Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Hey, I enjoyed Kameo a lot too, but will still disagree .They definitely have a worse track record post buyout, but I strongly believe Viva Piñata is better than anything they ever made with Nintendo.
Hey, I enjoyed Kameo a lot too, but will still disagree .They definitely have a worse track record post buyout, but I strongly believe Viva Piñata is better than anything they ever made with Nintendo.
By letting them struggle for a while and seeing what they could produce?Well they picked Rare before and look how that turned out.
I like Kameo and Nuts and Bolts tooThey definitely have a worse track record post buyout, but I strongly believe Viva Piñata is better than anything they ever made with Nintendo.
This man speaks the truth.The beginning of the first economic bubble in gaming. In 5 years expect massive studio closures on both sides if this is the case.
Really?I dont think so, gaming is healthy industry.
Bound In Blood is one of my favorite games everThey should buy Techland and make them develop more Call of Juarez games.
They should have grabbed 4A Games.They should buy Techland and make them develop more Call of Juarez games.
You will always be able to buy games directly, but it’s possible some games will be exclusive to cloud consoles. Still better than now when you may have to buy a Switch or PS5 just for exclusives you might want.So with MS, Google, Amazon, Sony, EA all in the acquisition race we're heading towards a nightmare scenario where after this gen people will be likely forced to subscribe to multiple services (like Netflix, Disney+, HBO etc) if they want to play with the same diversity they have enjoyed for decades on a single console.
This is not good at all.
You will always be able to buy games directly, but it’s possible some games will be exclusive to cloud consoles. Still better than now when you may have to buy a Switch or PS5 just for exclusives you might want.
Yeah my point could have been more clear, I don’t mean the situation overall is better, but that if I have to choose I prefer exclusives to be on a platform with little or zero cost to entry (like Stadia or the Amazon thingy) versus a platform with a high cost to entry (like 500 bucks for a PS5 or 300 for a Switch).Emmm how's that supposed to be better exactly?
You' ll have to continue to buy Nintendo and Sony products for their exclusives.
You'll just have to add to the mix subscriptions to companies like Google, Amazon, Microsoft and whatever for games that are now are completely multiplatform.
It's no way an improvement from a consumer perspective.
Yeah my point could have been more clear, I don’t mean the situation overall is better, but that if I have to choose I prefer exclusives to be on a platform with little or zero cost to entry (like Stadia or the Amazon thingy) versus a platform with a high cost to entry (like 500 bucks for a PS5 or 300 for a Switch).
I agree with that - again my point is if games are going to be scattered across more services and platforms, I prefer it to be on Cloud platforms or storefronts better than across physical devices.Again you won't be able to avoid these costs if you're interested in the Nintendo/Sony games just like now.
There are no improvements, just extra costs because the games you would be able to play with a single investement will require (multiple?) subscriptions in the future.
It's bad.
I agree with that - again my point is if games are going to be scattered across more services and platforms, I prefer it to be on Cloud platforms or storefronts better than across physical devices.
If Demons Souls remake was a Stadia game I would play it already since it would cost me just the game, but since it’s on PS5 I can’t justify the entry cost just for one game so far (plus it’s impossible to find one anyway). So I prefer a dev being bought by Amazon than Sony, if they have to be bought at all.
with sea of thieves being in the top 5 of steam from years?Well they picked Rare before and look how that turned out.
it's not about ALL consumers gosh ms didn't spent 7.5 billions to make other platform consumers happy..as Sony dosnt when do exclusives or times exclusives shits Stop with this vulgar do-gooding. If for you it is so obvious (from how you write it seems so) to go out and buy consoles from Sony and Nintendo for their exclusives you will learn how to do this with ms. this is what Ms wants and I assure you that those in the Microsoft ecosystem are MORE THAN HAPPY with these acquisitions because everything will end up on gamepass ..And you will understand for yourself that Ms is interested in making their users feel special, not Sony's one. It's that simple. if other platforms (ninty and PlayStation) users will want they will be able to access the ecosystem in a very simple way since ms is working hard to lower the barriers to entry. cheaper console ... tv stick (rumor) android and ios (soon) ..pcEmmm how's that supposed to be better exactly?
You' ll have to continue to buy Nintendo and Sony products for their exclusives.
You'll just have to add to the mix subscriptions to companies like Google, Amazon, Microsoft and whatever for games that are now are completely multiplatform.
