to 28TB. Freeing up 1.5B GBs of memory.

RTX SUPER SKU Specs:
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(This includes my expectation that RTX 5080/5060 Ti 8GB will be discontinued given the leaked SKUs)
 
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Now watch as AMD influencers (AMDUB, MLID, Vex, etc) and YTB Drama whores (GN, J2Z, etc) complain about it regardless to poison the well. Without mentioning that AMD is cutting RDNA4 shipments hard as Lisa Su indicated last earnings call.

(Since existing inventory isn't selling).

Personally I wish 5060 Ti 16GB is downgraded to 12GB to free up memory to upgrade 5050/5060 8GB to 9GB.

Nevertheless, Jensen is saving gamers even when it's not the correct business decision.

Jensen and Gabe are PC Gaming.
 
Now watch as AMD influencers (AMDUB, MLID, Vex, etc) and YTB Drama whores (GN, J2Z, etc) complain about it regardless to poison the well. Without mentioning that AMD is cutting RDNA4 shipments hard as Lisa Su indicated last earnings call.

(Since existing inventory isn't selling).

Personally I wish 5060 Ti 16GB is downgraded to 12GB to free up memory to upgrade 5050/5060 8GB to 9GB.

Nevertheless, Jensen is saving gamers even when it's not the correct business decision.

Jensen and Gabe are PC Gaming.
NOOOOOOOO AMD IS WHOLESOME 100 CHUNGUS FOR REAL GAMERS NOOOOOOOOOOO
 
Now watch as AMD influencers (AMDUB, MLID, Vex, etc) and YTB Drama whores (GN, J2Z, etc) complain about it regardless to poison the well. Without mentioning that AMD is cutting RDNA4 shipments hard as Lisa Su indicated last earnings call.

(Since existing inventory isn't selling).

Personally I wish 5060 Ti 16GB is downgraded to 12GB to free up memory to upgrade 5050/5060 8GB to 9GB.

Nevertheless, Jensen is saving gamers even when it's not the correct business decision.

Jensen and Gabe are PC Gaming.
Leonidas Leonidas wishes he could be like you. Probably has your poster up on his wall.
 
Now watch as AMD influencers (AMDUB, MLID, Vex, etc) and YTB Drama whores (GN, J2Z, etc) complain about it regardless to poison the well. Without mentioning that AMD is cutting RDNA4 shipments hard as Lisa Su indicated last earnings call.

(Since existing inventory isn't selling).

Personally I wish 5060 Ti 16GB is downgraded to 12GB to free up memory to upgrade 5050/5060 8GB to 9GB.

Nevertheless, Jensen is saving gamers even when it's not the correct business decision.

Jensen and Gabe are PC Gaming.

I haven't been following the details here, but if you are saying RDNA4 hasn't been selling out, then why would it be a problem if AMD reduces shipments?

Also, AMD not killing it is a separate issue from the value proposition of the 5000 Super series. If the value proposition sucks, are tech reviewers not supposed to talk about it?

Two things can be true at the same time - one does not cancel out the other.
 
Now watch as AMD influencers (AMDUB, MLID, Vex, etc) and YTB Drama whores (GN, J2Z, etc) complain about it regardless to poison the well. Without mentioning that AMD is cutting RDNA4 shipments hard as Lisa Su indicated last earnings call.

(Since existing inventory isn't selling).

Personally I wish 5060 Ti 16GB is downgraded to 12GB to free up memory to upgrade 5050/5060 8GB to 9GB.

Nevertheless, Jensen is saving gamers even when it's not the correct business decision.

Jensen and Gabe are PC Gaming.
Amd influencers lol. You really believe this stuff, or you just trolling?
 


Jensen seems to have decided that consumers deserve more memory. This is only possible because as semi analysis reported, Nvidia decided to lower NVL72 VR200 LPDDR5X capacity from 55TB to 28TB. Freeing up 1.5B GBs of memory.

RTX SUPER SKU Specs:
VZGMa22.png


(This includes my expectation that RTX 5080/5060 Ti 8GB will be discontinued given the leaked SKUs)


Where's sources for all of this?
 
Personally I wish 5060 Ti 16GB is downgraded to 12GB to free up memory to upgrade 5050/5060 8GB to 9GB.
Wouldn't that need a completely new chip design? Right now they have 128-bit memory interfaces so need four 32-bit memory chips. Going from 2GB to 3GB modules would require an adjustment to being 96-bit. That's a bit hit to bandwidth.

And not even taking into account that the 5050 is a GDDR6 card versus GDDR7. Do 3GB GDDR6 modules even exist?

I don't think the 1GB of extra memory would buy you anything versus the 25% hit to memory bandwidth.
 
