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Osthyvel

Osthyvel

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I dont know if this is ok, i hope so, and bare with me as english aint my native language.

Well then, i bought my first console 40 years ago, i always loved playing on console and still do, never had any interest in PC until now.

I am giving up consoles in the future except Nintendos.

So i am trying to read and learn as much as i can, i dont know that much about all the components etc and it feels like a jungle, and my first question is; i dont need it right now, maybe in 2-3 year, is it smart to wait or is it better to buy one asap? Some say prices will go down but I dont know about that...

I know that memory etc cost a lot now because of ai.

I am sure there is a lot of talented people here that can give me some tips on what to buy.

I am really deep in VR since +10 years that is one thing, it has to be really good for vrgaming, i have both psvr2 and Quest 3 so the plan is to use probably q3 with the PC.

Budget around 2000$

I am very happy if you want to guide me into this new path in my life : )
 
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What resolution do you want to play at?

What markets do you have access to order from?

Sounds like you've got plenty of room for 5080rtx and 7800x3D
 
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Osthyvel said:
I am giving up consoles in the future except Nintendos.
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simpatico said:
What resolution do you want to play at?

What markets do you have access to order from?

Sounds like you've got plenty of room for 5080rtx and 7800x3D
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I live in Sweden unfortunately...

I dont need to play in the highest resolution, dont want to play in lowest either, maybe mid just above mid of that answer your question 😅
 
Leonidas Leonidas made a fantastic thread to help PC newcomers. I think he's disappeared now though.

I have a good spec PC and haven't upgraded in a few years. For that reason I'm not up to date on pricing so I can't help on that front.

Micron have locked their prices for 5 years and besides the 'bubble' that's supposed to burst at any moment hasn't burst and won't burst. It's only the beginning.

I do believe the best deals at the moment are found by going prebuilt.
 
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Osthyvel said:
I dont know if this is ok, i hope so, and bare with me as english aint my native language.

Well then, i bought my first console 40 years ago, i always loved playing on console and still do, never had any interest in PC until now.

I am giving up consoles in the future except Nintendos.

So i am trying to read and learn as much as i can, i dont know that much about all the components etc and it feels like a jungle, and my first question is; i dont need it right now, maybe in 2-3 year, is it smart to wait or is it better to buy one asap? Some say prices will go down but I dont know about that...

I know that memory etc cost a lot now because of ai.

I am sure there is a lot of talented people here that can give me some tips on what to buy.

I am really deep in VR since +10 years that is one thing, it has to be really good for vrgaming, i have both psvr2 and Quest 3 so the plan is to use probably q3 with the PC.

Budget around 2000$

I am very happy if you want to guide me into this new path in my life : )
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I don't think prices are coming down anytime soon. If anything, you might still be able to get a decent rig at a not-so-outrageous price now.

Are you doing a prebuilt or would you rather build it yourself? The draw of the prebuilt is the simplicity and more out-of-the-box experience. The custom build will end up cheaper for the same performance and you will learn a lot more from the experience.
 
Gaiff said:
I don't think prices are coming down anytime soon. If anything, you might still be able to get a decent rig at a not-so-outrageous price now.

Are you doing a prebuilt or would you rather build it yourself? The draw of the prebuilt is the simplicity and more out-of-the-box experience. The custom build will end up cheaper for the same performance and you will learn a lot more from the experience.
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I can build it by myself no problem.
 
Osthyvel said:
I live in Sweden unfortunately...

I dont need to play in the highest resolution, dont want to play in lowest either, maybe mid just above mid of that answer your question 😅
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GPU choices:
5070Ti
9070xt
5080

CPU choices:
7800x3D
9800x3D

I'd go 9070 or 5080 depending on what pricing you can find and how important ray tracing is. The AMD card might age a little better, but the Nvidia card might get you better frame today with RT games. For CPU choice, watch a video about the 9800x3D. It will surely focus on comparisons to the 7800x3D. The upgrade isn't staggering. Pretty much right in line with the pricing difference. I think they would both fall off about the same time in the future.
 
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Osthyvel said:
I live in Sweden unfortunately...

