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Anandtech reports on ATI R520, RV520, RV515

xexex

Banned
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2532


AnandTech's R520, RV530 and RV515 Pre-NDA Extravaganza

The part that everyone wants to hear about is, of course, the Radeon X1800 based on ATI's long awaited R520 GPU. Due for introduction later this quarter, the 90nm R520 will be a 16-pipe, 16-shader processor design with a number of different SKUs based on the GPU. Internal ATI documentation specifically claims that the R520 series will ship at launch, just as NVIDIA's 7800GTX and 7800GT series shipped and launched on the same dates.

Common features to all R520 based boards include the new 90nm lead free manufacturing process, a Xilleon based TV encoder, SM3.0, H.264 decode acceleration and CrossFire support. Also expect to see HDTV options for all 90nm ATI cards in the near future, although they may be limited to the All In Wonder series for R520.

At the top end is the Radeon X1800 XT; this 16-pipe R520 will feature a 600MHz core clock, with a 256-bit memory bus connected to 512MB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 700MHz. The 600MHz core clock will give it a lower fill rate than the GeForce 7800 GTX (24-pipes at 430MHz), while the 700MHz memory clock will give it more memory bandwidth than the stock GTX (600MHz). Much like the GTX, the X1800 XT will be priced at $599. The X1800 XT will feature two DVI outputs with HDCP support. The lower fillrate seems alarming at first, but consider several factors. First of all, ATI's traditional core design can do "more" per clock cycle (at least on the R420 design) than NVIDIA. Secondly, R520 has a lot of little tweaks including hardware asissted H.264 decoding. Just last week, we also received details about ATI's revamped memory controller which operates on an internal 512-bit ring bus. There is a lot to speculate about performance, but even with similar fill rates as NVIDIA, there is a strong possibility that other workings in R520 will differentiate the card on a real world performance level.

Next up is the Radeon X1800 XL, which is positioned between the GeForce 7800 GTX and the 7800 GT. The XL drops the core clock down to 550MHz, and the memory clock down to 625MHz. Other than the lower clock speeds, the XL is identical to the XT, meaning it still has 512MB of GDDR3 memory connected to a 256-bit memory bus. The X1800 XL will be priced at $499. Both the X1800 XT and X1800 XL appear to be dual-slot designs from previous roadmaps and existing box art. The roadmap also details that there will be HDCP support for the X1800 XL and X1800 XT via Texas Instrument's TFP513PAP DVI transmitter.

Priced at $449, we have the X1800 Pro, once more a 16-pipe R520 design but this time the core runs at 500MHz. The Radeon X1800 Pro only has 256MB of memory, also running at 500MHz, but still retains the same 256-bit memory bus. What is interesting about the Radeon X1800 Pro is that its fill rate and memory bandwidth appear to be identical to that of NVIDIA's GeForce 7800GT; coincidentally, so does its price. The reference design for the X1800 Pro features a single VGA and a single DVI connector, with no HDCP support.

The last member of the R520 family is the Radeon X1800 LE, which disables four of the pipelines of the R520 taking it down to a 12-pipe design. The LE runs at 450MHz with 256MB of 450MHz GDDR3 memory. Once again we're dealing with a 256-bit memory bus, and this time a $349 price tag. The outputs are identical to the X1800 Pro. Both the Pro and LE cards are single slot cooling design, thanks to their lower running clock speeds.

According to our roadmaps, it looks like ATI will abandon the "vanilla" nomenclature for future products. For example, instead of a plain X1800, instead we will get an X1800 LE. Likewise, on our previous roadmaps components that were named with the non-XT non-LE non-Pro non-XL name will thus become "LE" parts. Certainly a good move on ATI's behalf, as "vanilla" X800 cards are hard enough to explain to readers.

The roadmap also refers to R580, and that the card is working in-house at the moment. R580 is essentailly a clock ramp and pipe ramp of R520, but both of those details have not been disclosed yet (even to AIBs). Unforunately, the R580 will not ship at the same time as R520.

rest of the article begins here

bring it on ATI! :D
 

Pimpwerx

Member
Meh. 16pp for the R520? Underwhelming much? Not that it won't win benchmarks, but NVidia beat them to the punch this year. Kinda disappointing considering what expectations were. But I look forward to the benches. PEACE.
 

Kleegamefan

K. LEE GAIDEN
WTF....16 pipes and *LESS* fillrate than GF7800GTX :lol

After the big delay and "TEH G70 KILLAR" hype, underwhelmed doesn't even begin to discribe it...

At least its the same price as a GF 7800GTX :lol

Thanks, but I think I'll pass on ATI's NV30 :)
 

xexex

Banned
but no.....GeForce 7800 GTX's real fillrate is only 6880 Mpixels / 6.88 Gpixels @ 430 MHz since it has 16 ROPs which R520 will have also.
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
ummm....this isn't official by any means at all. This was Anandtechs roadmap that they've had for a while. If you read the site, they said they are NOW just going under NDA because they're going to get review cards soon. That's when they'll know the real facts of the cards.

And not like it matters much, but NV still operates as a 16ROP card, even though it's 24pp. Pipelines aren't the be all end all that they used to be. We're already getting to a point when we can get 1600x1200 with a lot of eye candy going at decent framerates, this should be the time when we get all the fancy features. Here comes Ati with HDR+AA methinks!!!!!!!!!
 
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