it_wasn't_me
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Uh, wow, Tom Warren is 20 years in gaming industry. Shit man....
Kleegamefan is not a forum poster. He is an ex journalist of Gamefan Magazine launched in 1992.
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Uh, wow, Tom Warren is 20 years in gaming industry. Shit man....
Kleegamefan is not a forum poster. He is an ex journalist of Gamefan Magazine launched in 1992.
it_wasn't_me
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For what?
it_wasn't_me
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Doesn't matter how old is. Tom Warren claimed that Lockhart is dead, the same goes for Klee. Btw. learn to read, Klee said "STILL" few days ago
OMG, suddenly Lockhart was resurrected few days after.
So, you'll accept what Tom said, despite he was wrong earlier, but i won't take Tom's statement with huge grain of salt because it does fit my narrative
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Yeah he's a ex journalist, so why would i believe he got more new info than Warren who is not an ex journalist? Who could have the more fresh sources i wonder...
DJ12
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So after being adamant you knew next gen wouldn't use 'next gen' Navi here we are.
Imagine what else you are adamant you know is wrong.
it_wasn't_me
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The devs with recently received dev kits. You, know, the people which are developing games.
could be that too, maybe MS is feeding fake info.. who knows
it_wasn't_me
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He was told that Lockhart was dead too. Very specifically
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOcLasaRCzY
www.resetera.com
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Sure , whatever you say, i don't want to keep in this useless debate. Like i already said, believe in what you want
Yes, I know. But you do not cancell next gen console for 2-3 months and then resurrect it again. If he reported it, and he did, he was fed with BS info.He was told that Lockhart was dead too. Very specifically
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOcLasaRCzY
it_wasn't_me
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I'm sorry it doesn't fit your narrative. Maybe one day next Xbox will be more powerful than PS5. Like it was before. Maybe it will fit your narrative when devs will claim that next Xbox is more powerful than PS5
I see. So,
it same goes for "Tom Warren doesn't know shit, full stop"?
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No, Tom Warren is proven MS insider who works for Verge. Klee is ex jurno who posts on Resetera.
it_wasn't_me
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I see, only MS insiders got a pass and they are proven ( even when they WERE WRONG AND FED WITH BULLSHIT INFO, but that doesn't matter ), but insiders which have dev friends which are developing next-gen games doesn't have a pass and are not proven.
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Ehh... He's more of a MS reporter/shill who likes to pretend he has a ton of inside knowledge. Otherwise he wouldn't spread shady leaks like Arcturus devkits. Does he actually have any case of being a first hand source of major leaks? I can't recall anything. Maybe you could link something?
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bitbydeath
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How is that different to what can be used though? I mean the GPU could be 200W of it but consumption would then vary based on the games played like the titles R600 posted earlier. And those were all of less demanding games that don’t get the fans cranking like a jet engine.
MaulerX
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This is exactly what he said on Tuesday after it was suggested Lockart was still alive:
"OMFG there is no Lockhart!"
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT7| - nm
Damn this would be great for vr
www.resetera.com
All I'm saying is don't take his stuff as gospel. Tom Warren reported it was dead in June but then reported of it's revival. Klee kept saying it was dead. It just means some sources are more accurate than others at the time of writing.
it_wasn't_me
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Same can goes for Tom, hm...when he claimed that Lockhart was dead?
it_wasn't_me
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Maybe from this page :
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
I do get your point, 8Tf console dont suit that monster theory, then again those pr: well people are more familiar with previous generation Teraflops (gcn) it make more sense to communicate well with the consumer so he can get a sense of what hes buying. It goes like that 😁, gcn 2 digit Tf...
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Where's the 300w or even 200w draw for that matter? Spikes near 180w at most during jet engine mode.
310w PSU doesn't mean it will ever draw anywhere close to that much. It doesn't mean the hardware needs 310w to run at full potential as you try to imply. In reality it needs much less - less than 200w.
