Nobody cared when Sony entered the market, and introduced a new low in terms of hardware reliability, with the PS1. I know people who have had to buy two to three systems back in the day. And I don't remember any outrage.Well, US only, right.
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Nintendo to be punished for this BS.
Son's joycons were sent for repairs about a year or so ago.
Now one is drifting again.
Pathetic hardware quality.
Got another stick drifting badly, and Nintendo's repair centers are shut down right now.
This was the final Joy-Con of my four not to need a drift repair. So that's 4 for 4.
Nobody cared when Sony entered the market, and introduced a new low in terms of hardware reliability, with the PS1. I know people who have had to buy two to three systems back in the day. And I don't remember any outrage.
Everybody cared! They just did so in small groups. Everyone I knew sat their PS1 on it's side or upside-down thanks to the cheap CD-Rom drive they used. I went through multiple PS1s and PS2s. So did most of the kids I knew back then. PS2 was infamous for DRE and general fall-apart. Always right out of warranty. Always right as a big game launched. They were pieces of Shitstation.
The internet just didn't exist yet so outrage was contained in little bubbles across the globe.
If i were Nintendo, i would take this very seriously. When "UFC Que Choisir" goes to court, they always win.Nintendo sued for planned obsolescence over Joy-Con drift
French consumers organisation UFC-Que Choisir announced that it's suing Nintendo for planned obsolescence and anti-cons…www.gamesindustry.biz
That many people actually use the Joycon controllers to play? Get a Switch Pro Controller ya lazy bums, problem solved
Edit: If anyone needs a class action lawsuit for controller drift, it's Microsoft. I've went through about six Microsoft wireless Xbox controllers in the last year. You so much as drop them or breathe on them the wrong way and the analog sticks get fked with drift.
After providing information on my Switch purchase yesterday, I received this today:
"Thank you for reaching out to us. We have filed a lawsuit against Nintendo regarding the Joy-Con drift defect. The lawsuit covers all owners of Nintendo Switch consoles and extra Joy-Con controllers. You can view the lawsuit here https://chimicles.com/cskd-files-class-action-lawsuit-against-nintendo-of-america-inc-relating-to-joy-con-drifting-issues/."
I don't believe Switch owners need to do anything - "the lawsuit covers all owners" and if it's successful, you should see a little something from it. The real goal is that Nintendo wake up to the issue and figure out a solution for it.
They continue to sell a faulty product to this day even after having acknowledged the issue. They deserve it.Nintendo knows the issue fixed 4 of mine no questions asked... This is bullshit lawyers making money..
They continue to sell a faulty product to this day even after having acknowledged the issue. They deserve it.
Wrong. I'm in Europe and I had to pay Nintendo €40 to fix. And I had to pay postage.Lol this isn't a Ford pinto that catches fire.
Send them in they'll fix it....
It took a lawsuit for them to acknowledge the fault and offer to fix it for free but not in all countries.Lol this isn't a Ford pinto that catches fire.
Send them in they'll fix it....
Fun fact, back in the day. I’m talking during the early parts of Japan’s economic rise. Japan had a similar reputation to what China has now in regards to their products feeling or being cheap. This eventually went away but for a whole generation of people (I would say people in their late 50s early 60s) Japan was often viewed as a place where cheap flimsy products came from.It's because everything is made in China now. That indestructible GameBoy? Made in Japan.
It’s not fine to continue selling products that are known to be faulty because Nintendo will repair. How about they repair the ones they haven’t sold yet and start selling products that aren’t faulty?Lol this isn't a Ford pinto that catches fire.
Send them in they'll fix it....
Nintendo knows the issue fixed 4 of mine no questions asked... This is bullshit lawyers making money..
Fun fact, back in the day. I’m talking during the early parts of Japan’s economic rise. Japan had a similar reputation to what China has now in regards to their products feeling or being cheap. This eventually went away but for a whole generation of people (I would say people in their late 50s early 60s) Japan was often viewed as a place where cheap flimsy products came from.
