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You sound annoyed OB. It's almost over...
Insane Metal
Member
It's finally time to see if you're right.
Hawking Radiation
Member
What kind of event can we expect IF Sony somehow revealed they managed 14TF for PS5?
saintjules
Member
saintjules
Member
What do you think? No Lockhart at launch means the Series X can't go beyond $500. Firm price. I mean, I did have some thought it could go beyond that based on what we're getting.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Depends on how it's used I guess. L2$ being just 5 MB surprised me too, but I figure that's part of the reason they went with 2.5 GB for the OS. Reserving 2.5 GB GDDR6 for OS was probably a more cost-effective measure than pushing 8 MB L2$ for a bigger, more expensive die. The extra missing 3 MB L2$ budget had to of gone somewhere
Nah, don't think it'll be above $500 tbh. MLID seems to think the BOM is probably at a place where $499 is doable at-cost or with just a very small lost.
Hearing them speak on pricing strategy and purpose for a lower-end model (typically being to offset a higher-priced premium model) and how XSX can already run 4 instances of Gears 5 as virtual machines on one model (plus the fact we still haven't heard anything about Lockhart yet), seems to point at Lockhart not happening and therefore no need for XSX to price above $499, because there's no lower-end model around to offset a higher price.
It was because Sony does BC through a different means than Microsoft; MS went with a more software-orientated approach (on XBO they split things through hypervisors), whereas Sony went with a more hardware-orientated approach (CU enable/disable in blocks).
They are both likely using the same approaches from last gen on that note.
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Perrott
Gold Member
Did you guys hear? LA. Noir 2 got leaked apparently.
Maybe tomorrow
Apparently it's fake
Disco_
Member
That dude is regretting inhaling that cigar smoke.Probably puking into a trash can 10 minutes later.
Those xbox one x dev kits sure look nice.
Stillmatic
Member
GlassAwful
Member
I just want to say to everyone that you're welcome.
Obviously MS and Sony saw my post from Sunday stating that they would stay silent for the next 4+ weeks in this midst of this crisis and that was enough to stir them into action.
Once again, you're welcome. Let me know if there's anything else I can do.
Obviously MS and Sony saw my post from Sunday stating that they would stay silent for the next 4+ weeks in this midst of this crisis and that was enough to stir them into action.
Once again, you're welcome. Let me know if there's anything else I can do.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Surprised no one said "OmG LoK At tHE TwEEt FroM PLayStatiON, IT gOT 4 MILlioN LiKES in 0.5 SECoNDs on SnApChaT HuEHEHuHEUHeu"
CraZed
Member
They look like repurposed audio receivers...
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Pantz
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Aww shit! It’s a dance party!
ArabianPrynce
Member
Here is my pc build.
pcpartpicker.com
I am saving up money for a pc. I can afford it for sure but they way people are desribing the consoles it seems that it would be just as powerful as this build with less than half the price.
Should i just wait for the ps5? be honest
System Builder
pcpartpicker.com
I am saving up money for a pc. I can afford it for sure but they way people are desribing the consoles it seems that it would be just as powerful as this build with less than half the price.
Should i just wait for the ps5? be honest
Self High Five
Member
bitbydeath
Member
Here is my pc build.
System Builder
I am saving up money for a pc. I can afford it for sure but they way people are desribing the consoles it seems that it would be just as powerful as this build with less than half the price.
Should i just wait for the ps5? be honest
They’re both more powerful than the 2080ti.
You should wait for the 3080 series if you want to stay ahead.
ArabianPrynce
Member
Wait where did you get the info they will be more powerful than 2080ti
demigod
Member
Here is my pc build.
System Builder
I am saving up money for a pc. I can afford it for sure but they way people are desribing the consoles it seems that it would be just as powerful as this build with less than half the price.
Should i just wait for the ps5? be honest
Don’t build a pc until the new cards come out.
CuriousToe
Member
Here is my pc build.
System Builder
I am saving up money for a pc. I can afford it for sure but they way people are desribing the consoles it seems that it would be just as powerful as this build with less than half the price.
Should i just wait for the ps5? be honest
In my opinion, there is very little case for building a gaming PC at this point in time. If you're looking to build a a PC, I think it's worth waiting for the consoles to land, and reap the benefits of better tech and pricing in 2021.
Investing in a PC now would be like buying a new car just as the latest model is about to release. You'll enjoy it, but...
marvifrom
Member
Agreed. Wait for the 20TF plus monster cards.
Luquinhadesu
Neo Member
Technical Director at Bluepoint. Are we gonna see something related their next project? I think Sony will at least show some teaser for an upcoming game (not Godfall)
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
Why wouldn't Sony change its approach?Depends on how it's used I guess. L2$ being just 5 MB surprised me too, but I figure that's part of the reason they went with 2.5 GB for the OS. Reserving 2.5 GB GDDR6 for OS was probably a more cost-effective measure than pushing 8 MB L2$ for a bigger, more expensive die. The extra missing 3 MB L2$ budget had to of gone somewhere
Nah, don't think it'll be above $500 tbh. MLID seems to think the BOM is probably at a place where $499 is doable at-cost or with just a very small lost.
Hearing them speak on pricing strategy and purpose for a lower-end model (typically being to offset a higher-priced premium model) and how XSX can already run 4 instances of Gears 5 as virtual machines on one model (plus the fact we still haven't heard anything about Lockhart yet), seems to point at Lockhart not happening and therefore no need for XSX to price above $499, because there's no lower-end model around to offset a higher price.