It's no way an improvement from a consumer perspective.
google + stadia = same thing.I wonder how aggressive Microsoft will be with future acquisitions in the current environment. With giants like Google and Stadia shopping around and Sony probably looking at smaller studios, MS really needs to get their bids in before the studios/publishers are gone. What's the worst scenario for MS, overpaying too much for a studio/publisher in a potential bidding war or losing them altogether?
it's not about ALL consumers gosh ms didn't spent 7.5 billions to make other platform consumers happy..as Sony dosnt when do exclusives or times exclusives shits Stop with this vulgar do-gooding. If for you it is so obvious (from how you write it seems so) to go out and buy consoles from Sony and Nintendo for their exclusives you will learn how to do this with ms. this is what Ms wants and I assure you that those in the Microsoft ecosystem are MORE THAN HAPPY with these acquisitions because everything will end up on gamepass ..And you will understand for yourself that Ms is interested in making their users feel special, not Sony's one. It's that simple. if other platforms (ninty and PlayStation) users will want they will be able to access the ecosystem in a very simple way since ms is working hard to lower the barriers to entry. cheaper console ... tv stick (rumor) android and ios (soon) ..pc
Streaming consoles being mainstream is years away. For the foreseeable you just need a PC and whichever Sony/Nintendo console you want and you're covered. Large-scale subscription services are still far from proven within gaming.So with MS, Google, Amazon, Sony, EA all in the acquisition race we're heading towards a nightmare scenario where after this gen people will be likely forced to subscribe to multiple services (like Netflix, Disney+, HBO etc) if they want to play with the same diversity they have enjoyed for decades on a single console.
This is not good at all.
Before those games wasn't on gamepass the same day of release and someone like sony who does it whenever they can .. would steal (to make his platform special on the skin of all other players .. Xbox Nintendo or pc) multiple games from ms users .... death loop & ghostwire they were at least timed exclusives and saw ms users again in deficit for at least 1 year. Those two games are just an direct example. It would be nice that all games would be on all platforms but that's not the case and if we have to be honest on balance the platform with the lowest price barriers and the easier to reach by users leaving youat the same time the choice of choosing your fav device (PC .. console .. tablet .. phone..TV) today it is what Microsoft is proposing.Emmm honestly what are you even talking about?
My post was about how in general a future where consumers have to pay for multiple subscriptions to play the same games they could play before on a single console is obviously bad for consumers.
It has nothing with do with Microsoft's intentions. It's absolutely obivous that all companies want to dominate the market they're in and MS would like to lock all users into their ecosystem.
For MS consumers nothing is going to change, Sony and Nintendo aren't going anywhere in any case and if you want to play their games you'll have to buy their consoles or services just like...now?
And once the investement phase for Gamepass is over and MS will have a sizeble subscription base you're so going to enjoy the price increases to 15$ monthly or even higher to recoup of all billions they have spent so far and pay the bills for the development of the games of all the games they're making. This is just the reality of the business model, just look at what Netflix, Amazon with Prime, Disney + are doing, at first they try to attract consumers with great value and then they fuck them.
Also this is not just about MS, you're not seeing past your own nose if you are not realizing that MS are not the only ones who are doing acquisitions or gearing for an acquistion race. Huge companies (even stronger than MS) like Goole and Amazon are in as well. Not to mention the same Sony, Ea and other big companies.
The cake will fractured in many pieces.
So you don't like competition?Im glad that this hobby i really enjoy is going to be torn apart because a few trillion dollar companies couldnt be satisfied with the mountain of money they already have.
Seeing how Bloodborne sold the least copies of all their AAA titles, I don't think they are losing much sleep.What else do they own? Didn't they guy them for a relatively cheap price a few years ago? I'd say Sony are kicking themselves. But they're pinching themselves they bought insomniac because MS would have probably doubled their offer in today's world.
Totally subjective. How much time have you spent playing SoT?Lol, sure Rare is as good as it was when they bought it .
I doubt Microsoft would touch anything Pitchford anymore.i know phil wants to make randy pitchford his bitch so gearbox is next on microsoft's target. Since randy called out phil that your console is weak in a tweet. This will be sweet revenge from phil /s
They could buy them with the intention to releasing their games on PS and PC if sales was an issue. I get your point though.Seeing how Bloodborne sold the least copies of all their AAA titles, I don't think they are losing much sleep.