I dont need to play in the highest resolution, dont want to play in lowest either, maybe mid just above mid of that answer your question 😅
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1440p is the sweet spot imo.

Ultrawide 21:9 3440x1440 specifically :messenger_beaming:

It's part of nice things on PC, getting exotic options that are not available on consoles. Ultrawide is cinematic as fuck.
 
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Osthyvel said:
I can build it by myself no problem.
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Couch gaming or will you be playing on the monitor? Maybe a mix of both? If you have a good TV and can hook it up to your PC and will be doing most of the gaming there, then no point in splurging in a super high-end monitor. If not, then the monitor might end up being the most expensive part of your system.

I'd recommend at least starting with a simple guide to understand all the parts and the basics of a build. It may seem daunting at first, but it's really just assembling a puzzle with dedicated parts that all serve a specific functions and must be placed in a specific spot.

This is short enough and to the point.

 
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Prices might not improve, but if you are fine waiting I'd recommend that. A new generation of CPUs and GPUs are expected to release next year. Getting those for a new build will hopefully let the build last long.

You'll also allow time for the Steam Frame to be released and see what the VR market looks like.
 
Gaiff said:
Couch gaming or will you be playing on the monitor? Maybe a mix of both? If you have a good TV and can hook it up to your PC and will be doing most of the gaming there, then no point in splurging in a super high-end monitor. If not, then the monitor might end up being the most expensive part of your system.

I'd recommend at least starting with a simple guide to understand all the parts and the basics of a build. It may seem daunting at first, but it's really just assembling a puzzle with dedicated parts that all serve a specific functions and must be placed in a specific spot.

This is short enough and to the point.

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I will hook it up to my Oledtv and play with Ps/Xbox controller 100%!

I just recently bought a 27 inch 144hz monitor to my home office, so it will probably do the job if i want to play on a monitor?
 
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SScorpio said:
Prices might not improve, but if you are fine waiting I'd recommend that. A new generation of CPUs and GPUs are expected to release next year. Getting those for a new build will hopefully let the build last long.

You'll also allow time for the Steam Frame to be released and see what the VR market looks like.
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Yeah, this is a good advice, and i have some time to learn more about everything.
 
Radical_3d said:
1st advice: don't buy a machine in the middle of a component crisis, for fuck's sake.

No further advices.
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It's never going back. Waiting a year will add 30%+ to the cost. There's nothing coming down the pipe on PS6 that the systems suggested in this thread will not slaughter. Remember, it all has to run on the PS6P.

If there's a guy waiting for brand new cars to go back to $15,000, how do you think he's doing today?
 
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simpatico said:
It's never going back. Waiting a year will add 30%+ to the cost. There's nothing coming down the pipe on PS6 that the systems suggested in this thread will not slaughter. Remember, it all has to run on the PS6P.

If there's a guy waiting for brand new cars to go back to $15,000, how do you think he's doing today?
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Exactly this. Now is going to be the best time to buy. It sucks, but that's the reality.

We'll be lucky if prices level out here in the next few years and we start seeing discounts again. The floor won't go below where it is now, though.
 
It's a great time to get into PC Gaming, just for the small price of a reasonable car you can get a mid tier gaming pc that will perform roughly equivalent to a PS5, also, no discs to worry about, there's zero physical games on PC, just think all that space with no clutter of game boxes to worry about, enjoy.

I forgot to mention the fact, you won't pay to play online, but the good news is, within hours you will get harrassed by cheaters so much, you won't even want to play online anymore! it's a win win.
 
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Use the PC part picker site and buy the parts you want has they become available for a decent price. Since your not in a rush to build a PC right now you can take your time and buy the parts one by one.

For the GPU:
1. Don't buy a AMD GPU it's cheaper but not worth it because Nvidia GPUs get all the new features and better ray tracing.

2. AMD CPUs are very good for gaming but I find that intel is better if you plan to do more with your PC besides gaming. But you really can't go wrong with a good AMD CPU.

