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Detroit's Beautiful, Horrible Decline

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Revelations said:
Thats simply not true. The amount of bullshit in this thread is horrendous. I lived in Detroit. The very center of Detroit. And the crime rate there is no more than what you'd find in Chicago. Trying to paint it like its Baghdad is not for the faint of heart. Your statement is way over exaggerated.

These photographers specifically picked area that are delapidated. Every city has buildings and sites that are rundown and gutted. These guys just picked the most obvious vacant buildings they could find and chose to paint the city as a rotting sesspool.

I agree with the bolded part, you can find abandoned buildings in any big city on this earth. I've been to Detroit a few times (family lives in Ferndale, a suburb in Detroit), and my cousins used to scare me about how messed up the actual city is so I believed them, but I've never been afraid for my life driving through the city. I must say that Comerica Park is a really nice place to watch a baseball game, and GO WHITE SOX!
 
mamacint said:
Interesting, didn't Miami go through decades before the '80s where it was basically an abandoned shithole, before it experienced a rebirth? I wonder if it stayed relatively prosperous like LA if all those old buildings would've been torn down too.

eh? 80's was the shithole period and in some parts it still is
 
Ogami Itto said:
I agree with the bolded part, you can find abandoned buildings in any big city on this earth. I've been to Detroit a few times (family lives in Ferndale, a suburb in Detroit), and my cousins used to scare me about how messed up the actual city is so I believed them, but I've never been afraid for my life driving through the city. I must say that Comerica Park is a really nice place to watch a baseball game, and GO WHITE SOX!
Melbourne has a similar population density/size to Detroit but I haven't seen anywhere near the number of dilapidated buildings around here than displayed in those links. Especially such significant buildings such as skyscrapers and theatres. Though Melbourne is nowhere near as reliant on a single industry as (I imagine) Detroit is, so maybe that is the difference?
 
Revelations said:
Thats simply not true. The amount of bullshit in this thread is horrendous. I lived in Detroit. The very center of Detroit. And the crime rate there is no more than what you'd find in Chicago. Trying to paint it like its Baghdad is not for the faint of heart. Your statement is way over exaggerated.

These photographers specifically picked area that are delapidated. Every city has buildings and sites that are rundown and gutted. These guys just picked the most obvious vacant buildings they could find and chose to paint the city as a rotting sesspool.

Sorry bro but the numbers are against you on this one. Look up any statistics regarding highest crime rate per population of the major US cities and Detroit is number 1 everytime. It also always tops the most dangerous cities to live in lists everytime too. Sure other cities have some bad areas and some abandoned buildings but they are no where near the shithole that is Detroit.

BTW the downtown area of almost any city looks nice, I don't think that's being argued here.
 
kpop100 said:
Sorry bro but the numbers are against you on this one. Look up any statistics regarding highest crime rate per population of the major US cities and Detroit is number 1 everytime. It also always tops the most dangerous cities to live in lists everytime too. Sure other cities have some bad areas and some abandoned buildings but they are no where near the shithole that is Detroit.

BTW the downtown area of almost any city looks nice, I don't think that's being argued here.

It fluctuates every year and Detroit is not #1 on a consistent basis. Check your sources and facts again. Google US city highest crime rates and you will be hard pressed to find Detroit in the spot for major city with the highest crime rate per capita on a yearly basis.

2000-N.O 42.1 D.C. 41.8

2001-N.O. 44.0 Detroit 41.3

2002-N.O 53.1 D.C. 46.4

2003-N.O. 57.7 D.C. 44.7

2004-N.O. 56.0 Baltimore 43.5

2005-N.O. 42.8 Jan- Aug 31 Baltimore 42.0 Jan-Dec 31

2006-N.O. 70.0 Detroit 47.5

2007-N.O. 85.0 Detroit 45.8

2008-N.O. 55.0 or 64.7 NOPD vs FBI still highest of major cities St. Louis 47.0
 
Revelations said:
Thats simply not true. The amount of bullshit in this thread is horrendous. I lived in Detroit. The very center of Detroit. And the crime rate there is no more than what you'd find in Chicago. Trying to paint it like its Baghdad is not for the faint of heart. Your statement is way over exaggerated.

These photographers specifically picked area that are delapidated. Every city has buildings and sites that are rundown and gutted. These guys just picked the most obvious vacant buildings they could find and chose to paint the city as a rotting sesspool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Crime rate's higher than Chicago.
 
kpop100 said:
Sorry bro but the numbers are against you on this one. Look up any statistics regarding highest crime rate per population of the major US cities and Detroit is number 1 everytime. It also always tops the most dangerous cities to live in lists everytime too. Sure other cities have some bad areas and some abandoned buildings but they are no where near the shithole that is Detroit.

BTW the downtown area of almost any city looks nice, I don't think that's being argued here.

The main reason that the City gets so high up in the list is because it's missing a million people. If those million+ people still resided in the city, crime would still be high, but the crime/population average would place the city significantly lower on the "top crime" cities list.
 
Revelations said:
I dont see a crime rate there for Chicago on that source.
So you're gonna ignore every other criterion on that list because statistics can't be tabulated for Chicago's rapes?
 
Phobophile said:
So you're gonna ignore every other criterion on that list because statistics can't be tabulated for Chicago's rapes?
Yes, I will. For a quite a few reasons. Since that data is just from 2007, rates fluctuate definitively every year. And since then Detroits crime rate has dropped proportional to its population.
 
Revelations said:
Thats simply not true. The amount of bullshit in this thread is horrendous. I lived in Detroit. The very center of Detroit. And the crime rate there is no more than what you'd find in Chicago. Trying to paint it like its Baghdad is not for the faint of heart. Your statement is way over exaggerated.

These photographers specifically picked area that are delapidated. Every city has buildings and sites that are rundown and gutted. These guys just picked the most obvious vacant buildings they could find and chose to paint the city as a rotting sesspool.
I agree with you. From my experience, Detroit is not as dangerous as most portray it to be. I have visited Detroit multiple times and did not feel imperiled. There are also many beautiful areas of Detroit. Aside from Downtown, with its beautiful parks and the riverfront, Detroit has many beautiful and historic theatres. The Fox Theatre and Masonic Temple are my two favorites. I also have friends and family who live in the beautiful Indian Village and Woodbridge residential districts; however, the closing of the Bell Isle Aquarium was tragic.
 
Revelations said:
That dosnt constitute your negative impulse to the City. It is still the center of the American Auto Industry. And it is still more valuable than some other cities in the USA.

Considering it's my negative impulse to the city, then what I feel constitutes that does in fact constitute that.

How's American auto been doing the past 30 years? Exactly.
 
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