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[M1chl]

So again some RT video about XSS in WD: Legions. Pretty interesting how it runs, honestly it looks like 900p seems pretty "soft", but nonetheless not exactly expected...from my side at least.

Bigger question if we are heading towards the "watery worlds" in this gen, because I don't need shine everywhere, where it does not belong. Seems like the first HDR era as in "over bright".

 

[Birdo]

It is, considering the price.

It's only really the small SSD that lets Series S down.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

The way this game looks on Series S remind me of that one time when I was lubbing key switches and lube tube exploded on my monitor.

 

[M1chl]

It is, considering the price.

It's only really the small SSD that lets Series S down.

Yeah, but you are also downloading smaller filesized games. Well at least in some cases.

 

[Sw0pDiller]

I am at the point that i would not recognise raytraced refections by itself from some other effects that mimics it. Just like the guy in this video is saying (around 5.30) not know his stuff either. But nice to see a 30/1080p getting these effects. curious to see how the xbox one x holds up to series S footage. it's really not that great that this "next gen" machine is running it's games @1080p while i think current gen consoles will be at the same-isch level.

 

[MrLove]

Looks so bad on my 4k TV. Awful image quality

 

[SkylineRKR]

Yeah, but you are also downloading smaller filesized games. Well at least in some cases.

I think Forza Horizon 4 was about 10gb smaller or so. Its not a huge lot, but it might add up if you have a handful of games installed. The size IS the systems biggest bottleneck I believe, though I also think people overstate this. I could do fine for about 2 years on my PS4 with 400gb before I chucked in 2tb, and next-gen games seem to be smaller here and there. Ofcourse, there is also BC at play. How many games do you want to have installed at the same time?

 

[Senua]

Looks so bad on my 4k TV. Awful image quality

Yea it's not really for 4k tvs

 

[Codeblew]

Looks so bad on my 4k TV. Awful image quality

Looks pretty ass on my 1080p monitor as well.

 

[Rikkori]

Bigger question if we are heading towards the "watery worlds" in this gen, because I don't need shine everywhere, where it does not belong. Seems like the first HDR era as in "over bright".

It looks natural at high resolution, the scene looks great - just normal after the rain environment (I mean the way it is set-up). Problem is when you have low res + low q RT + ssr blending it can look pretty bad. Heck, even just turning reflections on ultra can be worse than high here because of the extra noisiness (for SSR).
Remember, we think it's all "water worlds" now because we're not used to have reflectivity at this level, so it immediately stands out while in the real world it just "blends in" and you won't notice. But go out and be observant especially after a rain and you'll immediately realise just how much reflectivity there is in real life.

 

[M1chl]

It looks natural at high resolution, the scene looks great - just normal after the rain environment (I mean the way it is set-up). Problem is when you have low res + low q RT + ssr blending it can look pretty bad. Heck, even just turning reflections on ultra can be worse than high here because of the extra noisiness (for SSR).
Remember, we think it's all "water worlds" now because we're not used to have reflectivity at this level, so it immediately stands out while in the real world it just "blends in" and you won't notice. But go out and be observant especially after a rain and you'll immediately realise just how much reflectivity there is in real life.

Yeah I even sometimes look at some shadow in real life and for a moment think that is some shitty shadow and then it hits me : D I mean yea you are probably right, but the issue I think lays in overly greyish art direction with this game.

 

[Rikkori]

Yeah I even sometimes look at some shadow in real life and for a moment think that is some shitty shadow and then it hits me : D I mean yea you are probably right, but the issue I think lays in overly greyish art direction with this game.

Yeah, ngl, ever since I got into RT and display tech I examine everything outside for light, shadows, and black levels & brightness - LOL!

 

[The_Mike]

It is, considering the price.

It's only really the small SSD that lets Series S down.

Thankfully there are consoles that supports external drives.

 

[Black_Stride]

Looks so bad on my 4k TV. Awful image quality

If you bought this thing for your 4K TV and care that much about IQ, you probably need to reevaluate your decision making skills.

 

[Bonfires Down]

Looks so bad on my 4k TV. Awful image quality

That's largely down to the AA solution in this game.