Yeah, was there a gag like that in Back to the Future or some other movie? Someone was like "damn, of course it doesn't work, it was made in Japan." to which the character replied "What are you talking about, only the best things are made in Japan."Fun fact, back in the day. I’m talking during the early parts of Japan’s economic rise. Japan had a similar reputation to what China has now in regards to their products feeling or being cheap. This eventually went away but for a whole generation of people (I would say people in their late 50s early 60s) Japan was often viewed as a place where cheap flimsy products came from.
Lol that’s cool. Never seen the movie. I might have my generation number wrong. It’s probably people in their late 60s early 70s that remember Japan being associated with cheap products.Yeah, was there a gag like that in Back to the Future or some other movie? Someone was like "damn, of course it doesn't work, it was made in Japan." to which the character replied "What are you talking about, only the best things are made in Japan."
I think it was Back to the Future, and I think that scene probably took place in 1955. That would sound about right, wouldn't it?Lol that’s cool. Never seen the movie. I might have my generation number wrong. It’s probably people in their late 60s early 70s that remember Japan being associated with cheap products.
I think it was Back to the Future, and I think that scene probably took place in 1955. That would sound about right, wouldn't it?
There was a time when their seal genuinely used to mean something. Being a Nintendo customer myself for 30+ years now, I can attest to the fact that when you purchased a Nintendo product in the 80s, 90s, and most of the 2000s, you were guaranteed to have a lasting product. One can also wonder how Satoru Iwata would've handled this situation, but that is wishful thinking.
The issue is with how the positioning is measured and what materials are used. It's not HAL effect sensor, but rather classic flat resistance measurement. Which then wears out, because they are rubbing metal againts graphite. Here is shown:The analog units in the joycons are just flawed. Moving the stick slides two “trays” inside the units that slide up/down, and left/right for the two axis. The entire unit is only less than 1/2cm in height so the centering spring is short with a pretty large diameter which makes it pretty inaccurate. This is why you can calibrate the joy con and have the drift return in a different direction. It’s not something you can fix permanently, it’s a straight up design flaw.
The other issue with the units are the use of weak brittle white plastic that degrades. There is no lubrication in the units from the factory so the two pivot points wear over time which also causes the units to center inaccurately as they become loose where they connect to the “trays”.
Most of the controllers on the market use identical analog units. Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo (pro controllers), and many aftermarket controllers use a unit that rotates two separate drums which indicate position. The centering spring in these units is smaller in diameter but is a heavier gauge and longer providing higher tension. The base of the units also has white grease inside so that the slide attached to the centering spring doesn’t wear as it slides around the base plate. On these units drift is usually caused when there isn’t enough of this grease and the pad wears against the base causing it to become uneven, which causes the spring to rest off center.
With $150-$200 controllers on the market , the best thing you can do is immediately open them up and apply lubrication inside the analog units and reapply every now and then. With maintenance they’ll likely never drift. This is extremely easy to do on the Xbone controllers and still pretty easy on the DS4 and SWitch Pro controllers.
With the joycons this isn’t even realistically a possibility. For starters they are very difficult to open without damaging them, let along doing it more than once. I’ve repaired one of these units and opening it up carefully found one of the weak white plastic parts was simply broken at it’s pivot point. Applying lubricant won’t stop the main issue with the spring design, and in general working on the joycons is tedious. There are multiple thin ribbon cables, loose wiring, and pinch points all over the place. Working on the WiiU game pad was easier than a Joycon. I would have preferred the slider from the 3DS to these units.
Nintendo should never have let this through.
This might seem like a dumb question, and I'm sure you've tired it but in case you haven't and it might help, have you tried to recalibrate center through the options menu on your Switch on any of your Joycons?
The real goal is that Nintendo wake up to the issue and figure out a solution for it.
See, all it took was making a GAF thread to complain about it!