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News Metro Exodus Dev Says PS5 Ray Tracing ‘Is Probably The Biggest Feature We’re Excited About’

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PS5 is many times more powerful than reported
Cerny talking to DF like
 
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Timdog, Colt Eastwood, and the crew need a rehabilitation.

Zalker, dealer and colteastwood are literally a joke. When Halo was delayed their channels were fucking dead silence for days. Colt eastwood didnt even have a video up for almost a week. And he still tried to spin.

Ran'dal thor is actually decent. Him and jez have a decent podcast. I just think jez on twitter and his reporting are not super great. But his collected thoughts on the podcast are nice.
 

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Exodus was a huge fucking mess on Xbox One until a year later when they patched it when they released DLC, the game crashed on me, corrupted my save, I couldn't select another save at that time they didn't have the option.

The AI in parts was just awful, so much of it lacked polish. Events didn't trigger properly, like Bosses, or waves of enemies during boss stages, enemies would get caught on simple objects. Yamantau Bunker really showed how brain dead the AI was.

I'd say these guys need to get their optimization and AI and just everything right before they start thinking about bell and whistle graphical options.
 
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Haven't they already done ray tracing in Metro?

Im not sure why its so exciting
 

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I'm glad that real devs are excited for PS5 hardware and it's features. By that, I mean technical devs, guys that push boundaries like 4A, Crytek, Dice etc....Cause PS had to battle many a FUD plant on the road to this launch.....Like;

PS5 does not have hardware RT
PS5 RT will be inferior
The SSD won't do anything else apart from decreasing loadtimes.
PS5 is not actually the 10.28TF Cerny stated
PS5 will do 1800p or lower next to it's monster eating neighbor
PS5 wont have 4K games.
Then to, PS5 is struggling with 1080p 60fps games
That Dolphin game can't do 120fps on PS5, the world is falling in on itself.

Yet I have seen nothing but posiitves from actual devs who have delivered great games and great engines before.....

The Crytek Guys
The RAD guy
The 4A Guy
The Dishonored Guy
The countless guys who are excited about the dualsense and the audio......

Devs who have proven themselves before are ecstatic, but those newcomer devs who can't sell 5 copies of their game off steam on the most powerful PC hardware or those twitter/insider/discord/podcast armchair developers who knows much more about PS5 than the details on their birth certificate can have so many issues developing for PS5 on their imaginary PS5 dev kits.... It's truly bizarre.
 

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I'm more excited about them using a fucking SSD because the loading times in Exodus are SO BAD. I have an SSD in my Pro and it still takes forever...
 

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U r hurt sweet little baby haha love it .👀🤣

Nice to hear devs are excited Bout ps5 .
They are excited about all systems as they offer them the opportunity to make money.

But you know that and I used to think you were better than that simple trolling.

Too bad, I used to respect you.
 
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Metro with RT global illumination looks amazing. Console and PC comparisons will be really interesting.

Im really intrigued to see how ratracing works on the new gen consoles. I'd love to see a really small scale game designed solely around it, something simple like Quake 2 rtx but designed with ray tracing in mind rather than just brute forcing it.
 

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I would like to remind everyone here that Metro is owned by THQ Nordick.
 

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Don't worry sony fans, we'll be getting those DF head to head comparison analysis in just a few months. Get those lame gifs out while you can lol

Oof.. you're a real diehard ain't ya? :lollipop_grinning_smiling_eyes:

You the one who also made that thread "I want everybody else to fail but XBOX", because you sure as shit seem just as pathetic.
 
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MBG is a former Xbox fanboy, same with crapgamer. You don't need shills when you have the quality to offer, let your games do the talking.
Then why post videos by KingTrash? Are you going to try and suggest that he's an impartial observer?
 

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Then why post videos by KingTrash? Are you going to try and suggest that he's an impartial observer?

He's a fanboy, indeed, and a funny one, but he's legit and serves solid points, undeniable points and backs his claims. He brings more to the table that DF tries to hide. MBG/Crapgamer aren't into analyzing things to begin with.
 
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This quote is interesting...

"The faster SSD will help a lot with player experience, but adding support for ray tracing is the sort of thing that to us shows a true generational leap in the hardware."

