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Doctor Who: Time Of The Doctor |OT| 11's hour is over now... The clock is striking 12

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Hey Who-gaf. I've been doing a new-Who rewatch lately. I just finished Love and Monsters and I'm about to get ready to watch Fear Her...

I know none of you here really know me, but in case I don't make it back alive I just wanted to say, from the bottom of my heart, that a lot of you are fucking weirdos. Like seriously... you know who you are.
You should have just skipped Fear Her. Love and Monsters has some funny parts and is decent at the beginning. Fear Her is just pure AAARRRGGGHHH, and not in the pirate sense.
 
My cousin just got the Bluray box set and I borrowed season 1 as I was curious to see what quality would be like.

They look terrible, super soft like upscales. I was going to buy them, glad I didn't.
 
Been wondering for some time now, why does Terry Nation and his estate own most of the rights to the Daleks? I know he had his hand in their creation but Raymond Cusick did their design and never got any rights to them. And considering they were producing something for the BBC shouldn't it be the sole owner of the Daleks? It was their show. What makes Terry Nations situation so different or was it the sole popularity of the Daleks that enabled him to be given said rights.

It was the way they did rights back in the 60s. Even though the Daleks were written for Doctor Who, Nation kept half of the intellectual property rights of the Daleks, with the other half being for the BBC.

As such, they need to negotiate with his estate in order for the Daleks to be used. If I recall correctly, the contract stipulates that the Daleks have to appear at least once a year.

There is something weird about it all, though. The Cybermen are only a few years older and they don't have to talk to Kit Pedler's estate. There is something weird and specific about whatever Nation did back then. There's also something weird like he doesn't own both the design and the name - it's one, not both. Of course one is useless without the other.

Interesting tidbit - when it looked fucked in Series 1, RTD drew up ideas & a background for who the Time War would've been with instead of the Daleks. The design he drew was a metal sphere with protrusions attached with a deeply twisted person inside. It was the Toclafane, which he later used as a concept in series 3. But imagine if the war had been between the Time Lords and twisted, far-future humans, which is what that race is! Would've been a fascinating emotional bullet point.
 
I mentioned it a couple pages back, but I just started watching new-Who for the first time, and I'm realizing I made such a huge mistake by neglecting Doctor Who for so many years, even though I knew it was probably right for me.

I just finished series 2 yesterday and holy shit, this show doesn't pull any punches. Too bad I won't catch up by dec. 25th, but I'm really enjoying it so I don't mind. I didn't think Fear Her was that terribly bad, but it was weak alright. The series finales so far are something else though.

As soon as I catch up I might start watching the old series. Are those 1-hour episodes as well?
 
My cousin just got the Bluray box set and I borrowed season 1 as I was curious to see what quality would be like.

They look terrible, super soft like upscales. I was going to buy them, glad I didn't.

That's because they are upscales. Doctor Who wasn't shot in HD until Planet of the Dead, the first of the 2009 specials.

The special was the first Doctor Who episode to be filmed in high-definition television resolution. The move to HD had previously been resisted for two major reasons: when the show was revived in 2005, high-definition television had not been adopted by an adequate portion of the audience to be financially viable; and special effects were considerably more expensive to create in high-definition than in standard-definition. "Planet of the Dead" was used as a switch to HD because of the show's reduced schedule in 2009 and because the filming crew had become experienced with the equipment while they were filming Torchwood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Dead#Filming
 
So Who Gaf, I've started buying these



I saw they had made a series of the Titan figurines for the 50th, one for each Doctor, and now I've decided I need to buy them all -_-

They cost like 15 bucks each, this is going to be painfully expensive and annoying due to the fact they come in Blind Boxes. Also annoying is I don't have any of my favs yet out of the ones I've gotten, no Troughton, Pertwee or McCoy :(
 
So Who Gaf, I've started buying these



I saw they had made a series of the Titan figurines for the 50th, one for each Doctor, and now I've decided I need to buy them all -_-

They cost like 15 bucks each, this is going to be painfully expensive and annoying due to the fact they come in Blind Boxes. Also annoying is I don't have any of my favs yet out of the ones I've gotten, no Troughton, Pertwee or McCoy :(

15 bucks for blind bags? Holy shit, the guy who thought this was a prick.
 
So Who Gaf, I've started buying these



I saw they had made a series of the Titan figurines for the 50th, one for each Doctor, and now I've decided I need to buy them all -_-

They cost like 15 bucks each, this is going to be painfully expensive and annoying due to the fact they come in Blind Boxes. Also annoying is I don't have any of my favs yet out of the ones I've gotten, no Troughton, Pertwee or McCoy :(

Holy shit, I need these, all of them. Don't have any money to spend though, the holidays are expensive this year.
 
