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[TentPole]

In memorial I marathoned Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love, Charlie Wilson's War, Capote, and The Master. What a heartbreaking day.

 

[Doc Holliday]

You don't need to use a needle to use heroin.

I know, but I was specifically asking about using needles.

 

[nomis]

The Master had just been sitting there for over a year, I think I was holding off because I considered doing a There Will Be Blood rewatch first. Finally watched it tonight in PSH's honor.

This guy had it...

 

[StopMakingSense]

I know, but I was specifically asking about using needles.

Oh, I read your q. differently, sorry. Either way, yeah, fuck sticking yourself with a needle and having to find a vein.

 

[linsivvi]

In memorial I marathoned Boogie Nights, Punch-Drunk Love, Charlie Wilson's War, Capote, and The Master. What a heartbreaking day.

I'm planning to do my own marathon too. Would probably involve Punch-Drunk Love, Boogie Nights (If I can find the damn DVD), Almost Famous, Synecdoche New York and Magnolia.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I know, but I was specifically asking about using needles.

If you've done everything else already and want to go higher, using a needle becomes the obvious next step. It provides a far more intense sensation than snorting. I'd imagine Hoffman started sniffing coke considering that's such an easy first hard drug. And eventually after hearing how intense heroin is he tried it. At least that's the story I've heard over and over from addicts and former addicts (I used to volunteer at a rehab facility).

Given Hoffman's profession and environment we know coke was readily available. I wonder how long was he doing heroin though.

 

[RJT]

I'll never understand heroin addiction. I get that once your hooked it's tough to break the addiction, but it's the initial hit that i don't get. I can see how you can swallow e, smoke a joint, or sniff some coke for the first time . They seem so easy to get started on, but fuck man sticking a needle in your vein the first time seems like such a drastic leap.

Not to mention that popular media has always painted heroin/meth as a guaranteed downward spiral. Maybe some recovering addicts can explain what made them take the initial plunge?

R.i.P

Some guy on reddit wrote this in response to someone like you:

One doesn't just start doing heroin. Heroin is at the end of a long process of addiction, dependence and tolerance.
It often starts with pills, like Norco, either in a party setting (Norcos mixed with wine will make you drunker and higher) or because you got injured and were prescribed painkillers. Narcotics are highly addictive, so eventually tolerance builds an you start eating Vicodins. Why? Because the feeling of being high on a bunch of Vicodins is like swimming and floating on a cloud made of love and warm hugs from people you love. But soon you move to percocets because 6 or 10 vicodins aren't enough.

Eventually, you start hurting because of all the Tylenol they put in the Percocets. So then you hear from a friend about cold water extraction, You start purifying your Percs so you can get high and not feel like shit the next day. Then you start re-capsuling your powdered Percs because they taste like bitter ass. But you realize, wait a minute, if it's in powder form - you can snort it! Soon you realize crushing, filtering and snorting Percs is both really expensive and difficult. So your dealers says, hey, wait if you want, I can just sell you powdered heroin and it will get you that super warm and wonderful feeling you love without all that work, plus it is cheaper! So you start snorting heroin.

This works for a while, maybe even a long while. But the fact is, now you're a junkie. You look forward to the high more than anything else in your life. You ignore your kids, your job, your wife, all your hobbies have been long forgotten. The cycle of addiction however is far from over, and in all honesty snorting heroin is disgusting. Snorting things causes the residue to drip down the back of your throat. Unlike Cocaine, which gives a numb kind of cooling drip that is actually very pleasant, heroin gives you a slimy, earthy, woody, nasty altogether filthy type of post nasal drip.

The whole thing is worth reading.

 

[krrrt]

I'll never understand heroin addiction. I get that once your hooked it's tough to break the addiction, but it's the initial hit that i don't get. I can see how you can swallow e, smoke a joint, or sniff some coke for the first time . They seem so easy to get started on, but fuck man sticking a needle in your vein the first time seems like such a drastic leap.

Not to mention that popular media has always painted heroin/meth as a guaranteed downward spiral. Maybe some recovering addicts can explain what made them take the initial plunge?

R.i.P

You don't start out shooting it. You only start doing that when you're already deep in the grips of addiction.

Edit: feel free to PM any questions about addiction and I'll try to answer as truthfully as possible.

 

[TrumanBurbank]

Some guy on reddit wrote this in response to someone like you:

The whole thing is worth reading.