That seem to suggest that the SSD improvements are pretty much just 'quality of life' changes (such as faster loading). It's interesting that he excludes it from things that 'show a true generational leap in hardware'.

The implication is that having SSD's isn't going to lead to any graphical boost, as speculated by some, at least in the Metro Games.
 
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This quote is interesting...

"The faster SSD will help a lot with player experience, but adding support for ray tracing is the sort of thing that to us shows a true generational leap in the hardware."

That seem to suggest that the SSD improvements are pretty much just 'quality of life' changes (such as faster loading). It's interesting that he excludes it from things that 'show a true generational leap in hardware'.

The implication is that having SSD's isn't going to lead to any graphical boost, as speculated by some, at least in the Metro Games.

It just means it's an old game built around HDD.
 
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He's a fanboy, indeed, and a funny one, but he's legit and serves solid points, undeniable points and backs his claims. He brings more to the table that DF tries to hide. MBG/Crapgamer aren't into analyzing things to begin with.
Garbage. His videos are rambling and there's very little in the ones I've suffered through that is 'undeniable' much less 'backed up'. It's absolutely ridiculous that you would claim that he has more cred than DF. Laughable in fact.
 
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This quote is interesting...

"The faster SSD will help a lot with player experience, but adding support for ray tracing is the sort of thing that to us shows a true generational leap in the hardware."

That seem to suggest that the SSD improvements are pretty much just 'quality of life' changes (such as faster loading). It's interesting that he excludes it from things that 'show a true generational leap in hardware'.

The implication is that having SSD's isn't going to lead to any graphical boost, as speculated by some, at least in the Metro Games.

I know you would like this to be the case as it's something the PS5 is better at than the XsX is, but even MS themselves disagree with you on that.

 
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Garbage. His videos are rambling and there's very little in the ones I've suffered through that is 'undeniable' much less 'backed up'. It's absolutely ridiculous that you would claim that he has more cred than DF. Laughable in fact.

You don't even watch the whole thing, no wonder you don't see any. But anyway, it's a freedom of choice not investigating things to be more informative about what you're talking about. But in case you don't like him, check NXGamer NXGamer , pure quality, and a guy who's got his hand in the tech field and knows his shit. DF are professionals to begin with.
 

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I know you would like this to be the case as it's something the PS5 is better at than the XsX is, but even MS themselves disagree with you on that.

It's not a matter of what anybody wants, it's a matter of what the Metro dev said. Take it up with him.
 

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There's nothing in that article to suggest that he's talking about existing games. He's talking about their projects 'moving forward'.

And they are making their projects with PC in mind, so it's a waste of time to optimize for one superior system in that regard. No need to try and act as if it's something hard to understand.
 
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You don't even watch the whole thing, no wonder you don't see any. But anyway, it's a freedom of choice not investigating things to be more informative about what you're talking about. But in case you don't like him, check NXGamer NXGamer , pure quality, and a guy who's got his hand in the tech field and knows his shit. DF are professionals to begin with.
Nice try trying to paint me as ignorant for not watching KingTrash. :) That's pretty funny.

The thing is, people who watch KingTrash videos are well-informed in the same way that people who watch anti-vaxxer videos, or those that do their own research into 5G causing Covid 19 are.
 

Redlight

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And they are making their projects with PC in mind, so it's a waste of time to optimize for one superior system in that regard. No need to try and act as if it's something hard to understand.
You think that any benefit, if there is one, will only be apparent in first-party games then? That's not a lot of games in the overall scheme of things.
 

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It's not a matter of what anybody wants, it's a matter of what the Metro dev said. Take it up with him.
Its basic knowledge than anything that goes to gpu and cpu is fed by ram which is fed by io . Meaning better io leads to better ram management hence more efficient performance by cpu and gpu overall.
 

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Nice try trying to paint me as ignorant for not watching KingTrash. :) That's pretty funny.

The thing is, people who watch KingTrash videos are well-informed in the same way that people who watch anti-vaxxer videos, or those that do their own research into 5G causing Covid 19 are.

