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[dem]

And this is why I never put anything in email.

 

[adamsapple]

Huh.

adamsapple care to comment on this in relation to the Cloud SLC?

"Were not putting our first-party IP on competing streaming or competing subscription services," Booty had written in an email. "No F-ing way"

(This question is open to all of the Booty email defence brigade)

Please don't tell me they can't change strategies over time

 

[Mr Moose]

And this is why I never put anything in email.

What type of shady shit are you doing?

 

[Banjo64]

Please don't tell me they can't change strategies over time

But Jim can’t change his position after initial verbal talks Vs receiving a concrete contracted offer?

 

[Topher]

Please don't tell me they can't change strategies over time

Please don't tell me you buy that shit

 

[DeepEnigma]

How can a handful of MS Execs totally forget how some Bethesda games became exclusive to Xbox? And killed on the PS5 development? HOW!?!?

They didn't forget.

 

[user friendly]

Sorry, but can I watch this somewhere?

 

[Kenshin775]

I think they have other email responses that take higher priority there lmao

But Sony isn't going to put 1st party content on other subscriptions either. MS has already offered to put CoD on other subs if they pay for it.

 

[Topher]

Matt Booty found Jesus sometime between 2019 and 2022

 

[adamsapple]

But Jim can’t change his position after initial verbal talks Vs receiving a concrete contracted offer?

The answer is in the number of 1P Xbox games that have come to PS subs in the interim.

The wolfenstein games, Fallout, Prey, Doom etc are all currently on PS Plus sub services.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm just sitting here waiting for an email that makes reference to Ybarra.

Shades of Nokia.

 

[GHG]

Please don't tell me they can't change strategies over time

Right now I'm 4/1 that you're booty, 7/1 that you're Ybarra.

 

[NickFire]

Huh.

adamsapple care to comment on this in relation to the Cloud SLC?

"Were not putting our first-party IP on competing streaming or competing subscription services," Booty had written in an email. "No F-ing way"

(This question is open to all of the Booty email defence brigade)

Now that might be a smoking gun. That is not a please don't panic email from someone who isn't trying to buy the IP. He can say its their old strategy all day long, but fact is they followed it and will continue following it in 3 months.

 

[Elios83]

Ahahah killing Sony was an old strategy, no experiment of thought
Booty is getting roasted.

 

[Topher]

The wolfenstein games, Fallout, Prey, Doom etc are all currently on PS Plus sub services.

And when did those games come to PS+ again?

 

[DeepEnigma]

But Sony isn't going to put 1st party content on other subscriptions either. MS has already offered to put CoD on other subs if they pay for it.

So hasn't Activision. The price would be insurmountable, however. It's a red herring.

 

[Banjo64]

“I think the idea is to create a moat that nobody else can attack.”

Uh number 1 rule in the UK is to say shit like this verbally in person or over private phones. You never put this in any trackable comms due to FOI requests, government audits etc.

Wtf

 

[Dr_Ifto]

And this is why I never put anything in email.

I know I have been told once or twice to not put a response in email and to tell the person in-person on a few things at my job. I bet the juicier stuff isnt in an email.

 

[Dick Jones]

Why do you hate that guy, every time his name comes up lol

I dont know why he mentioned Stephen Elop either. Weird

 

[ZehDon]

Right now I'm 4/1 that you're booty, 7/1 that you're Ybarra.

Twist ending:

 

[GHG]

The more I think of it, the more I think the FTC don't give a shit what the outcome of this case is. This was to get as much material out there as possible.

The CMA are licking their lips.

 

[jm89]

Please don't tell me they can't change strategies over time

Yeah they can when the "regulatory outlook was looking dark" - to paraphrase one of sonys reponse to the CMA

 

[azertydu91]

Please don't tell me they can't change strategies over time

Yeah and Jim can't and you believe the thought experiment excuse too I guess....And Bethesda game became exclusive to xbox had not correlation to their aquisition....I think you need to let that ball leave your throat, it seems to have deprived your brain of oxygen.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The more I think of it, the more I think the FTC don't give a shit what the outcome of this case is.

The CMA are licking their lips.

They're just there to air the dirty laundry. That email may have just screwed the CAT appeal.

 

[adamsapple]

And when did those games come to PS+ again?

Over time ? Fallout 4 has been on the PS Plus Collections list for year(s) before they officially stopped offering those earlier this year.

 

[mckmas8808]

oh no, this won't go over well for some people, MS lawyer:

How can this MS lawyer say console gaming only made $283 million last year? Zelda: ToTK made more than that in one weekend lol.

 

[Banjo64]

The answer is in the number of 1P Xbox games that have come to PS subs in the interim.

The wolfenstein games, Fallout, Prey, Doom etc are all currently on PS Plus sub services.

You’re floundering mate. CoD was the only game referenced by name.

The email that was your ‘smoking gun’ for Jim:

I’ve spent a fair bit of time... with both phil and bobby over the past day, I’m pretty sure we will continue to see COD on PS for many years to come.

 

[Topher]

The more I think of it, the more I think the FTC don't give a shit what the outcome of this case is. This was to get as much material out there as possible.