Wow.

Just wow.

Speechless

 

[StopMakingSense]

Some guy on reddit wrote this in response to someone like you:




The whole thing is worth reading.

Yeah, that process is very similar to Artie Lange's heroin addiction. I highly recommend anyone interested in how heroin addiction starts listen to the WTF episode with him from a couple weeks ago. It is very very good.

 

[lazybones18]

'A Most Wanted Man' director mourns loss of Philip Seymour Hoffman

Celeb tributes

 

[warthog]

Very sad. I liked the guy a lot.

Rest in peace.

 

[AppleMIX]

Reading some of the post about heroine addiction is terrifying.

Not even once.

Rest in peace.

 

[Roland Deschain]

Some drugs can be enjoyed recreationally. Not heroin. Never heroin. Anyway, rip.

 

[robertsan21]

another great actor down the drain due to drugs. Time to start cracking down on DRUGS governments of the world!

When are we going to war against drugs instead of OIL??? wtf!

Sad over this news, he was such a great actor

 

[Prime crotch]

another great actor down the drain due to drugs. Time to start cracking down on DRUGS governments of the world!

When are we going to war against drugs instead of OIL??? wtf!

Sad over this news, he was such a great actor

The real problem isn't the drug but what makes people turn to drugs; drugs are just an out, not a good one mind you. Also, the war on drugs has done nothing to stop production and instead made things worse.

 

[HK-47]

another great actor down the drain due to drugs. Time to start cracking down on DRUGS governments of the world!

When are we going to war against drugs instead of OIL??? wtf!

Sad over this news, he was such a great actor

The war on drugs is one of the most ineffective wars mankind has ever fought.

 

[Lafiel]

another great actor down the drain due to drugs. Time to start cracking down on DRUGS governments of the world!

When are we going to war against drugs instead of OIL??? wtf!

Sad over this news, he was such a great actor

The war on drugs has been about as effective as the war on terrorism..

 

[Joni]

another great actor down the drain due to drugs. Time to start cracking down on DRUGS governments of the world!

When are we going to war against drugs instead of OIL??? wtf!

Sad over this news, he was such a great actor

The war on drugs is the most ineffective, deadly, racist and anti-poor wars the US is holding.

 

[Tesseract]

yeah guys, about that post ...

 

[JaseC]

One of the best actors of all time. This one's tough to swallow.

Ditto. When I first heard about it I thought it was just a hoax.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

I'll never understand heroin addiction. I get that once your hooked it's tough to break the addiction, but it's the initial hit that i don't get. I can see how you can swallow e, smoke a joint, or sniff some coke for the first time . They seem so easy to get started on, but fuck man sticking a needle in your vein the first time seems like such a drastic leap.

Not to mention that popular media has always painted heroin/meth as a guaranteed downward spiral. Maybe some recovering addicts can explain what made them take the initial plunge?

R.i.P

You can smoke heroin till you need to up the high, then it's all over.

Anyway, has this thread covered this piece of shit from the horrible Australian newpaper, Daily Telegraph?

 

[Dabanton]

Wow at that headline.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

You can smoke heroin till you need to up the high, then it's all over.

Anyway, has this thread covered this piece of shit from the horrible Australian newpaper, Daily Telegraph?

And around we go. Disgusting headine. This is what the majority think of addicts.

You don't start out shooting it. You only start doing that when you're already deep in the grips of addiction.

Edit: feel free to PM any questions about addiction and I'll try to answer as truthfully as possible.

Absolutely true, I'd be curious to see how similar stories are. I didn't start shooting it, etc etc.

I'll also offer any personal insight via PM if anyone is interested.

 

[daffy]

Oh my god. What the fuck.

:/

 

[Kinyou]

I'll never understand heroin addiction. I get that once your hooked it's tough to break the addiction, but it's the initial hit that i don't get. I can see how you can swallow e, smoke a joint, or sniff some coke for the first time . They seem so easy to get started on, but fuck man sticking a needle in your vein the first time seems like such a drastic leap.

Not to mention that popular media has always painted heroin/meth as a guaranteed downward spiral. Maybe some recovering addicts can explain what made them take the initial plunge?

R.i.P

I could imagine that those people are already addicted to something else, but that drug just doesn't get them really high anymore, so they look for something bigger

 

[ComputerMKII]

You can smoke heroin till you need to up the high, then it's all over.

