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[tkscz]

I mean, with games costing $100 million or more to create now a days, we've reached that point where making a profit off software is becoming harder and harder. So yeah, taking a chance on a game that has a much higher chance of reaching profit overtime is the obvious choice even when it too is beginning to fail.

Really only Nintendo and Japanese third parties can get away with taking a chance on single player games. Choosing proprietary in house engines, less focus on pushing technology and keeping budgets down.

 

[WoJ]

Yeah this is my last gen.

If the future route is live service trash, im out.

This is kind of where I'm at in a sense. This gen has been so disappointing. I really don't see myself buying the next Playstation until it's at the end of its lifecycle. And I am still debating about the possibility of building a PC instead.

I'll stick with Nintendo, but eventually they catch up to the mainstream trends of the industry.

My backlog is so big anyways, there's not a ton of new stuff that interests me.

 

[TransTrender]

Good games will always exist.
Don't buy cynical garbage.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Will the studio making Concord be safe?

Concord will be Helldivers 2 for the 2nd half of 2024 for Sony. Book it.

 

[Puscifer]

I would smack, grab and motorboat the fuck out of those wet titties

 

[IAmRei]

• Indie Games are not the answer to this problem. Indie game studios shut down all the time, you just don't hear about it like you would a Tango Gameworks or Arkane Studios. It is very difficult for Indie Games to get funded and find a publisher.

can confirm this as well, often indies burn over their own money, because partnership with publisher become harder than some years ago where everything is easier.

 

[solidus12]

I’m still baffled that she’s working in a PlayStation owned studio, Sony Santa Monica; given how much she LOVES Xbox.

 

[Punished Miku]

Concord will be Helldivers 2 for the 2nd half of 2024 for Sony. Book it.

Its the most interesting 1st party game from them thats currently announced. If it hits PC day 1 and is actually good it could be huge. Art style so far is on point. Needs to launch at $50.

 

[feynoob]

I’m still baffled that she’s working in a PlayStation owned studio, Sony Santa Monica; given how much she LOVES Xbox.

If they fire her for that, then they are shit.
Work and hobby shouldnt be mixed. What she does outside of her job is none of their business.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Some mouth breathers think this chick isn’t hot? Fuck you, is what I say to those losers.

 

[solidus12]

If they fire her for that, then they are shit.
Work and hobby shouldnt be mixed. What she does outside of her job is none of their business.

Of course, but she seems to focus a lot on Xbox… kinda weird to go work for their direct competitor…

 

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That is an objective truth. Those businesses exist in a world where capitalism is the leading economic/political system. Their success and failure is the result of the benefits and downfalls of capitalism. The end goal of capitalism is profit for whoever owns the product or service.

Although not stated explicitly, the Publishing Director of Larian followed a similar thread last month when talking about layoffs. This is also not just a games industry, but in tech as a whole right now.

Microsoft, Take-Two, Google, etc are posting record profits, approving higher and higher compensation packages for their CEOs, yet they're laying off hundreds, or thousands of employees.

The reason is they're prioritizing profits over the people who are working to generate those profits for them or the products that generate those profits. I personally know of 2 companies that laid off hundreds of workers in Q2 FY24 so they could bring their operating costs below amount that would make the overall end of year numbers look better for investors. Both those companies have not only hired back the number of people they laid off, but one of them has actually hired more than they laid off.

What you're describing is human greed and it exists in any and all political or economic systems. It's part of the human condition. You could eliminate all capitalist systems right now and replace them with any system of your choice and you wouldn't fix a damn thing. People would still, and always will be, greedy to the detriment of society at large.

 

[TGO]

Didn't she defend IGN's Stellar Blade review.
I mean she says shit and sometimes she right and then the dumbest shit comes out of her mouth.

Capitalism. The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

Yeah people say shit like that and in this case the games industry wouldn't exist without Capitalism.

I like Alanah, I think if she was around in the late 2000's she would great and wouldn't spew so much crap with a heavy dose of Captain Obvious
But she is a product of this time in every sense of the word.

