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Husband travels 160 miles to kill man having an affair with his Wife

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Dram

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/border-patrol-agent-accused-fatal-shooting-21406970
A U.S. Border Patrol agent was facing a pending murder charge Thursday in the shooting death of a Central Texas man who he believed was having an affair with his wife, authorities said.

Adam Garibay was arrested after sheriff's deputies say he led them on a high speed chase. Investigators say it all began early Thursday when he allegedly bound his wife with duct tape and put her in handcuffs in their Corpus Christi home before forcing her to reveal the name of the man she was seeing.

Garibay then drove about 160 miles northwest from Corpus Christi, which is along the southern Texas Gulf Coast, to a home near the town of Hondo where he fatally shot 35-year-old Keith Martin
, Brown said. Martin's father and brother were at the home during the shooting, the sheriff said.

Garibay fled the scene and led deputies on an 18-mile chase west to the town of Sabinal before the officers forced him off the road, Brown said.

He said Garibay resisted arrest and was brought under control with a stun gun. Brown said deputies believed Garibay might have tried to overdose on medication.

Corpus Christi police have charged Garibay with assault and unlawful restraint and issued a warrant for his arrest on those counts, Brown said. Garibay's wife was treated for minor injuries, according to Corpus Christi police in a statement.
 

Vyroxis

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He'll go to prison, another guy is dead, and his wife will have to live with the fact that her need to get dicked ruined three lives.

Nobody wins.
 
Or: don't kill people.

killing people is surely the worse crime, but from the husbands perspective he won. The wife is surely more upset and guilty feeling, the husband mistakenly probably feels that he did well.

There really is no lesson here not to kill people, everyone knows that. The man will go to jail for life or die depending on the state, but I'm sure he probably knew that would happen when he decided to drive all the way to this guys house and kill him.

I actually would agree, don't cheat on people, especially not on mentally unstable people/psychopaths

just break up with them and get a restraining order if need be
 

Ekdrm2d1

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He allegedly bound his wife with duct tape and put her in handcuffs in their Corpus Christi home before forcing her to reveal the name of the man she was seeing.

How could you do this to a loved one? It's rage I believe.
 
True, but also she's the root of the cause. Without her cheating, the husband wouldn't have killed the man.

This mentality on GAF always baffles me.

People cheat all the time, and do not end up getting murdered. Cause murder is you know...much worse than cheating.

But in any thread here about someone murdering someone else for cheating, people have got to be all 'Welp, that's what they get!' and sympathize and shit. It's weird.
 
My goodness. At first I was going to say something completely inappropriate but then reading the entire thing, this guy is crazy. I feel terrible for the family lost a love one because of some women's irresponsibility. Ugh..... Disgusting.

True, but also she's the root of the cause. Without her cheating, the husband wouldn't have killed the man.

..... You can not be serious. She was irresponsible but she is in NO WAY RESPONSIBILE FOR HIS ACTIONS! W.... T.... F!?
 

Zebra

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People already blaming the woman. Holy crap your priorities are mixed up.

She deserves absolutely ZERO blame for what her husband did.
 
True, but also she's the root of the cause. Without her cheating, the husband wouldn't have killed the man.

I'd argue that he's the root of the cause. If he never proposed to her, she would have never been able to have an affair, and the husband wouldn't have killed the man.

In other words, that isn't really a logically sound argument in my opinion. The man is dead because another man killed him. That is the cause.
 
This sucks all around. The guy who murdered someone is obviously a scumbag; being cheated on sucks, but killing someone isn't the answer.

But let's not leave out the wife and other guy, who are assholes too for having an affair. Sure, she shouldn't have gotten bound and interrogated like that, and he didn't deserve to die, but they still pulled a scummy move themselves.
 

Espada

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Moral of the story: Don't cheat on your husband / spouse.

Exactly. Awful behavior from both husband and wife.

It's well known and documented that people react terribly to infidelity, just another reason not to cheat. And this guy must've been absolutely fuming to have bound his wife and forced her to give him the name of the guy, drive 160 miles, and then shoot him while relatives are home. What the hell, the anger must've fried his brains.
 

commedieu

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Guys, all of you victim blaming, as usual...

You understand we have laws in this country to abide by? Shooting people to death isn't due process (unless done by the police, hur hur), but falling victim to illegal crimes isn't the fault of anyone besides the shooter... If she didn't get married to the guy, she wouldn't have been shot either... and people wouldn't be raped if they didn't drink and wear certain outfits.

Come on. We need to move on to pretend we are a civil society, not paint anyone at fault for being shot except the person extinguishing life. Stop supporting, condoning, or giving the nod to people who shoot those who you feel are morally wrong. You cant shoot people.
 

mackattk

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I don't understand how people will get mad at the person that their SO cheated with. If my SO cheated on me, I would be pissed at her and not at the guy that she slept with.
 

The Adder

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This mentality on GAF always baffles me.

People cheat all the time, and do not end up getting murdered. Cause murder is you know...much worse than cheating.

But in any thread here about someone murdering someone else for cheating, people have got to be all 'Welp, that's what they get!' and sympathize and shit. It's weird.

I imagine their thinking goes something like

"Well that guy is clearly a lunatic. What could the rational person have done or not done to prevent someone being dead."

Not that it's a good argument, but I imagine that's the thought process.
 
Exactly. Awful behavior from both husband and wife.