I haven't been following the details here, but if you are saying RDNA4 hasn't been selling out, then why would it be a problem if AMD reduces shipments?
I don't think there is an issue per say.

The issue in the market is supply not meeting demand leading to elevated prices. Nvidia is helping here and AMD isn't.
 
Wouldn't that need a completely new chip design? Right now they have 128-bit memory interfaces so need four 32-bit memory chips. Going from 2GB to 3GB modules would require an adjustment to being 96-bit. That's a bit hit to bandwidth.

And not even taking into account that the 5050 is a GDDR6 card versus GDDR7. Do 3GB GDDR6 modules even exist?

I don't think the 1GB of extra memory would buy you anything versus the 25% hit to memory bandwidth.
Nope, 128-bit bus with 3GB modules means 12GB VRAM.

Currently with 4x2GB modules they result in 8GB (16GB version uses clamshell design with 8 modules).

3GB modules are already used in 5090 laptop version.
 
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Wouldn't that need a completely new chip design?
GDDR7 3GB ICs
Right now they have 128-bit memory interfaces so need four 32-bit memory chips. Going from 2GB to 3GB modules would require an adjustment to being 96-bit.
not really, they can do 4 x 3GB to get to 12GB. The 9GB SKUs were about trying to optimize cost. But they backed off on that for now.
Where's sources for all of this?
MEGASIZEDgpu is the source. Obviously.
 
I don't think there is an issue per say.

The issue in the market is supply not meeting demand leading to elevated prices. Nvidia is helping here and AMD isn't.
Uh...how is Nvidia helping if they haven't been producing enough cards to meet demand and thus bring prices down?

And how is AMD not helping when they've been producing enough that they now have stock sitting around unsold? What would you expect AMD to do differently?
 
Uh...how is Nvidia helping if they haven't been producing enough cards to meet demand and thus bring prices down?

And how is AMD not helping when they've been producing enough that they now have stock sitting around unsold? What would you expect AMD to do differently?
Is NVIDIA not meeting demand? I can easily go to multiple webstores and order one. The problem is price due to the jump in memory prices.

I'm not clear on current GDDR7 prices. But the DDR5 used in modern desktops increased $150-200 for a 16GB kit.

May of last year I bought a 32GB SODIMM kit for $70, it's now $570. I also bought a 64GB SODIMM kit for $144, that's now $730.
 
Uh...how is Nvidia helping if they haven't been producing enough cards to meet demand and thus bring prices down?
Because their cut is 10-15% vs AMD that's basically going to zero. And now with NVL72 VR200 LPDDR5X downgrade, Nvidia makes the ultimate sacrifice to free up memory for gamers and N1X.

Nvidia is our friend.
 
I think it's pretty unlikely that Nvidia will actually release a Super series. I mean, what's the point? They're already swimming in money thanks to their AI business, and gaming isn't nearly as big a money maker for them anymore.
 
Is NVIDIA not meeting demand? I can easily go to multiple webstores and order one. The problem is price due to the jump in memory prices.

I'm not clear on current GDDR7 prices. But the DDR5 used in modern desktops increased $150-200 for a 16GB kit.

May of last year I bought a 32GB SODIMM kit for $70, it's now $570. I also bought a 64GB SODIMM kit for $144, that's now $730.

That's my point - demand is only being met by prices being wildly inflated above their previous norms. They aren't producing enough to meet demand at what the majority of potential buyers would consider reasonable prices. So what is Nvidia doing about that, if anything? How are they "helping"?

If the Super series is going to reduce the street price of each tier of gaming GPU by 15% or more and supply enough stock that it doesn't sell out and stay sold out, then great. But is anyone thinking that's how the 5000 Super series will go?

I'm expecting prices will be as high or even higher.
 
Are you really denying the numerous YouTubers dedicated to prop up AMD and shit on Nvidia at every corners, or you just trolling?
I am watching multiple of those youtubers and they critizise both amd and nvidia. You must be blind or deaf to not see this. Neither company is exactly covering itself in glory.

And taking anything negative said about your favorite plastic card personally is silly.
 
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The tweet in OP.
Okay, and where does

Jensen seems to have decided that consumers deserve more memory. This is only possible because as semi analysis reported, Nvidia decided to lower NVL72 VR200 LPDDR5X capacity from 55TB to 28TB. Freeing up 1.5B GBs of memory.

RTX SUPER SKU Specs:
VZGMa22.png


(This includes my expectation that RTX 5080/5060 Ti 8GB will be discontinued given the leaked SKUs)

come from?
 
That's my point - demand is only being met by prices being wildly inflated above their previous norms. They aren't producing enough to meet demand at what the majority of potential buyers would consider reasonable prices. So what is Nvidia doing about that, if anything? How are they "helping"?

