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Insomniac games post statement about layoffs
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Shit sucks. Hopefully all the affected people land on their feet
Salty Popsicle
Banned
If a studio whose game sold 10+ million copies in less than 6 months isn't safe from layoffs, then no studio is.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
they were working on MP/GaaS games as well.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Insomniac carried this gen on their backs for Sony and still got hit with layoffs. Imagine how sad Sony’s first party output would be this gen without them. I’m not even the biggest fan of their games but if anyone should’ve dodged the axe it should’ve been them. Shutting down Media Molecule would’ve been smarter than pissing these guys off.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Sucks. I bought the 3 Spider-man games and R&C day 1. I did my part.
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dragonyeuw
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Ratchet and Clank 2016
Spider-man
Miles Morales/Spiderman remastered
Ratchet and Clank A Rift Apart
Spider-man 2
A company which produced the above content is subject to layoffs. This fucking industry feels so gross right now.
Spider-man
Miles Morales/Spiderman remastered
Ratchet and Clank A Rift Apart
Spider-man 2
A company which produced the above content is subject to layoffs. This fucking industry feels so gross right now.
semiconscious
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well, they apparently revived their blog for a total of 3 posts last september:
https://www.mediamolecule.com/blog
other than that? while the front page of their website says 'we're expanding!', the 'show me the jobs!' section is blank:
https://www.mediamolecule.com/careers
oddly enough, the most detailed section of the website is the 'our kitchen' page. mmm, tasty:
https://www.mediamolecule.com/about/kitchen
& that's about it. quite the little studio, alright. what is it they do, again?...
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JordiENP
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Nintendo studios are safe
SEGAvangelist
Member
I wonder if they canned this lady:
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
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daninthemix
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Nuts that successful studios are laying people off. What gives?
TVexperto
Member
who is she?I wonder if they canned this lady:
SEGAvangelist
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semiconscious
Member
why did i know you'd love this?...
TheUsual
Gold Member
What got me rolling was the inclusive lunchroom. I mean, what the hell? It's a God damn cafeteria.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And not just being big sellers. Insomniacs's leaked roadmap literally has around 10 years of game plans from more Spiderman to Wolverine to each game having MP modes etc.... Its not like Insomniac is running out of work to do.
But to be fair, business is business. Doesn't matter if youre Apple or Bob's Bakery. If there's employees around who arent worth keeping they they get gutted. Unless a company is going broke and needs to shut down a factory or something, most layoffs are typical of what weve seen lately in tech.... 5% or 10% kind of thing. Which means the vast majority of people are still kept which is good news.
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squarealex
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It's Joever
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
They did. However, they were charging Sony an insane amount of money for each game.
Apparently the Miles DLC cost $157 million. That 7 hour DLC set in the same damn city cost $157 million?
Ratchet a 10 hour game cost $81 million? What?
And Spiderman 2 cost $300 million while they developed Wolverine in the background. So in 5 years they have spent north of $600 million of Sonys money. Thats way too expensive for any studio.
DragonNCM
Member
Damn......this needs to be reminder for all of us, we are only counted as profit, the very moment we are not profitable we become dead weight.
Reminds me of Roman & Egyptian society...straight up SLAVORY society & nothing changed last 5 centuries...they only rename it in capitalism & democracy !!!
Reminds me of Roman & Egyptian society...straight up SLAVORY society & nothing changed last 5 centuries...they only rename it in capitalism & democracy !!!
Solidus_T
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"Thanks for making a big hit that earned us millions! Now pack up your desk by the end of the month.
"
Shits_McGiggles
Member
There is a very high likelihood that not only will she not be laid off, but that she will be promoted for some reason.I wonder if they canned this lady:
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
I wonder if they canned this lady:
Pretty sure Mary Jane is in for the long haul.
Mahavastu
Member
They have to pay insane amount of license fees to Marvel.
According to this they had to pay $106mio to Marvel alone.
The development of the game itself was $82Mio, which sounds like quite a lot but overall reasonable. I guess doing it fast (must be finished for PS5 launch) during covid increased the price a bit.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
$81 is reasonable but again, $120 million for Venom DLC is nuts.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Thoughts and prayers.
Crispy Gamer
Member
Usually games are expensive because they take so long to make or the creation of a new engine, what I don't understand is how Insomniac seems so efficient with how fast they make games but at the same time have a ballooning budget I don't get it are open world games becoming unsustainable from a budget standpoint or is it a studio issue
xBlueStonex
Member
Hopefully they layed off their DEI department that forced latinx nonsense and BLM into Spiderman 2.
tommib
Member
Do you work at an international corporation or government institution? If anything, they’ll invest more in DEI. It’s a booming business. I see more and more people from my team moving to DEI management positions across the company. You guys are in for a rough awakening if you think this is going anywhere.
DEI is only getting started.
xBlueStonex
Member
Go woke go broke.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This catchphrase doesn't work here.
SM2 has sold 10 million copies already. Its individual sales aren't the problem.
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ChorizoPicozo
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NikuNashi
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DEI bubble has burst, thankfully it will be dissapearing like a stubburn turd that finally rounds the ubend after an epic struggle .
Vyse
Gold Member
Same my friend.
xBlueStonex
Member
SM2 sold that much off the IP and good reputation of Insominac. Isn't it strange how much the hype died down for SM2 right after release?
ZoukGalaxy
Member
We had a collection of delayed game statements, now we are going to get a collection of layoff statements, that's pretty sad.
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Jinzo Prime
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Dr. Wilkinson
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Nintendo’s not having a bad year. They’ve never been more profitable than they are during the Switch era. Layoffs would make no sense.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
We don’t know what their P&Ls look like. I’m sure those tell a different story.
tkscz
Member
Sony is a bigger company than it's Video Game division. Their movie division for example had far more misses than hits. So if the company at large is doing bad, the entire company will suffer.
Compare that to Nintendo who is 100% a video game company. As long as the games are selling, they are fine.
proandrad
Member
No, it's just a giant coincidence MJ looks nothing like the model she is supposed to be based off of and exactly like some random Insomniac games employee.
Fake
Member
You guys mistake sales with profit.
There are so much money from Sony being burned.
tmlDan
Member
Honestly, Americans make too much money, or at the very least expect too much in a business that is built off of delayed revenue (ie most money comes during release, almost nothing after). What i mean is, they say they can make more at other companies, but those companies are software sub services, constant revenue client services(retainer, or hourly based pay serving a client), or they sell an annual product.
Video games take too long to make, if you want your 150k salary to be safe, and other employees to be safe you have to make games faster at less cost, but for you to spend 315MM on a game that only took 5 years, that's massive bloat imo, regardless of the licensing fee from Disney.
People say Nintendo is safe, yea, cause they don't make nearly as much as American game devs. It's really strange how devs are so flabbergasted this happens.
Video games take too long to make, if you want your 150k salary to be safe, and other employees to be safe you have to make games faster at less cost, but for you to spend 315MM on a game that only took 5 years, that's massive bloat imo, regardless of the licensing fee from Disney.
People say Nintendo is safe, yea, cause they don't make nearly as much as American game devs. It's really strange how devs are so flabbergasted this happens.
Fake
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Nintendo will be safe, at least if they continue with their vision.
Nintendo mission about not focus into graphics fidelity, their games cost much less to make, some of their games don't even have voice actors, their games take ages to get a discount, sometimes don't even get a discount at all.
Nintendo mission about not focus into graphics fidelity, their games cost much less to make, some of their games don't even have voice actors, their games take ages to get a discount, sometimes don't even get a discount at all.
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