3. Don't buy a GPU that is less than a 5070 TI. If you can afford it try to get a 5080 but if not stick with a 5070 TI because it will last you for years especially if you plan to play at 1440p. It can also do 4K/ 60fps but I would lean on a 5080 if you want 4K.

4. If you buy a prebuilt get one from Corsair or cyber power pc I have had very good results from both.

5. If you plan on building your PC, look up how to build the PC for the specific PC case you plan to get before buying it just so you can see the build process with that PC case before hand.

6. You don't need a monitor, you can connect your PC to your living room TV just like a console and use steam big picture mode to get a console like experience.

7. PC gaming is more convenient now compared to years ago but it's still not as simple as using a console especially if you get a low/entry level PC. If you have zero interest in tinkering sometimes don't get a PC, the PS5 Pro is still a decent deal for price to performance.
 
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Get Nvidia if you want to do VR. At least 5070 or 5070 Ti. $2000 isn't enough these days unfortunately, especially in Sweden. I'm running a 4090, but PC VR games eat everything you can throw at them and leave wanting for more.
 
MrAlwaysRight said:
It's a great time to get into PC Gaming, just for the small price of a reasonable car you can get a mid tier gaming pc that will perform roughly equivalent to a PS5, also, no discs to worry about, there's zero physical games on PC, just think all that space with no clutter of game boxes to worry about, enjoy.

I forgot to mention the fact, you won't pay to play online, but the good news is, within hours you will get harrassed by cheaters so much, you won't even want to play online anymore! it's a win win.
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Never go full retarded and if you can't help go back to your low res games.
 
Luipadre said:
This shit aint gonna be any better. Nothing will go back to normal, thats just how it goes. These scummy companies will make sure of that
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simpatico said:
It's never going back. Waiting a year will add 30%+ to the cost. There's nothing coming down the pipe on PS6 that the systems suggested in this thread will not slaughter. Remember, it all has to run on the PS6P.

If there's a guy waiting for brand new cars to go back to $15,000, how do you think he's doing today?
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And you're willing to bet other people's money on that, right?
Logan Stark Reaction GIF by Black Rifle Coffee Company

I'd trust that "we're not going back" more if in my personal experience, in this forum and elsewhere, the Venn diagram of the people saying that and the ones who said "NFTs are the future" and "cripto is forever" wasn't the most perfect circle ever.
 
MrAlwaysRight said:
It's a great time to get into PC Gaming, just for the small price of a reasonable car you can get a mid tier gaming pc that will perform roughly equivalent to a PS5, also, no discs to worry about, there's zero physical games on PC, just think all that space with no clutter of game boxes to worry about, enjoy.

I forgot to mention the fact, you won't pay to play online, but the good news is, within hours you will get harrassed by cheaters so much, you won't even want to play online anymore! it's a win win.
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Join the honorable Marathon on PS5. Each unit making up any PC MP game CCU is just a sucker who doesn't realize he's being hacked. Most gamers don't realize the small Marathon population is a bonus. You're only playing with other digital samurai. They respect the creed and craft.
 
I think it's best to go with a prebuilt in this day and age. Especially if it's your first gaming PC.
Also get a nice warantee. Bestbuy usually has some decent builds.
Save yourself a lot of headache with your first.
THEN get into customizing/upgrading it later on as you do more research.
 
Osthyvel said:
I am very happy if you want to guide me into this new path in my life : )
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Its a product my dude, not a lifestyle choice!

Being real though; think about what you're planning on using the PC for. Just using a PC for gaming is a waste of its capabilities, so if you are looking to use it as a console replacement you might be better off focussing on form-factor and convenience. Maybe SteamOS will be preferable to Windows ?
 
Radical_3d said:
I'd trust that "we're not going back" more if in my personal experience, in this forum and elsewhere, the Venn diagram of the people saying that and the ones who said "NFTs are the future" and "cripto is forever" wasn't the most perfect circle ever.
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Did every financial institution in the world bet their future on NFTs? Refresh my memory on that. Unless you're reading this from a middle eastern oil producing country, your future standard of living is irrecoverably tied to the success of AI in your region. Sucks, but it's where we're at homie.