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nowhat
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bitbydeath
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That’s my point though.
Max power consumption can be increased from R600’s estimates as it doesn’t mean it will be used just like with the Pro.
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Negotiator
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OG PS3 was a 200W console and it didn't have nearly as many vents as the PS5 prototypes/dev kits. Maybe Sony is targeting a higher TDP this time around.
Back when PS3 was released, cooling systems were less elaborate than today. We didn't even have 300W GPUs.
Improved yields and more refined 7nm EUV lithography could also help. 3950X has higher specs (more cores/MHz) than 3900X and yet, it consumes less power than 3900X. As yields improve, they'll be able to produce more of those.
Back when PS3 was released, cooling systems were less elaborate than today. We didn't even have 300W GPUs.
Improved yields and more refined 7nm EUV lithography could also help. 3950X has higher specs (more cores/MHz) than 3900X and yet, it consumes less power than 3900X. As yields improve, they'll be able to produce more of those.
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OsirisBlack
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I would never, to be specific the FF2400 will be > 10. You can book that, but no one said anything about 12 or even 11. At this point in time I highly doubt they're going to tune in the opposite direction of what is in developers hands.LOL,OsirisBlack is fucking with us!
Edited to add: Only a very few are out which is where I fucked up. So yea.
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SlimySnake
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but why play games with us and have us waste hours only to find out that your riddle said 'scarlett is out in the wild'. thats super lame.
bitbydeath
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So Scarlett is < 11 but greater than 10, what about the PS5?
gaming_noob
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Anaconda > PS5 ? I need to know before bedtime.
No , everyone that thought it was going to be stronger than PS5 changed their minds after the dev kits was sent out,
So you been telling us stuff we already knew?
DeepEnigma
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He already mentioned PS5 > Scarlet in TF/RT.
Insane Metal
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Did he? Where?
DeepEnigma
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Click on his name, and scroll through his posts.
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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
Regarding Lockhart from a 3rd party dev. Eh, this guy is an extremely small dev. I very much doubt he has any sort of clue about anything right now.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
In other words. 1619E = 2511920 Papa Sierra V >>> Black Widow
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He said PS5 has higher FLOPs & better Ray-tracing hardware but he also said that Scarlett has some advantages , my guess is that he was talking about RAM or CPU
DeepEnigma
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He also mentioned both consoles are plenty capable, and the differences would be very small unless your glued to DF, you would be hard pressed to notice.
Pro hardware doesn't use all that power PSU can feed because it's not capable to even use it. The hardware just isn't that power hungry when running at it's max. What don't you get? It runs in 170s at max gaming loads. If you put in much more power hungry hardware it would draw much more than 170w and also produce much more heat. 40 CU reference 5700xt card draws well over 200w at 80+ degrees under gaming loads. Now add CPU cores, more CUs to the APU and you have a furnace. You would need some serious cooling but the compact, light, cheap home console design can allow only so much.
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bitbydeath
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You’re not accounting for the huge heat reduction from 16nm to 7nm+
DeepEnigma
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Lockhart is awesome, imagine the next gen console at 299-349$ price point plus gamepassawesome stuff.
No wonder a lot of people were mad at that news because it will definitely be the best selling next gen console at the start of the new gen era.
It’s not the imaginary price or sales tales from the arse people are concerned about.
It’s a 4-6TF “next-gen” limp they are concerned when it comes to the lowest common denominator for building games.
Enough with the wars bullshit.
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Grow up then. If you want power go buy RTX2080Ti instead of bitching about 4tf nonsense.
Going by your logic every devs should develop their games with RTX2080ti in their mind instead of virgin amd gpu.
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Aceofspades
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Lockhart is awesome, imagine the next gen console at 299-349$ price point plus gamepass
No wonder a lot of people were mad at that news because it will definitely be the best selling next gen console at the start of the new gen era.
What is this? An early advertisement for Lockhart?! Lol
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DeepEnigma
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You make no sense.
More than yours.
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