Of course the 2 questions are
how much does it cost?
Can you actually get one at release?
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Of course the 2 questions are
how much does it cost?
Can you actually get one at release?
Armorian
Banned
FullMetalx117
Member
Guys - I need a recommendation. In the market for a very high end gaming machine/workstation. I can get 10940x for $700 at Microcenter. Would you still recommend getting 10900k?
Armorian
Banned
FullMetalx117
Member
It will be a completely new build so I don’t. I assume the x299 mobos will also be discounted since it’s last gen. I don’t plan to do many upgrades down the line. Just want the highest end components today for a good deal + 3090. The 10940x for $700 is a good deal no?
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That's my guess as well. Admittedly from my point of view $400 for a card that's probably about as good as a 2080 super seems like a pretty decent deal. Not as good as a 3080 or 6800xt but given the price not a bad trade off.
mitchman
Gold Member
If you want the highest end, then you want the 5900x or 5950x for best performance.
TyphoonStruggle
Member
I suggest you look into a Ryzen 5900x for productivity. If you absolutely need more cores then go with a Ryzen 5950x.
Unknown Soldier
Member
HEDT has been made completely obsolete by Ryzen.
existensmaximum
Member
Ah, seems like I'm getting an RTX 3080 delivered January 4! I wonder if I can get someone to exchange my RTX 3070 for a PS5 when I upgrade, instead of selling it... 
(Who am I kidding..)
(Who am I kidding..
)
Patrick S.
Banned
4x ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo in stock on Amazon.de right now. €1.046,85, though.
Edit: Two still available, and the price has dropped to €1.041,60. Man, this shit is so weird.
Edit: Two still available, and the price has dropped to €1.041,60. Man, this shit is so weird.
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nemiroff
Gold Member
Wtf Nvidia...
wccftech.com
NVIDIA Allegedly Sold $175 Million Worth of Ampere GeForce RTX 30 GPUs To Crypto Miners, Could Be A Contributing Factor Behind Immense Shortages
Financial analysts have suggested that NVIDIA sold $175 Million worth of GeForce RTX 30 Ampere gaming GPUs to crypto miners.
wccftech.com
Wtf Nvidia...
NVIDIA Allegedly Sold $175 Million Worth of Ampere GeForce RTX 30 GPUs To Crypto Miners, Could Be A Contributing Factor Behind Immense Shortages
Financial analysts have suggested that NVIDIA sold $175 Million worth of GeForce RTX 30 Ampere gaming GPUs to crypto miners.
Just like the scalping discussion going on in other threads. This isnt illegal but its really disheartening.
existensmaximum
Member
Boy oh boy, I'm ready for Cyberpunk!
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Dr.D00p
Member
It's not a question of whether You're ready, but is the game ready....A game as big and as complex as CP 2077 is going to need a huge amount of post release work to fix all the inevitable bugs.
existensmaximum
Member
So true. Right now I want to stay positive though!
Pagusas
Elden Member
Man it raining hardware at my house! Got my 3090 in a few weeks ago, and today my back ordered MSI Tomahawk 570x, Asus Dark Hero, and AMD 5950 all shipped!
not sure which board I’m going to keep,I like MSI’s bios better, and the tomahawk is an insane value at $200, but the Dark Hero just has EVERYTHING including passive chipset cooling and makes one wet to look at. Choices choices.
not sure which board I’m going to keep,I like MSI’s bios better, and the tomahawk is an insane value at $200, but the Dark Hero just has EVERYTHING including passive chipset cooling and makes one wet to look at. Choices choices.
Tiamat2san
Member
I ordered a new PC for my son.
I9 10900F, 16 Gb (2 X 8gb G skill aegis) of ram and a 3070.
Motherboard, MSI Z490 A-pro
Fan , Dark rock 4.
500gb nvme SSD + 2tb HDD
Corsair 750w power supply.
3080 is just too fucking expensive right now.
it should be good enough for 1440p 120fps, I think.
or do you think a 3080 is needed?
I9 10900F, 16 Gb (2 X 8gb G skill aegis) of ram and a 3070.
Motherboard, MSI Z490 A-pro
Fan , Dark rock 4.
500gb nvme SSD + 2tb HDD
Corsair 750w power supply.
3080 is just too fucking expensive right now.
it should be good enough for 1440p 120fps, I think.
or do you think a 3080 is needed?
Armorian
Banned
For 1440p? Nope... at least for next ~2 years (maybe vram will become the problem).
Too bad you had to go Intel, no Zen 3 cpus?
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Prebuilt? If not, swap that intel out for an AMD 5600X. Otherwise, good for 1440p. 120fps, maybe.
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grfunkulus
Banned
if you're going for framerate above all, just knock down a few settings in a couple years. The power of 3070 is great right now but in order to run console-level settings on AAA games at 100fps+, the performance of the 3070 is going to be the bigger constraining factor than the VRAM (aka, you're never going to get 100fps+ at pc high/ultra on those titles in two years anyway, whether you have the VRAM or not). It's a fine choice. I'm going to be doing the same, albeit target 4k 100fps+ with my 4k 120hz monitor and 3080
In the Techpowerup review, the 3070 averages 125 FPS at 1440p:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition Review - Disruptive Price-Performance
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 is faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, for $500. The new FE cooler is greatly improved, runs very quietly, and even has fan stop. In our RTX 3070 Founders Edition review, we'll also take a look at RTX performance, energy efficiency, frametimes, and overclocking.