 

[bender]

The way this game looks on Series S remind me of that one time when I was lubbing key switches and lube tube exploded on my monitor.

I've never heard watching porn described like this.

 

[skneogaf]

I've seen comments about how bad it looks from obvious fanatics due to it being lower resolution yet your only choice of console had 1440p resolution yet I'm quite confident those games didn't look bad.

Embarrassing as usual, you fanatics really need to try owning both consoles this time as you may end up not being morons in the future.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Looks pretty ass on my 1080p monitor as well.

Because youtube videos look like arse.

Pretty embarrassing posts in here from the usual team. 1080p now looks terrible, but in the other next gen topics we've got people asking for 1080p instead of 4K since 4K is a waste of resources lol.

Hopefully this shows people that the Series S is not the underpowered box that people have tried to make it out to be. Like some of us said, it's just a lower resolution Series X. Can the 4TF PS4 Pro or 6TF XB1X do ray tracing at 1080p, or even at all? Nope.

Also wtf in the video about people complaining that you can't turn it off? lol. Why would you want to turn off ray tracing? It looks better in every way than other reflections and lighting.

 

[Codeblew]

Because youtube videos look like arse.

Pretty embarrassing posts in here from the usual team. 1080p now looks terrible, but in the other next gen topics we've got people asking for 1080p instead of 4K since 4K is a waste of resources lol.

Hopefully this shows people that the Series S is not the underpowered box that people have tried to make it out to be. Like some of us said, it's just a lower resolution Series X. Can the 4TF PS4 Pro or 6TF XB1X do ray tracing at 1080p, or even at all? Nope.

Also wtf in the video about people complaining that you can't turn it off? lol. Why would you want to turn off ray tracing? It looks better in every way than other reflections and lighting.

Well, what I said wasn't wrong. lol. You don't sound very "fun" to be around.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Well, what I said wasn't wrong. lol. You don't sound very "fun" to be around.

Watching a video on youtube isn't the same as having the game running natively.

 

[Craig of War]

I've seen comments about how bad it looks from obvious fanatics due to it being lower resolution yet your only choice of console had 1440p resolution yet I'm quite confident those games didn't look bad.

Embarrassing as usual, you fanatics really need to try owning both consoles this time as you may end up not being morons in the future.

Damn bro go easy on them with the facts.

 

[ipukespiders]

The way this game looks on Series S remind me of that one time when I was lubbing key switches and lube tube exploded on my monitor.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/what-yall-doing-for-no-nut-november.1574435/

 

[Plantoid]

It's easy to bash the series s here, this is a enthusiast gaming forum, we aren't the target audience for this product

I work at sales and I guarantee you that series S will sell a lot, most parents just want something cheap for their kids, most people don't even know what 4k is, let alone RT

 

[Insane Metal]

Nice that the lower end console has this feature. Neat. Since it's not aimed at 4K TVs this will be pretty useful for 1080p tv owners. RT is a must IMO.

 

[BeardGawd]

I am really impressed with the ray tracing here and it’s even on an open world game. Just goes to show there is no reason why Capcom excluded a ray tracing mode. But with Capcom and Sony being buddy buddy most of the time I guess minimum xbox effort is to be expected Sadly.

 

[Jigsaah]

the aesthetic of the game in general makes it difficult to appreciate the quality of RTX. Some games just shouldn't have RTX

 

[Warnen]

For casuals that don’t buy into having to have the best of something, this box is gonna be great.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

MIcrosoft is going to sell a shitload of these consoles. Smart move.

A lot of people will end up double dipping with a series x down the road as well.

 

[ReBurn]

It's easy to bash the series s here, this is a enthusiast gaming forum, we aren't the target audience for this product

I work at sales and I guarantee you that series S will sell a lot, most parents just want something cheap for their kids, most people don't even know what 4k is, let alone RT

tbh, I expect some videos to hit YouTube this Christmas where little Johnny had a meltdown because he asked for series x and got a series s instead, kind of like the freakouts when little Mary gets the regular iPhone instead of the pro model

 

[Bo_Hazem]

It looks ok, raytracing looks pretty low, something around 480p for reflections at 2:54?

 

[Ascend]

If the XSS can do RT, it bodes well for AMD's 6800 series graphics cards.