Not really played it yet, will do so and comment on it when I have done as I have it in my library.Totally subjective. How much time have you spent playing SoT?
you won’t see spending on that scale by Sony particularly when Jim Ryan is at the helm and the world is still living with covidIMO heres what sony should do but wont:
Doesnt Sony have like 40 some billion cash on hand? They could purchase capcom for 5 or 6 billion and kadokawa for 2.5 billion. And still have 30 some billion left. Plus this quarters profits have come in yet which should be around 4 or 5 billion altogether assuming PS5 didnt make a major loss. Kadokawa also has manga and anime, a place they want to be dominant. Capcom you can do so much with their IP like movies, anime, streaming etc. Heck you dont even have ti make these games exclusive, keep them multiplatform for maximum profit.
42 billion- 8.5= 33.5 Billion
+5 billion of this quarters profits (Assuming its that good, holiday sales and whatnot)
38.5 Billion.
Id say Sony with Capcom and from software under their belt they wouldnt have to worry about what the other big player do. But they would/should focus all other energy on square enix after that.
Sony's strategy straight sucks!
Look at SuperMassive, Until Dawn was the dog's bollocks, and they made a few PSVR titles. Man Of Medan was poor, and Little Hope still shows budget constraints now that Sony's not backing them. They've just been kind of set adrift... And there's plenty more examples like this. Ueda, Quantic Dream etc.
Today it was Bethesda that MS bought, studio(s) who's games were on the decline due to glitches, old engines, lack of money etc. etc. What if next time it's someone far more substantial, or someone that people would expect to be Sony-associated (e.g. FaceBook buying RAD)
The flaw in Sony's strategy boils down to case studies on Arkane's DeathLoop, and also Tango's Ghostwire Tokyo. Sony had ''long partnerships'' and ''exclusive deals'' planned with these, and then MS just comes along and gobbles-up Zenimax. So now, Starfield that Sony were negociating exclusivity for, likely isn't coming at all, let alone exclusively.
IMO heres what sony should do but wont:
Doesnt Sony have like 40 some billion cash on hand? They could purchase capcom for 5 or 6 billion and kadokawa for 2.5 billion. And still have 30 some billion left. Plus this quarters profits have come in yet which should be around 4 or 5 billion altogether assuming PS5 didnt make a major loss. Kadokawa also has manga and anime, a place they want to be dominant. Capcom you can do so much with their IP like movies, anime, streaming etc. Heck you dont even have ti make these games exclusive, keep them multiplatform for maximum profit.
42 billion- 8.5= 33.5 Billion
+5 billion of this quarters profits (Assuming its that good, holiday sales and whatnot)
38.5 Billion.
Id say Sony with Capcom and from software under their belt they wouldnt have to worry about what the other big player do. But they would/should focus all other energy on square enix after that.
What company right now isn’t “being honest?” What does being honest even mean?So you don't like competition?
Competition is what keeps companies honest.
The thing to do is just keep buying the platform you always liked to play on.... if the new entrants can't gain any market share, they will stop their destructive behaviour and leave. We might ahve a few casualties but it's the only way.Im glad that this hobby i really enjoy is going to be torn apart because a few trillion dollar companies couldnt be satisfied with the mountain of money they already have.
That offer would most likely have to be in the range of 13-14 billion with 12 months free of GamePass thrown in.Ubisoft would be a good acquisition for Microsoft. Would give them a lot of the third person adventure IP, a very solid studio infrastructure, Tom Clancy, Far Cry, etc. Also they could be acquired for a similar cost to Bethesda - valued at 3.7 billion with a market cap of 10.5 billion.
THQ have been on an acquisition spree themselves, I’m pretty sure getting acquired isn’t on their plan.Really surprised there hasnt been any Microsoft buying THQ/Nordic rumours. They would be a perfect fit for Gamepass. AA games, old famous franchises, and they have somehting like 80 games in development apparently, that would be steady and constant Gamepass filler.
Being honest means that competition is what stops companies like Sony and MS from screwing customers over.What company right now isn’t “being honest?” What does being honest even mean?
Have they actually acquired anyone substantial yet? I've heard dire prognostications for Microsoft and Sony on this forum when Amazon starts gobbling up studios however here we are... and nothing yet.So who's excited for Google and Amazon stealing all the big AAA studios?