It's well known and documented that people react terribly to infidelity, just another reason not to cheat. And this guy must've been absolutely fuming to have bound his wife and forced her to give him the name of the guy, drive 160 miles, and then shoot him while relatives are home. What the hell, the anger must've fried his brains.

Just stop. Murdering someone and cheating on them aren't even in the same sport, let alone the same ballpark. Just because someone makes someone sad is no reason to kill someone and it isn't at all comparable.
 

Espada

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Agreed. He probably didn't even have to wear an adult diaper.

Holy crap, I remember that lady. An otherwise intelligent woman (she worked for NASA, I believe) reduced to a crazy stalker.

Kano on the Phone said:
Just stop. Murdering someone and cheating on them aren't even in the same sport, let alone the same ballpark. Just because someone makes someone sad is no reason to kill someone and it isn't at all comparable.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said they all behaved terribly, while assuming that readers are rational enough to understand that murder is worse than cheating (thus not worth mentioning the obvious).
 
I'd argue that he's the root of the cause. If he never proposed to her, she would have never been able to have an affair, and the husband wouldn't have killed the man.

In other words, that isn't really a logically sound argument in my opinion. The man is dead because another man killed him. That is the cause.

There can be multiple reasons for incidents. Obviously the shooting is the major one, but that doesn't absolve the wife for doing something terrible herself.
 

Ekdrm2d1

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This mentality on GAF always baffles me.

People cheat all the time, and do not end up getting murdered. Cause murder is you know...much worse than cheating.

But in any thread here about someone murdering someone else for cheating, people have got to be all 'Welp, that's what they get!' and sympathize and shit. It's weird.

I'm not going on a murderer defense force. The husband is wrong for killing the lover and should be set to die for it. (Or should be in jail until he dies of natural causes.)

I was just chiming in with another perspective, to make the thread more active and readable. We all have a different mind with different opinions. You can not think without the wife cheating the guy would have still killed the man. The women was the root of the problem, but as others have stated it's not her fault the husband is a psychopath. There are many ways to handle the problem, the guy did not have to go murder somebody..
 
This mentality on GAF always baffles me.

People cheat all the time, and do not end up getting murdered. Cause murder is you know...much worse than cheating.

But in any thread here about someone murdering someone else for cheating, people have got to be all 'Welp, that's what they get!' and sympathize and shit. It's weird.

Its because your posts seem to be trivializing the cheating (which I'm sure is not what your doing). This is one of the worst nightmares for a man. You have to understand why people would say something like that (even if they are wrong and being hyperbolic).


edit: To be clear murder is wrong, he's a piece of shit for doing it and hopefully will be in prison for the rest of his life. But I hope she has some guilt for helping kick starting all of this.
 

Dennis

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So he shot a total stranger who owed him nothing but the wife whose loyalty he could reasonably expect, and who betrayed him, is unharmed?

The logic of that always escaped me.
 

commedieu

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I imagine their thinking goes something like

"Well that guy is clearly a lunatic. What could the rational person have done or not done to prevent someone being dead."

Not that it's a good argument, but I imagine that's the thought process.

The process is that they can understand the need to murder someone for infidelity. Its a giant insecurity as well, which is why eveyones chest puffs up to convey a grey area of responsibility around a shooting. I'd imainge its from folks that have been cheated on, or who fear it -- that are the ones giving any sort of reaction to murder, other than "Throw that insane fuck in jail."

Don't really need to go any deeper do we?
 

FODEA

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The process is that they can understand the need to murder someone for infidelity.

Don't really need to go any deeper do we?

That's clearly it. I mean you're completely right.

It's entirely true that this man is the first human being on the planet to feel rage, anger and want to kill someone. He's also clearly the first to act on it as well.

Oh the horror.

If you're going to strawman, I'll join in with you.
 

Doran902

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I don't think anyone knows how they would react until they were in that situation(unless you were in it). What he did was way worse than cheating (cheating is still terrible, if your willing to cheat get out of your relationship). But don't assume he was a terrible husband and caused the cheating. Everybody has a switch that can be flipped and nobody knows how much it would take to cause it to go.
 

Diablos

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Shooting someone is way too extreme, but you have to feel for people who got cheated on for no good reason. If it wasn't an abusive relationship or something along those lines cheating is pretty shitty.
 
Its because your posts seem to be trivializing the cheating (which I'm sure is not what your doing). This is one of the worst nightmares for a man. You have to understand why people would say something like that (even if they are wrong and being hyperbolic).


edit: To be clear murder is wrong, he's a piece of shit for doing it and hopefully will be in prison for the rest of his life. But I hope she has some guilt for helping kick starting all of this.

I am sorry, but trivializing cheating when compared to murder is sorta the sane thing to do. Cheating is wrong, sure, but murder is fucking murder. Everyone always wants to jump on board and blame the woman in these threads, like cheating--->murder is the 'rational' response and she should have expected it, like she jumped in front of train or something. It's disgusting to me.
 

commedieu

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That's clearly it. I mean you're completely right.

It's entirely true that this man is the first human being on the planet to feel rage, anger and want to kill someone. He's also clearly the first to act on it as well.

Oh the horror.

If you're going to strawman, I'll join in with you.

Oh stop.

You know full well that in this specific instance, GAF has a large amount of people muddying right and wrong with "Well (and its generally she) She shouldn't have cheated." Instead of responding to the act of killing someone. None of what you're saying, has anything to do with original human beings either.
 
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