 

[Portugeezer]

Looks so bad on my 4k TV. Awful image quality

Looks bad on my 1080p, I wonder if this is locked 1080p or dynamic? Looks a bit blurry.

 

[NullZ3r0]

It is, considering the price.

It's only really the small SSD that lets Series S down.

Temporary problem. Buy a USB drive for now.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Looks bad on my 1080p, I wonder if this is locked 1080p or dynamic? Looks a bit blurry.

You do understand that you're watching a youtube video, don't you? It's not the actual game.

 

[OsirisBlack]

I think it’s a pretty sizable feat for this machine despite the low resolution

 

[Qaloon]

It looks pretty cool, I must admit. I didn't expect to see this tech leveraged like this on the lower-end model. Perhaps we'll see more sophisticated and selective applications in the future when teams become more adept at using the feature.

 

[Neo_game]

If SX drops to 1440P in the night time I doubt SS can handle this at 1080P.

 

[tasos]

Looks good to me . For the price , even great .

 

[MrFunSocks]

I think it’s a pretty sizable feat for this machine despite the low resolution

It’s the resolution the console was made for, and having ray tracing at that target resolution is quite frankly incredible in a 4TF machine. MS knew what they were doing. Unsurprisingly armchair hardware architects and software devs in gaf didn’t.

 

[DarkMage619]

Because youtube videos look like arse.

Pretty embarrassing posts in here from the usual team. 1080p now looks terrible, but in the other next gen topics we've got people asking for 1080p instead of 4K since 4K is a waste of resources lol.

Hopefully this shows people that the Series S is not the underpowered box that people have tried to make it out to be. Like some of us said, it's just a lower resolution Series X. Can the 4TF PS4 Pro or 6TF XB1X do ray tracing at 1080p, or even at all? Nope.

Also wtf in the video about people complaining that you can't turn it off? lol. Why would you want to turn off ray tracing? It looks better in every way than other reflections and lighting.

I want to hear from the X1X can run games better than the XSS crowd. Show me some ray tracing on the X1X. This game is on the X1X it should have ray tracing because it's more powerful right?

 

[FlyyGOD]

I want to hear from the X1X can run games better than the XSS crowd. Show me some ray tracing on the X1X. This game is on the X1X it should have ray tracing because it's more powerful right?

Ubisoft has already shown the Series x version with Raytracing.

 

[MrFunSocks]

Ubisoft has already shown the Series x version with Raytracing.

Xbox one x, not Series X. People on here have been spreading FUD that the one x is more powerful than the Series S, so where is the ray tracing on the one x current gen version?

 

[Ic3man]

Fantastic console for the price, I'm sure it's going to sell a lot.

 

[ZywyPL]

Pretty embarrassing posts in here from the usual team. 1080p now looks terrible, but in the other next gen topics we've got people asking for 1080p instead of 4K since 4K is a waste of resources lol.

Hypocrisy and double standards are huge components of fanboyism you know.

Can the 4TF PS4 Pro or 6TF XB1X do ray tracing at 1080p, or even at all? Nope.

Just like I said on the other Series S thread, the console is better than all current-gen consoles combined, I really don't see a single reason people with FullHD TV sets should choose 1X/Pro over the XSS.

 

[Duchess]

Off-topic: is that Cannon Street tube station at 2:54? Always like it when games in the UK and have locations I can recognise.

(reference image: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/can...tral-railway-terminus-connected-111767282.jpg)

 

[v_iHuGi]

720/900p no doubt but still Insane, no one would believe in 2018 that a 4TF gpu would do RTX, let alone at 299€.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Once this new generation is finished I never want to see another in game puddle for as long as I live...

 

[Cato]

You do understand that you're watching a youtube video, don't you? It's not the actual game.

You know youtube has different quality settings? The DemonSouls videos on youtube do not look blurry.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

Once this new generation is finished I never want to see another in game puddle for as long as I live...

Don't go outside then.

 

[MrFunSocks]

You know youtube has different quality settings? The DemonSouls videos on youtube do not look blurry.

And the quality of this video is shocking. It’s also never going to be as good as directly plugging in a console. It’s not lossless and it won’t be at the same bitrate.