 

[Arsic]

Some mouth breathers think this chick isn’t hot? Fuck you, is what I say to those losers.

Amouranth made $57 million dollars on only fans in 4 years.

Alanah is a retard. A body like that and the same gamers who drop fat stacks on Amouranth would simp for Alanah too.

Girl is sitting on generational wealth…

 

[nemiroff]

Meh, regurgitated "news" from a nobody. Anyway, the games industry has been expanding for a long time, and is bigger than ever after having been boosted by the pandemic. Something has to give eventually. It's part of the cycle and balance. And when something dies, something else and possibly better will most likely materialize in its place.

Competing for time isn't a new concept even in the games industry. Many of us had thousands of hours in some games decades ago.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Amouranth made $57 million dollars on only fans in 4 years.

Alanah is a retard. A body like that and the same gamers who drop fat stacks on Amouranth would simp for Alanah too.

Girl is sitting on generational wealth…

Yup. She’s halfway there with the photos she’s posted. If she doesn’t plan on having kids, she should totally make that only fans money.

I do feel bad for the next generation of kids whose moms whored themselves out on only fans and the kids get made fun of for it.

 

[Hugare]

Some mouth breathers think this chick isn’t hot? Fuck you, is what I say to those losers.

Dont wanna rain on your parade, but those are made by AI

I like Alanah, but those points are obvious

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

she has some good points

 

[FoxMcChief]

Dont wanna rain on your parade, but those are made by AI

I like Alanah, but those points are obvious

 

[feynoob]

Of course, but she seems to focus a lot on Xbox… kinda weird to go work for their direct competitor…

Some people are just weird.

 

[Northeastmonk]

Dont wanna rain on your parade, but those are made by AI

I like Alanah, but those points are obvious

There’s that elephant.

AI should solve some of those problems right? I cringe at the thought of a big AAA live service game with generic art, generic gameplay, and 70% AI generated.

 

[Loomy]

What you're describing is human greed and it exists in any and all political or economic systems. It's part of the human condition. You could eliminate all capitalist systems right now and replace them with any system of your choice and you wouldn't fix a damn thing. People would still, and always will be, greedy to the detriment of society at large.

You know what? You are absolutely 100% correct. But like I said, it's the system we exist and operate in. It drives the decisions that these people are making. So when businesses are doing well, it's not unfair to attribute some or most of that success to capitalism. Same thing when they're doing poorly.

Embracer started collecting studios like a starving squirrel collecting nuts. Their goal was to stockpile IPs so they could profit from them. When that didn't work, they fired all the people who worked decades to create and build those IPs. The CEO who made the decision to spend all that money still has a very well paying job.

Yes, it's greed. But it's greed enabled and encouraged by capitalism.

I should point out that I'm not taking a specific position on the merits or capitalism here. Just pointing out that it's not unreasonable to attribute the current fuck up to it.

 

[March Climber]

This is kind of where I'm at in a sense. This gen has been so disappointing.

Yeah this is my last gen.

Good games will always exist.
Don't buy cynical garbage.

They can't help it, it's similar to hate-watching TV shows.

 

[feynoob]

Dont wanna rain on your parade, but those are made by AI

I like Alanah, but those points are obvious

Yeah, that is 100% an AI.

The hands, the chest, the handle shower, extra meat on one of her boobs.

Its scary how much bots can actually create an image like that.

 

[MagnesD3]

Masses are dumb, masses bring in money, money destroys art.

 

[Arsic]

Yeah, that is 100% an AI.

The hands, the chest, the handle shower, extra meat on one of her boobs.

Its scary how much bots can actually create an image like that.

AI free this one.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Some mouth breathers think this chick isn’t hot? Fuck you, is what I say to those losers.

Meh, very average imo, guess that makes me a mouth breather

Walk around South Beach in Miami awhile and she falls below average

But to her point she is just parroting what actual insiders have been saying

 

[Skelterz]

She’s really boring.

 

[feynoob]

AI free this one.

I mean, what can I say at this point.