If the Super series is going to reduce the street price of each tier of gaming GPU by 15% or more and supply enough stock that it doesn't sell out and stay sold out, then great. But is anyone thinking that's how the 5000 Super series will go?

I'm expecting prices will be as high or even higher.
The prices aren't inflated due to low supply, it's due to BOM increases. There's also been consistent sales over the past two or so months dropping cards back to the old MSRP or $20 or so over.

A Super series won't have some magical lower price than existing model right now. The issue is the cost of parts to make the cards. Not demand buying out the MSRP models so only the overprice models are on shelves.
 
The prices aren't inflated due to low supply, it's due to BOM increases. There's also been consistent sales over the past two or so months dropping cards back to the old MSRP or $20 or so over.

Where have you seen a 5090 going for $1999 - $2019? Every place I have looked they are at least $3700.
 
In Czechia there are a lot of MSI Suprims 5090 in stock relatively cheap 4200€. Might take two or three at that price.
 
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Way to pull out the 5090 in a discussion about 5050 and 5060 cards. I yield to your superior ability of being able to read a room.

Yeah, that's a fair criticism. I wasn't trying to twist the conversation in a direction just to score points. I bring up the 5090 because it's the most desirable 5000 series card, and the only one I'm personally interested in. The 5080 being less than a 4090 was a big nope for me.

If the 50 and 60 Super cards can bring some relief to the wider customer base that wants them, that certainly will be a good thing. I hope they can do that. I just have my doubts that the cards will be any cheaper, or have any more stock available. What gamers really need is both of those things at the same time.
 
I am watching multiple of those youtubers and they critizise both amd and nvidia. You must be blind or deaf to not see this. Neither company is exactly covering itself in glory.

And taking anything negative said about your favorite plastic card personally is silly.

Meme Lol GIF by ALL SEEING EYES


Ah yes, those unbiased channels that talk about AMD all the time 15-30 mins videos long about how the next iteration will kill Nvidia, for real this type, be hyped and subscribe! The MLID, Gamer meld, redgamingtech of this world that are so critical of AMD (as much as Nvidia right?)

Reminder of their content, from his fucking thumbnail :

7kYYlXD.png


Without going into that yes, gamersnexus and hardware unboxed can critique AMD but nowhere near the same level as they do with Nvidia. Don't be fucking silly.

Is there a single popular techtuber that is trying to make an Nvidia church? No. AMD is a fucking cult, end of story. ~2% market share and loudest of them all on youtube/reddit.
 
When we thought these was supposed to come out early 2026, I was considering selling one of my 5090's and replace it with a 5080 Super, as it's only connected to a 120hz TV and often a bit overkill in that regard, but I think i'll keep it and see what happens with the 60-series.

Good to see more VRAM for the lower end versions!
 
The 24gb RTX 5080 is what I wanted but it feels kinda too late at this point right?
Blackwell is old now and has been out for 1.5 years at this point.
If we get the Super refresh then I guess the RTX 60 series isn't coming any time soon but on the other hand my RTX 3090 is still getting the job done for now and I'm already kinda over Blackwell at this point. I imagine the RTX 5080 Super will sell for the old RTX 5090 MSRP.
But we shall see...
 
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Who the hell is MegasizeGPU?

He/She leaked multiple things correctly in the past (and some rumors were bad as well but I think credibility is above average for this one).

24GB GPUs are the ultimate future proof against next gen consoles (16GB might be the new 8GB few years from now).
 
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Meme Lol GIF by ALL SEEING EYES


Ah yes, those unbiased channels that talk about AMD all the time 15-30 mins videos long about how the next iteration will kill Nvidia, for real this type, be hyped and subscribe! The MLID, Gamer meld, redgamingtech of this world that are so critical of AMD (as much as Nvidia right?)

Reminder of their content, from his fucking thumbnail :

7kYYlXD.png


Without going into that yes, gamersnexus and hardware unboxed can critique AMD but nowhere near the same level as they do with Nvidia. Don't be fucking silly.

Is there a single popular techtuber that is trying to make an Nvidia church? No. AMD is a fucking cult, end of story. ~2% market share and loudest of them all on youtube/reddit.
MLID, Gamer meld, redgamingtech. Ok, i must say i dont know any of those. I am watching Hardware unboxed, Gamers Nexus, yaystwocents and i have seen some of the Vex videos.

Haven't you noticed the months of criticism regarding FSR4 support for older AMD cards. Or does that not count?
 
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He/She leaked multiple things correctly in the past (and some rumors were bad as well but I think credibility is above average for this one).
Credibility is higher than say MLID about Nvidia. For Nvidia it's really Kopite/MEGASIZEDGPU who are reliable.
 
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