It was because Sony does BC through a different means than Microsoft; MS went with a more software-orientated approach (on XBO they split things through hypervisors), whereas Sony went with a more hardware-orientated approach (CU enable/disable in blocks).
They are both likely using the same approaches from last gen on that note.
xiaoming10086
Member
You are lucky, it's 24:00 / 0:00 hereFuck it, I wasn't going to watch this live, but I have to. I'm getting up at 5am I guess.
demigod
Member
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
A: Logistical reasons.
B: Financial/economic reasons (costs in implementing a different method may not be worth the investment amount)
C: Preference (maybe Sony prefers a hardware-based approach for BC)
D: Development priorities (regarding other PS5 features)
Just because they can change their approach, doesn't mean they will or even want to.
CrypticScope
Neo Member
Anyone know where the PS5 spec reveal will be livestreamed?
Deeper Underground
Member
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
But won't it hold back the power of their next console if they're forced into that?
ArcaneNLSC
Member
OK serious question in How Sony has prepared this presentation/keynote
A) pre recorded and uploaded to YouTube and that at a set time.
B) Live the Bill O'Reilly meme way
Venue
A) Studio
B) Cerny's tub
and for potentially the last time we can use this meme I made
Not long now
A) pre recorded and uploaded to YouTube and that at a set time.
B) Live the Bill O'Reilly meme way
Venue
A) Studio
B) Cerny's tub
and for potentially the last time we can use this meme I made
Not long now
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44alltheway
Member
Gonna just say before it gets crazy tomorrow morning, the speculation has been very fun! Finally its gonna end tomorrow and we can then discuss what games will be out in the next year.
My prediction is that the Series X will edge out the PS5, but it will be close, no idea if there will be a price difference though!
My prediction is that the Series X will edge out the PS5, but it will be close, no idea if there will be a price difference though!
Mendou
Banned
Given the raw bandwidth that is required from GPUs to render 4k footage, I think AI upscaling technology like this video shows is the future:
If the PS5 rendered 1440p footage and convincingly upscaled it to 4k using some neural engine chip, then even if it really were just 9tf as the trolls say it would be incredibly powerful given that it isn't using most of its power to render 4k. That performance would instead be used elsewhere. I hope the team at Sony did something like this given their custom designs and current innovations. That would be a 'secret sauce' I would find incredible if Cerny showed us convincing 4k footage and then revealed that it was all upscaled using PS5's custom hardware.
If the PS5 rendered 1440p footage and convincingly upscaled it to 4k using some neural engine chip, then even if it really were just 9tf as the trolls say it would be incredibly powerful given that it isn't using most of its power to render 4k. That performance would instead be used elsewhere. I hope the team at Sony did something like this given their custom designs and current innovations. That would be a 'secret sauce' I would find incredible if Cerny showed us convincing 4k footage and then revealed that it was all upscaled using PS5's custom hardware.
Metroiddarks
Member
This the closest pc I can configure to an XSX (some things a little better others not) and cost around $12000 without OS and control.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qw7Lb8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qw7Lb8
Roronoa Zoro
Gold Member
PlayStation blog and probably on the PlayStation YouTube channel
bitbydeath
Member
I had my suspicions during the AMD Financial Day when they produced this slide.
The perf-per-watt I believe is now greater than Nvidias as RDNA1 was said to be on par or at least very close to it. RDNA2 then had another 50% leap taking over it.
Then we had DF show Gears 5 running against the 2080ti beating it.
XSX - 4K, 100FPS
2080ti - 4K, 60FPS
CraZed
Member
B_Boss
Member
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Nevaeh
Member
Vulkan RT released yesterday
www.khronos.org
do you guys think its for PS5 ?
Khronos Group Releases Vulkan Ray Tracing
Today, The Khronos Group announces the ratification and public…
www.khronos.org
HawarMiran
Banned
Like the Xperia presentationOK serious question in How Sony has prepared this presentation/keynote
A) pre recorded and uploaded to YouTube and that at a set time.
B) Live the Bill O'Reilly meme way
Venue
A) Studio
B) Cerny's tub
and for potentially the last time we can use this meme I made
Not long now
kyliethicc
Member
Only PS blog, might even be pre recorded.
Classicrockfan
Banned
So will the system acually be shown or just specs?
SegaSnatcher
Member
This was made specifically for game developers, its just going to talk about the architecture/specs.
CrypticScope
Neo Member
Specs/tech demos/games possibly?
Console probably won't be shown till June
Smoke6
Member
That’s crazy as only a few games and studios barely matchup to Sony’s best graphically!Feathers not ruffled, I have a PS4... I just don't see the console being as powerful as the XSX in terms of graphical power. My honest opinion.
We shall see tomorrow
What an odd statement
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Maybe, maybe not. Absolute power doesn't mean much anyway if the system sacrifices balance and efficiency to achieve it. PS5 will reflect whatever design goals Sony has for it, same as XSX does for Microsoft.
Damnit. Well, hope it's on Youtube as well. Hate watching embedded videos on other websites that use their own crap players (unless they're using the Youtube one).
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trancefreak64
Member
Fake News lol. Hopefully they are wrong with there Fake Github leaks.
Its close enough that it wont matter. I feel like both are going to be close enough that its going to be other things that will seperate the consoles.
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