Anyway, has this thread covered this piece of shit from the horrible Australian newpaper, Daily Telegraph?

That's classless.

 

[linsivvi]

And around we go. Disgusting headine. This is what the majority think of addicts.

Pretty much what I would expect from a Rupert Murdoch newspaper. Zero class.

 

[captainnapalm]

You can smoke heroin till you need to up the high, then it's all over.

Anyway, has this thread covered this piece of shit from the horrible Australian newpaper, Daily Telegraph?

Oh my God. That's ironic that they're taking a shot like that, because that headline speaks volumes about what scum are working at that paper.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

I could imagine that those people are already addicted to something else, but that drug just doesn't get them really high anymore, so they look for something bigger

As pointed out intravenous becomes a new path to experiencing the reality of the high. After snorting, smoking, whatever, it becomes too normal. IV use ups the ante, and since one is already in too deep that first hit is like being touched by god. This may be hyperbole to most but those that have had a taste of a hit delivered like that know exactly what I'm talking about.

Whenever I talk about it I get a brief sensation; the propensity to use the drug never leaves, but it's all about how you navigate daily life. The farther away you get from active use it does become easier, but there are so many factors in addition that can propel a clean user back to it. Five years, twenty years, one year, it doesn't matter. After you've had a taste it's a daily fight. But it does get easier.

 

[entremet]

I knew a few heroin addicts. Shit is horrible and powerful.

Everyone has their krytopnite sadly, you just hope it's not life threatening.

 

[Kak.efes]

He was genuinely good. One of the more understated actors. Saddened to hear he's gone.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

James Lipton talking about PSH on Morning Joe (MSNBC).

 

[dosh]

You can smoke heroin till you need to up the high, then it's all over.

Anyway, has this thread covered this piece of shit from the horrible Australian newpaper, Daily Telegraph?

Stay classy, Daily Telegraph.

 

[Deleted member 57681]

"PSH always kept his kids out of the spotlight; here, have a photo with them and their junkie actor dad!"

Fuck this piece of shit tabloid trash.

 

[eXistor]

I never knew he was addicted to drugs. Such a shame. His movies will serve as acting masterclasses for generations to come probably.

 

[cicero]

How pointless and horrible.

R.I.P. Philip Seymour Hoffman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi2XCsPKlY8

 

[entremet]

Wasn't he sober for 23 years?

 

[cicero]

Wasn't he sober for 23 years?

He relapsed sometime last year and put himself into rehab for 10 days last May. Sadly that wasn't enough.

 

[MIMIC]

Personally, it always amazes me how people even turn to drugs. I can honestly say that I am AFRAID to try drugs. I almost never tried alcohol because I thought I would become an alcoholic. >_<

 

[Futureman]

Wasn't he sober for 23 years?

wow really?

It's been big in the news in Pittsburgh lately that 20 or so people died in January from fentanyl laced heroin. I wonder if this is what got him?

Very sad. I'll try to catch some of his movies I missed. The Master is first.

 

[moggio]

You can smoke heroin till you need to up the high, then it's all over.

Anyway, has this thread covered this piece of shit from the horrible Australian newpaper, Daily Telegraph?

Owned by News Corp. of course.

 

[Yopis]

Sad news me and some friends will watch Love Liza this week.

Rip.

 

[zoukka]

Goddamn drug culture. Always taking our best and brightest entertainers.

Or maybe the culture that drives people to using drugs.

 

[entremet]

Personally, it always amazes me how people even turn to drugs. I can honestly say that I am AFRAID to try drugs. I almost never tried alcohol because I thought I would become an alcoholic. >_<

Addiction is a very interesting and has been studied for years. Some people can handle many types of drugs fine and never get really addicted and others struggle for years.

 

[Dyno]

How sad. Poor Philip. Professionally he seemed on top. Perhaps his home life was more difficult.

No needle drugs, not ever.

 

[Ikki]

Mission: Impossible 3 - his low key menace made the film.

I agree, MI3 is kinda underrated, I found it really entertaining.

 

[f0nz0]

Why rich people turn to drugs is amazing to me, I'm not saying money cures everything but it gives you so many options in life.

 

[sixteen-bit]

RIP

 

[killertofu]

I don't really get sad from actors/famous people who pass, but goddamn PSH was a great actor.