The CMA are licking their lips.

Lina Khan has said as much. They want to create more case law. They've already referenced prior case law in these proceedings. It's about building up precedence.

 

[feynoob]

feynoob you still have that link?

The email references this.



The update of the email


The email itself.

 

[feynoob]

That's rubbish lad. You swear under oath ffs.

That is the thing. The oath only works if they prove you are lying.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The email references this.



The update of the email


The email itself.

And here is the mental gymnastics timeline from that thread.

Well you see here, a timeline in the span of less than 18 hours:

- "LOL gamer lawsuit lawyers"

- "The the email isn't real"

- Then it shifted to it being real, but the content probably isn't what was said, "lol black bars" (even tho lawyers see the unredacted content)

- Then "LOL 2019 proves this isn't true" (I know, retarted)

- A few shill "journalists" backpedal not to lose their grift from said company, "see it was fake" (appeal to the most pathetic of authority)

- To now it was admitted to being real by MS, but just a "thought experiment bros"

- Abandon thread, shift change

Yes, intellectually dishonest derps were carrying that cognitively bankrupt water.

 

[adamsapple]

You’re floundering mate. CoD was the only game referenced by name.

The email that was your ‘smoking gun’ for Jim:

I’ve spent a fair bit of time... with both phil and bobby over the past day, I’m pretty sure we will continue to see COD on PS for many years to come.

Booty's email is about first party IP, not about CoD.

"Were not putting our first-party IP on competing streaming or competing subscription services," Booty had written in an email. "No F-ing way"

Y'all keep changing the parameters and then say I'm floundering

 

[Dick Jones]

That is the thing. The oath only works if they prove you are lying.

Stop. Perjury is a real thing. Stop making shit up.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Booty's email is about first party IP, not about CoD.






Y'all keep changing the parameters and then say I'm floundering

CoD would be a first party IP after purchase, would it not?

 

[Thirty7ven]

The answer is in the number of 1P Xbox games that have come to PS subs in the interim.

The wolfenstein games, Fallout, Prey, Doom etc are all currently on PS Plus sub services.

Ahahahahaha omg

 

[adamsapple]

CoD would be a first party IP after purchase, would it not?

Yes, and the examples I gave demonstrably show they've changed that stance between 2019 and now.

 

[Banjo64]

Booty's email is about first party IP, not about CoD.

Yes we addressed that. And you said that they are entitled to change strategy.

And then I said ‘but Jim Ryan isn’t allowed to change his stance?’

So what’s your point bringing up those games?

It’s not perimeter changing, you’re just not following the conversation.

 

[Dick Jones]

Should Xbox have sacked Booty before right now?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yes, and the examples I gave demonstrably show they've changed that stance between 2019 and now.

 

[azertydu91]

CoD would be a first party IP after purchase, would it not?

 

[GHG]

If this isn't enough to convince people that Xbox have a management problem then nothing will.

They have the IP, they have the studios, they have the developers, they have the hardware, they have the infrastructure, they have all the money in the world.

But fuck me, what a cretinous stinky management team.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Could she be any worse than Phil? Are we sure?

 

[adamsapple]

Yes we addressed that. And you said that they are entitled to change strategy.

And then I said ‘but Jim Ryan isn’t allowed to change his stance?’

So what’s your point bringing up those games?

It’s not perimeter changing, you’re just not following the conversation.

Jim can change his stance all he wants, he acknowledged publicly that he expects CoD to be on PS platforms for years.

The same thing Phil/MS said.

 

[Topher]

Over time ? Fallout 4 has been on the PS Plus Collections list for year(s) before they officially stopped offering those earlier this year.

Anything added since all this nonsense began can be seen just as easily as strategy for the acquisition. Will not be surprised if those games are point out in court.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Just keep moving the line, Booty...

 

[DeepEnigma]

If this isn't enough to convince people that Xbox have a management problem then nothing will.

They have the IP, they have the studios, they have the developers, they have the hardware, they have the infrastructure, they have all the money in the world.

But fuck me, what a cretinous stinky management team.

It's what happens when a company is so rife with nepotism and keeping their friends around far too long past their usefulness, while they rely mainly on 18 month contractors for the actual production end.

But hey, they have a fantastic productivity service gift. I can't knock that.

 

[feynoob]

Stop. Perjury is a real thing. Stop making shit up.

I am not making it up.

When is it okay for a lawyer to lie?

Everyone knows that lawyers are not allowed to lie — to clients, courts or third parties. But once you get beyond deliberate false statements, the scope of the obligations to truth and integrity become less clear. What about reckless and negligent statements that are false? What about misleading...

www.americanbar.org

 

[Mr Moose]

Booty's email is about first party IP, not about CoD.






Y'all keep changing the parameters and then say I'm floundering

You... Didn't think this through...

 

[Thirty7ven]

Hey guys MS bought Bethesda and they release PS5 timed exclusives like Deathloop and Ghostwire, how don’t you guys understand the change of heart?

 

[Topher]

Yes, and the examples I gave demonstrably show they've changed that stance between 2019 and now.

lol....no it doesn't. That's hilarious