 

[Robb]

She’s not wrong, but then again everything she’s saying is also pretty obvious.

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

Another excellent GAF thread where neck beards are simping over a 6/10 who is just parroting twitter talking points. Amazing.

 

[reinking]

I have no boner for Alanah Pearce but I thought she did a good job of laying the topic out where even A Fucking Idiot could understand what is going on.

 

[Little Chicken]

Hey let's add season passes to single player games!!

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Never liked this chick but this thread convinced me she has two solid points.

 

[Edgelord79]

I mean, with games costing $100 million or more to create now a days, we've reached that point where making a profit off software is becoming harder and harder. So yeah, taking a chance on a game that has a much higher chance of reaching profit overtime is the obvious choice even when it too is beginning to fail.

Really only Nintendo and Japanese third parties can get away with taking a chance on single player games. Choosing proprietary in house engines, less focus on pushing technology and keeping budgets down.

Pretty much this. Making the required profit to satisfy companies is getting harder to achieve with AAA budgets.

 

[dorkimoe]

I wish just once people could get past the fact shes a girl and listen to what she says. Some of yall never seen a woman before?

Games take way too long to make, too expensive and people beat them so quick.

 

[Arsic]

Another excellent GAF thread where neck beards are simping over a 6/10 who is just parroting twitter talking points. Amazing.

I’ll bite. Post a 10/10

 

[Madflavor]

Ya know there’s been a lot of “well this was obvious” posts on here, but I’ve see far too many people, especially on Gaf, be guilty of at least one of those talking points. You’re kinda overestimating how many gamers have their finger on the pulse of the industry.

 

[iorek21]

Nah, single player games won’t become scarce. Actually, it’s the key to success, really.

As I say time and time again, Fortnite, Warzone and GTA Online already capitalized on the live service market. People are not dropping those for some random copycat like Suicide Squad or whatever.

Single player games are events on itself. BG3 was huge, TotK was huge, Ragnarok, Spiderman, Hogwarts, hell, even smaller stuff like Jedi Survivor got engagement.

Gaming living through the phase that Hollywood was living a couple of years ago: thinking streaming and services were the key. Then came Barbenheimmer and they understood that people are willing to go to the cinema if the movie’s good.

Same thing will happen for gaming: they’ll fail and fail at live service stuff until something like BG3 comes out and wipes the floor.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Dont wanna rain on your parade, but those are made by AI

I like Alanah, but those points are obvious

AI and boob jobs, right? ALL THE SAME AS THE BIRD FLIES

I mean...

Like...

Boobjobs like...

Plastic surgery. Please, respect my rebrand.

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

I agree with most of what she said but i also don't like how she, on many occasions, says its capitalisms fault.

Oh they could always try alternative business models. There's that German company that payed all the employees the same. That lasted what, four months before the company keeled over?

 

[ShadowNate]

1. Make a Fun game.
2. Gameplay is King.
3. Art direction is more important then graphics.
4. Dont make woke shit.
5. Stop making gaas.
6. Stop seasson passes everywhere.
7. Respect your custumer.
8. Be fair with your mtx prices.

Kind of seems that Hi-Fi Rush meets all of the above and the studio still got axed.

 

[TransTrender]

I would smack and motorboat the fuck out of those wet titties

Those titties look infected.
It could be headcrabs for all we know.

 

[Ozzie666]

Off topic, best modern doctor. Needed more time to shine. Bust stil lthe best.

 

[tmlDan]

That is an objective truth. Those businesses exist in a world where capitalism is the leading economic/political system. Their success and failure is the result of the benefits and downfalls of capitalism. The end goal of capitalism is profit for whoever owns the product or service.

Although not stated explicitly, the Publishing Director of Larian followed a similar thread last month when talking about layoffs. This is also not just a games industry, but in tech as a whole right now.

Microsoft, Take-Two, Google, etc are posting record profits, approving higher and higher compensation packages for their CEOs, yet they're laying off hundreds, or thousands of employees.