However, already in cross-gen games like WD:L and AC:V, it drops into the 70s or below at max settings. So you will likely need to reduce the settings and/or enable DLSS for 120 FPS.
sendit
Member
The 10900F and the 5600x are a wash (with most games performing better on the i9 10900F). He doesn't need to do that.
Tiamat2san
Member
Thanks, well he plays only multiplayer games like COD, valorant, CS, Apex.In the Techpowerup review, the 3070 averages 125 FPS at 1440p:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Founders Edition Review - Disruptive Price-Performance
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3070 is faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, for $500. The new FE cooler is greatly improved, runs very quietly, and even has fan stop. In our RTX 3070 Founders Edition review, we'll also take a look at RTX performance, energy efficiency, frametimes, and overclocking.www.techpowerup.com
However, already in cross-gen games like WD:L and AC:V, it drops into the 70s or below at max settings. So you will likely need to reduce the settings and/or enable DLSS for 120 FPS.
he is my total opposite since I only value single player games.
The only common game is Gears 5.
édit: i don’t know how to multi quote on mobile...
For the processor , I hesitated a lot, I saw the benchmarks but I had a trouble history with amd ones.
i think he’ll need to upgrade cooling system this summer.
And it’s a gift from my wife and me for Christmas , we put 2000€ for this, he’ll buy the rest later.
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Allnamestakenlol
Member
Holy shit. That's nuts.Wtf Nvidia...
NVIDIA Allegedly Sold $175 Million Worth of Ampere GeForce RTX 30 GPUs To Crypto Miners, Could Be A Contributing Factor Behind Immense Shortages
Financial analysts have suggested that NVIDIA sold $175 Million worth of GeForce RTX 30 Ampere gaming GPUs to crypto miners.
eSports games should be no problem for a 3070.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Got my 3090 and ready for Cyberpunk, LETS GOT BAYBEEEEEEEE!
ZywyPL
Banned
I'd swap the CPU for something cheaper and get the 3080 instead, like i7 or something, those extra 2 cores won't give you a single FPS more, as oppose a beefier GPU.
Armorian
Banned
Patrick S.
Banned
Aesius
Member
Undervolting the 3080 is an absolute no-brainer. I capped mine at 800mv and 1800 mhz. Essentially zero performance decrease (maybe 2-3 FPS?) and now it draws 250w MAX under full load. Stays under 70c with auto fan settings. Quiet as hell. Seems Nvidia screwed up with default settings on these.
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TyphoonStruggle
Member
There’s no reason for him to do that if he already ordered/has the 10900. The 10900 will give him great gaming performance.
Tiamat2san
Member
It’s just 100€ less for an i7 and really more than 100€ more for a 3080.
And it’s a gift.
If I would build a PC for myself, I’ll wait a little and go for a 3080 or even a 3090 even if maybe it’s not worth the price difference.
But I am a console guy (so PS5 and Xbox Series X for me)
His last PC was an omen laptop (15’’) with 1070.
I took a 27’’ 1440p /144hz HDR LG monitor + a razer black widow ultimate to go along with it. (I would have go for an hyper X if it was for me)
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existensmaximum
Member
Have you experienced a significant performance boost?I am such a dumbass. Sold my TUF 3080 and got this
Armorian
Banned
How could he? It's the same GPU just with 20% more active cores that translate to over 10% more game performance. But in VRAM department it's much better, at least until (cheaper) 3080ti arrives.
existensmaximum
Member
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Allnamestakenlol
Member
How high are people seeing their 3080's boosting w/o overclocking? I've been noticing my evga has been jumping up as high as 1995mhz, which is a nice bump over advertised.
GaviotaGrande
Banned
Can't really go wrong with either 3080 or 3090. As long as it's not 3070.I am such a dumbass. Sold my TUF 3080 and got this
What was the reason for the swap?
Armorian
Banned
Ok, I didn't know that? Which is why I asked him
It's the best GPU in the market right now but the price/performance ratio is piss poor. It sells mostly because people can't buy 3080 in normal price.
regawdless
Banned
My Gainward Phoenix GS boosted up to slightly over 2ghz. I gave it another +75mhz though without any issues.
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BluRayHiDef
Banned
When I had my EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming, it regularly boosted over 1900MHz, occasionally hitting 1950MHz or 1965MHz.
You can see it do so in the comparison between it and my PNY REVEL EPIC-X RTX 3090 that I made, which is below.
existensmaximum
Member
Fucking hell, you weren't kidding! I tried this right now and the noise levels are way down. Thanks a lot for the tip!
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Get a 5900X.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Intel is dead, get AMD CPU. If you only need 8 cores, get 5800X. If you have a use for 12 cores, get 5900X.