If every financial institution crumbles, I'll be able to buy ram again for 32GB @ $99! Genius stuff at work here.
 
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MrAlwaysRight said:
It's a great time to get into PC Gaming, just for the small price of a reasonable car you can get a mid tier gaming pc that will perform roughly equivalent to a PS5, also, no discs to worry about, there's zero physical games on PC, just think all that space with no clutter of game boxes to worry about, enjoy.

I forgot to mention the fact, you won't pay to play online, but the good news is, within hours you will get harrassed by cheaters so much, you won't even want to play online anymore! it's a win win.
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Oh god, he went full retard rodrigolfp rodrigolfp

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OLED_Gamer said:
7600x/9600x with a 9070xt has served me very well for couch 4k gaming (i.e. overpowered console). No need for 7800x3d/9800x3d.
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I would say this is true for current games, but the small price you pay for the x3D suffix could buy you an addition half gen at the EOL of this machine. More so than any other component.
 
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It depends on what your playing also. I have two 1440p monitors and I have games that refuse to launch in full screen because they're older so there's a lot of tinkering to get them working. Just be prepared for some configuring games to get them working on PC compared to console.
 
Gaming forums are kind of the worst place to ask this question.

You're better off researching a trusted place to build a custom pc and going there to ask them for their thoughts & opinions before purchase.

Obviously you should do some research on your ideal build first beforehand.
 
If you aren't confident in building your own, or just don't want to go that route yet, it's ok to get a prebuilt unit. There are some decently priced ones available from different venders. You can even find ones without a graphics card or a lesser graphics card and just do a swap of the graphics card, selling the lesser one it came with.

Even after the pc is built, you will be doing a LOT of configuration tweaking at a system level and per game. Lots of perks too though as I'm sure you're aware.
 
Radical_3d said:
And you're willing to bet other people's money on that, right?
Logan Stark Reaction GIF by Black Rifle Coffee Company

I'd trust that "we're not going back" more if in my personal experience, in this forum and elsewhere, the Venn diagram of the people saying that and the ones who said "NFTs are the future" and "cripto is forever" wasn't the most perfect circle ever.
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So should everyone wait for SW2, PS5 and XSX to return to their launch prices too?? 🤡
 
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Osthyvel said:
I will hook it up to my Oledtv and play with Ps/Xbox controller 100%!

I just recently bought a 27 inch 144hz monitor to my home office, so it will probably do the job if i want to play on a monitor?
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What TV do you have? You might not even need a monitor, the TV alone could be enough.

"But the TV is too big." I'm using a 48-inch LG C4 as my main display, I use it in native 4K for normal desktop stuff and it's totally fine. For gaming I switch to a custom 3840×1600 resolution, so it becomes ultrawide. Way more comfortable to play like that.
 
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something like this is within your budget, and will be relatively future proof:
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the AM5 socket will be supported with future CPUs, the case has enough space for bigger GPUs, and 32GB of memory will probably be fine for the next 10 years or so.

maybe if you wanna be super save, get a bigger power supply instead of the 1000W one in that build here... but not sure if that's needed
 
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kevboard said:
something like this is within your budget, and will be relatively future proof:
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the AM5 socket will be supported with future CPUs, the case has enough space for bigger GPUs, and 32GB of memory will probably be fine for the next 10 years or so.

maybe if you wanna be super save, get a bigger power supply instead of the 1000W one in that build here... but not sure if that's needed
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I think 5070 with 16GB of system memory would be a better "now" system. You can always add another RAM stick later, but I wonder how long 12GB of VRAM will be relevant...

Or you can go cheaper with AMD build:

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9070XT:

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Maybe 1TB is enough? Another -100$.
 
forsakkenSoul said:
What TV do you have? You might not even need a monitor, the TV alone could be enough.

"But the TV is too big." I'm using a 48-inch LG C4 as my main display, I use it in native 4K for normal desktop stuff and it's totally fine. For gaming I switch to a custom 3840×1600 resolution, so it becomes ultrawide. Way more comfortable to play like that.
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I have a 55inch LG Oled, my plan is to game on that 😀
 
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