No, you typed them

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"Hello, the TARDIS!"
 
Nice. Pretty much confirms 2 spoilers:

- That the those gathered don't want The Doctor to speak his name as they think it'll open the time lock and restart the Time War

- We find out what's behind that door from the god complex.
 
Huh. Never knew Neil Gaiman and RTD are in agreement that The Corsair is a mysterious, unnamed character that appears in Sarah Jane Adventures.
 
You mean the Shopkeeper?

Yeah. Well, unnamed in a real sense, I guess. They call him the shopkeeper but he says they'll find out who he is in time. I just never realized they were the same character. Seems that was intended to be a wider plot line too, stopped by Liz' untimely death. :(


Also, that trailer -- I have a sneaking suspicion one shot from it might be from during the regeneration itself... based on previous spoilers.
The shot of crazy winds blasting the TARDIS and exploding a few Daleks. Sort of matches the description of the regeneration that leaked...
The wig looks particularly shit in some parts of that trailer. Shame. :(
 
It was the way they did rights back in the 60s. Even though the Daleks were written for Doctor Who, Nation kept half of the intellectual property rights of the Daleks, with the other half being for the BBC.

As such, they need to negotiate with his estate in order for the Daleks to be used. If I recall correctly, the contract stipulates that the Daleks have to appear at least once a year.

They also have to approve all redesigns. Supposedly, they don't like change very much. This is basically why in 50 years, the most radical redesign the base daleks ever had was basically just making them larger with different colors, and a couple of rare variations.

The 90s spider-daleks never came to be, but I wonder if the family had approved it yet or not.
 
They also have to approve all redesigns. Supposedly, they don't like change very much. This is basically why in 50 years, the most radical redesign the base daleks ever had was basically just making them larger with different colors, and a couple of rare variations.

The 90s spider-daleks never came to be, but I wonder if the family had approved it yet or not.

How they approved that god awful shit in 2010 I do not know.

Oh, wait. Toy sales! Sod the nation estate. Screw 'em. All they care about is money.
 
Extended trailer from BBC America: Link

One thing I really like about the Moffat era, or maybe it'll be specifically for the 11th Doctor, is the idea of the Doctor having friends and acquaintances across the galaxy that you don't initially meet on screen. Part of me wishes they hadn't brought back Jenny and Vastra so much because it's one of the best parts of A Good Man Goes To War.
 
They also have to approve all redesigns. Supposedly, they don't like change very much. This is basically why in 50 years, the most radical redesign the base daleks ever had was basically just making them larger with different colors, and a couple of rare variations.
I've never heard of design changes requiring approval before. But a big part of why the Daleks remained unchanged for so long is because their props kept getting reused to keep the show under budget; original Shawcraft Dalek sections were still showing up in "Remembrance of the Daleks" some 25 years later, for instance.

The new series tried to bring in the "new paradigm" Daleks which seemed like an attempt to get closer to Cusick's original designs, but I don't think audiences liked the redesign which would explain why they've rarely been seen since.
 
- We find out what's behind that door from the god complex.
I wonder if what was behind the door was the Twelfth Doctor? It makes sense, as Eleven knows he'll have to go at some point but, at the same time, and akin to how Tennant felt, he doesn't want to go.
 
Huh that woman in the trailer (forgot her name)
clearly knows The Doctor. Could it be... The Rani??? (yeah right)
 
Huh that woman in the trailer (forgot her name)
clearly knows The Doctor. Could it be... The Rani??? (yeah right)

He does bullshit a lot, but Moffat has explicitly said
it's a long-time friend we've never seen before, ala Vastra/Jenny/Strax.

More real spoilers from interviews with Moffat/BBC-sanctioned set photos:
She's the 'Goddess of the Papal Mainframe' (mentioned previously), and in one of the episode pictures appears to get one of those Dalek stalks installed into her forehead at some point, so probably gets 'converted' to their side.
 
Matt and Arthur were mates long before they were cast in their respective roles - that's why there's such good chemistry between the Doctor and Rory. I think that's part of why Arthur was cast, even! I think we've been lucky where all of them have loved each other off-set as well so far, probably strongest with Tennant & Tate and Smith & Gillan.

Whoa, I didn't know this.

Considering the friendship and relationship of the characters in Matt and Karen, I suppose that's what always kept Rory from feeling like a third wheel to us and instead an equal to those two.
 
