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G/A/F? You can get away with murder if you say a gay man came on to you.

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Of all countries, it's Australia. Can't believe there's a law as ridiculous as this.

SMH: The Catholic priest fighting to repeal the homophobic law that shames Australia

In two Australian states, you can get away with murder if you say a gay man came on to you.

It's a historic law that's still on the books in South Australia and Queensland. It still has teeth. Just last month in South Australia, the "gay panic" defence was used as part of a successful appeal that granted a retrial to Joseph Lindsay, the killer of Andrew Negre. NSW was the last state to repeal it, in 2014. Every day this law is still on the statute anywhere in Australia is another day a killer could walk free without a murder sentence.

The outrage at such injustice has riled one unlikely campaigner on this gay equality issue: a Catholic priest. While the Australian Catholic Church lobbies hard against marriage equality to MPs, Telstra, or gay chief execs like Alan Joyce, Father Paul Kelly lobbies with just as much fervour from an altogether different angle. He thinks the "gay panic" defence is a "homophobic, demeaning, dangerous insult" to gay people and "allows killers to walk away with paltry sentences".

Father Kelly has labelled Australia an "international disgrace" for allowing wily lawyers to use this archaic provocation defence to get their clients' murder sentences downgraded to manslaughter when the victim was gay, or could be portrayed that way. New Zealand, Britain and California have all wiped away their gay panic laws.
 
Surprised to see it's a priest fighting it, but good on him. It's ridiculous that 'gay panic' could be used as a defense for anything.
 
Sounds kinda like the trans panic-defense wich is legal in many countrys and most states of the US.

And it is also actively used to get murders go free.
 
oh crap. once fox news hears of this they will be calling for a bill here in the us. i just can't stop thinking of the south park hunting episode though. But officer, he was coming right for me. as a bisexual man there's no way in hell i'm going to australia until this thing is fixed.
 
oh crap. once fox news hears of this they will be calling for a bill here in the us. i just can't stop thinking of the south park hunting episode though. But officer, he was coming right for me. as a bisexual man there's no way in hell i'm going to australia until this thing is fixed.

It's only two states - Queensland (Brisbane/Gold Coast are the most likely tourist destinations) and South Australia (Adelaide).
 
It's only two states - Queensland (Brisbane/Gold Coast are the most likely tourist destinations) and South Australia (Adelaide).

ok, thanks for the heads up. my insomnia led me to miss that. going on two complete nights with no sleep. sorry.

edit: but to be honest, i'm surprised g/a/f doesn't stand for georgia, arkansas/alabama, and florida considering the way things are here in arkansas.
 
On the plus side, the Victorian Government will offer an official apology to anyone prosecuted under historical anti-gay laws next week.
 
Gay panic isn't a legitimate legal defence anywhere in Australia. Using it is a one-way ticket to jail. It doesn't allow you to get away with murder, this is just flat-out wrong.

The guys defence would have had to be way more robust than a gay guy hit on him to get off.
 
"Well, obviously that must be Flori-- What? Please not WA, please not WA, yesssssssssssssss!"

Obviously this is terrible and an affront to civilised society. Get your shit together, Queensland and South Australia. It's just absurd that such innocuous bullshit could result in a court going "You know what, you're right. This IS lesser than murder."
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

The gay panic defense is used in multiple countries including the US. California was the first state to ban it and trans panic, in just 2014. Versus Australia where it isn't valid in all but two of eight states/territories.

The UK called it the Portsmouth Defense and the Guardsman's Defense.

What I mean is making this about Australia in particular will mislead people.
 
I feel like this is one of those laws you read about in those

"1500 laws you never knew existed"

Books you buy when you are a kid.
 
reminds me of a weird local by law that was discovered to technically be on the books in my home city of Leeds - it was still legal to shoot a scottsman in the eye with a crossbow across the river
It got removed swiftly as everyone could see it was a joke

I guess Australian law makers are idiots and can't see this for what it is either
 
How can we play the G/A/F game if the options aren't consistent? Or hasn't there been enough crazy news from Austria lately that it has been changed to Australia? This is at least the second thread within a week that disobeys the classic Germany/Austria/Florida or Georgia/Alabama/Florida formula. I can't live with this uncertainty.
 
How can we play the G/A/F game if the options aren't consistent? Or hasn't there been enough crazy news from Austria lately that it has been changed to Australia? This is at least the second thread within a week that disobeys the classic Germany/Austria/Florida or Georgia/Alabama/Florida formula. I can't live with this uncertainty.

It has always been Germany / Australia / Florida
 
reminds me of a weird local by law that was discovered to technically be on the books in my home city of Leeds - it was still legal to shoot a scottsman in the eye with a crossbow across the river
It got removed swiftly as everyone could see it was a joke

I guess Australian law makers are idiots and can't see this for what it is either
Heh, I heard of that law too, except I was always told it was York.
 
How can we play the G/A/F game if the options aren't consistent? Or hasn't there been enough crazy news from Austria lately that it has been changed to Australia? This is at least the second thread within a week that disobeys the classic Germany/Austria/Florida or Georgia/Alabama/Florida formula. I can't live with this uncertainty.

It has always been Australia afaik. Germany and Austria wouldn't make sense...they are practically the same.
 
Hmmm Maybe it was a Yorkshire bylaw then?
Either way silly law almost as silly as this one the Australians can't/won't get rid of

... and i was told it was Chester and it was Welshmen you could shoot from the castle walls during the day. Also Welshmen weren't allowed into Hereford after dark either.

Of course none of the laws are actually valid and have been superseded if not urban myths.
 
It has always been Germany / Australia / Florida
Just did some searching and it seems that in the beginning, it was actually either or. This has led to constant confusion regarding the rules of this game. Austria hasn't been used in quite some time though and was much more prevalent during and after the Fritzl case. Lately, it's usually Australia, so I'm just living under a rock.
 
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