See, no need to convince you, I know his other content doesn't strike you that something pretty informative would come from his channel. But if you're interested, you can give it a try. Not fully watching his content only makes you ignorant in his offering, not an ignorant person as a whole. You said that he's garbage, and I'm more than sure you didn't investigate about that.

Anyway, no need to, there are still plenty of quality videos out there. Enjoy.
 

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Garbage. His videos are rambling and there's very little in the ones I've suffered through that is 'undeniable' much less 'backed up'. It's absolutely ridiculous that you would claim that he has more cred than DF. Laughable in fact.

I am not a fan of his colorful language nor his awful music, but that is his personal choice.

However, he makes some excellent points in a lot of his videos, things that are very obvious or should be too technical reviewers like digital foundry.

I understand why you are resistant and very hesitant to his points, i get you have green flowing from your veins.

But you are doing no one any favors by covering up or trying to candy coat issues in games just because it's not in favor of your particular piece of plastic.
 
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This quote is interesting...

"The faster SSD will help a lot with player experience, but adding support for ray tracing is the sort of thing that to us shows a true generational leap in the hardware."

That seem to suggest that the SSD improvements are pretty much just 'quality of life' changes (such as faster loading). It's interesting that he excludes it from things that 'show a true generational leap in hardware'.

The implication is that having SSD's isn't going to lead to any graphical boost, as speculated by some, at least in the Metro Games.
PS5 SSD won't shine (in gameplay) in multiplat games because they have to make the same game working on the much slower Xbox Series S.
 

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that's absolute rubbish.

I favor sony no question, but with good reason. They have provided me with exception gaming moments. I used to listen to some of Dealer and colt eastwood back, they are fucking con artists, disingenuous people that bat for Microsoft while trying to come across as all neutral.. They fuel a constant war with their bull shit.

Microsoft have let their fans down and down again, and people still defend them. It's like some form of strange Stockholm syndrome that is going on.

For normal xbox fans, i have always wished them the best, i always have and always will, you will find multiple examples of that in my post history. i have some friends on this forum that like xbox, i chat to them, i have zero issues with them, why because they do not push an agenda. They are reasonable people that don't need to add sly little words every time they mention ps5.

Its the god damn zealots I don't like, the 2 tflops is all that matters camp.

People like colt Eastwood Dealer timdog, they are trash, they are mouthpieces for Microsoft.

while t trying to shit all over ps5 they will be buying one day 1.

fuck those hypocrites.
Sounds like you are rational and reasonable as it should be. But also but it’s pretty objectively clear for a primarily PC gamer like myself to see that SONY extremist/console warriors are a significantly larger problem than the XBox extremists.
 
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The first one 'looks' better/nicer to me but maybe in motion the second RT one is more impressive?

It's too bright for a Metro environment.

With a string of light bulbs in the room, it would be bright. I have just two lightbulbs in my ceiling fan in the dining room and they light the whole room up. Count how many lightbulbs on that string.
 

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Sounds like you are rational and reasonable as it should be. But also but it’s pretty objectively clear for a primarily PC gamer like myself to see that SONY extremist/console warriors are a significantly larger problem than the XBox extremists.

i get what you are saying but did you see the fud list for the ps4.
you would expect with sony's mind share of 3-1, there would be hundreds of fud points spread about Microsoft but there is not, most of it is basically in Sony's direction.
 

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i get what you are saying but did you see the fud list for the ps4.
you would expect with sony's mind share of 3-1, there would be hundreds of fud points spread about Microsoft but there is not, most of it is basically in Sony's direction.
I wasn't as involved back then tbh. Im a long time lurker, but literally I made an account on GAF just because the SONY hypocrisy reached a level that I couldn't stomach and I wanted to provide a unbiased opinion to correlate. Basically they were so bad that a console agnostic made an account because I wanted to respond to some of the hypocrisy. I have a PS4 Pro and an Xbox One X and Switch (in additikn to my gaming rig). I double dipped on Death Stranding and God of War 4 was my favorite game this generation. That said, I in no way regret my Xbox or Switch purchases either and had a great time. Honestly I think your pro SONY stance might make you a little immune to just how bad the SONY fanboy problem is. Just look at the battle toads review thread for a recent insight.
 
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