The reason is they're prioritizing profits over the people who are working to generate those profits for them or the products that generate those profits. I personally know of 2 companies that laid off hundreds of workers in Q2 FY24 so they could bring their operating costs below amount that would make the overall end of year numbers look better for investors. Both those companies have not only hired back the number of people they laid off, but one of them has actually hired more than they laid off.

I am of the firm belief that capitalism is not the flaw, humans are. The constant need for growth is not necessary, companies don't have to go public and be traded on the stock market. Humanities inherent greed is the problem, not capitalism.

I didn't elaborate in my original post but to just casually blame a system set up to grow only if there is a need/want amongst society is not the primary issue.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Saw it yesterday and I 100% agree with her. It's fuckin' sad.

There has to be a way to get rid of the publishers alltogether and open some kind of independent and private company which won't be answering to shareholders and such (I know, but it is the only way to at least try and fix the situation we're in right now), cuz that's the main problem here - fuckin' capitalism and greed, they don't care about video games and people behind them at all.

 

[Dorfdad]

Maybe we start with making games cheaper and smaller in terms of gameplay. Growing up I played many great games that I spent endless hours on trying to get high scores on. Now games are 28-40hrs of fetch quest and drawn out stories. Sell games at 29.99 and have them be 10-15 hours experiences. If it sells make a sequel. Reduces development/ allows more creative opportunities, allows more risk /

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Look guys, we can shit on corpos all we want, how they ruined gaming etc but ever since this new generation of consoles, 80% of games are mediocre. PS4 era I can not even count how many games pleasantly surprised me and kept me going all night long. Now I turn on my new consoles and im like....urgh lets finish this level. Not saying the games are bad, they are ALL just safe. Everyone makes open worlds, bloat the hell out of them, sidequests are an afterthought with fetch me quests to prolong the length etc.

Lets take Redfall for example. Sure its corpos fault for pushing them to release it before its ready but as a whole...who thought another horde shooter is some game changer. Left For Dead did that in 2008. Every other game in the same genre is a copy of acopy of a copy. It was a shit game design anyway, Redfall without bugs would still be a mediocre, another of 100+ same gameplay titles. If studios actually made really good games, they wouldnt be shutting down left and right.

Again someone will say but its the corpos that are making them do this, be safe. Ok but what about the 2000s. NFS and COD were coming out even then every year; Hot Pursuit 2, Underground 1, Underground 2, Most Wanted, Carbon....all these games had at best 9 months development time, they were being pushed to put out a new game no matter what annualy. But obviously there was some imagination and passion to make the listed games as well as COD titles from that era fun and mega sellers. Theres no passion, its copy paste and as I sadi, mediocre games keep coming out and people wonder why it doesnt sell. Greedy higher ups always existed but the crap we get now is not even close to what people used to put out in a shorter amount of time.

Ill go back to NFS....they now have 2-3 years before the next title and those games are still SHIT. Souleless. Not to mention they use the same engine for like 10 years so its not like games are bigger and require more time because they are making everything from the ground up again..they have all the tools, just need new setting and story. But its all shit.

 

[Skifi28]

I have no sympathy for any consumers unsatisfied in the future. It was all right there at a cheap price and everyone spit on it. Yes I do blame consumers. Enjoy it, this is what you guys wanted.

n0b0dY gAvE xBaWx A cHaNce

 

[Loomy]

I am of the firm belief that capitalism is not the flaw, humans are. The constant need for growth is not necessary, companies don't have to go public and be traded on the stock market. Humanities inherent greed is the problem, not capitalism.

I didn't elaborate in my original post but to just casually blame a system set up to grow only if there is a need/want amongst society is not the primary issue.

The constant need for growth is because they're trying to generate more revenue to turn higher profits. Companies go public to increase their value and their access to capital so they can generate more revenue and turn higher profits. The whole point of capitalism is to generate profits. That is how businesses owned by private individual(s) operate in a capitalist economic system.

I'm not arguing that greed is not a problem or a factor. It certainly is. But the mechanism that makes this all operate is our economic system.

Having said that, I feel it's important to note that I am not against capitalism.