He does bullshit a lot, but Moffat has explicitly said
it's a long-time friend we've never seen before, ala Vastra/Jenny/Strax.

More real spoilers from interviews with Moffat/BBC-sanctioned set photos:
She's the 'Goddess of the Papal Mainframe' (mentioned previously), and in one of the episode pictures appears to get one of those Dalek stalks installed into her forehead at some point, so probably gets 'converted' to their side.

Ah, I haven't been keeping up with that stuff.
I guess it's still a possibility though, you can never know with the man who actually brought Gallifrey back after all of his bullshitting. Although I'm not sure if I would even want her to return.
Just wondering, was it ever explained how
these Dalek stalks work? Do the victims actually get to keep their personality etc or is it all just an act?
 
Holy crap, it's
the Doctor's room! I was sure that would be Grampa Hurt... maybe not. Also, "The Time War will begin again?" oh nooo

Also an hour length? Not bad. Not bad.
 
Holy crap, it's
the Doctor's room! I was sure that would be Grampa Hurt... maybe not. Also, "The Time War will begin again?" oh nooo

Also an hour length? Not bad. Not bad.

I really wished they would keep it ambiguous with
the room being pretty much him
, but whatever, it's all cool beans.
 
Just about to watch God Complex again on Netflix. It's a great episode in my opinion.

The God Complex was one of a very select few episodes that I hated after watching it first time. It was only upon rewatches that I actually grew to like it.

For some reason it reminds me a lot of the Seventh Doctor era and I'm not really sure why. Maybe the whole surrealist, Earth setting but not quite, random celebrity guest star stuff.
 
Whoa, I didn't know this.

Considering the friendship and relationship of the characters in Matt and Karen, I suppose that's what always kept Rory from feeling like a third wheel to us and instead an equal to those two.

They did some stage work together, I think, and I suppose in any production they'd have been the two youngest people or close to it, so of course they'd band together. Matt talks about it in a Confidential episode during Series 5 - I remember distinctly he says he found it fun because the Doctor & Rory's relationship is sort of opposite to how they are in real life, where he's the one getting teased constantly.

Thing about British TV is it's very incestuous, I suppose. Everybody knows everybody. Like in the year before he played the Doctor he was a customer to a prostitute played by Billie Piper in the present day and was in a big BBC period drama with her (in some very Doctor-Companionish scenes) - so it was weird for her filming the 50th, she said, as she had to divide her on-set attentions between a legend, HER Doctor, and a good mate!

Everybody knows everybody, it's always funny to listen to commentaries because of it. You can name pretty much any British TV show, I think, and find a Doctor Who connection within, say, two jumps.

Ah, I haven't been keeping up with that stuff.
I guess it's still a possibility though, you can never know with the man who actually brought Gallifrey back after all of his bullshitting. Although I'm not sure if I would even want her to return.
Just wondering, was it ever explained how
these Dalek stalks work? Do the victims actually get to keep their personality etc or is it all just an act?

They've not really explained, but based off the dialogue in Series 7 (Christmas speculation within as well):
They can retain their personalities - the brain isn't wiped, just held apart from the rest of their thought process. For instance, the hot accented chick (who, to continue my point above, played a housemaid who tried to seduce Tennant in another show) is still able to access the memory of her daughter, who presumably was killed by the Daleks, to build a plausible story to lure the Doctor in. She even says those memories can only be accessed to facilitate cover, but then it seems she has a sense of autonomy as she later says "I read my file," and smirks. It appears that it does still kill you, though, as the Doctor describes the Daleks as having "emptied her out".

What's actually interesting is that Tasha Lem (this character at Christmas) clearly has acute knowledge of the Doctor as an old friend, so if they take her over, they'll gain all her knowledge. They seem to know who he is and about regeneration at Christmas, so what's betting they relearn it all off her?


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EDIT: Mega-fan Lizo (BBC News) was at the screening tonight. It was a full screening with press etc and even some members of the public, so chances are we'll get some reviews, hints and maybe bonafide spoilers. Lizo says: "Beautiful final performance from Matt - v moving final lines. And a joy seeing Peter Capaldi then making such an instant impact."

It's really happening!
 

Haha. And another one here.

Impression from the BFI screening earlier. About Matt's last scene and Capaldi's entrance.

Peter Capaldi makes a dramatic entrance into Doctor Who this Christmas - but Matt Smith steals the show.

In the episode called The Time Of The Doctor screened at London's BFI, Matt's doctor ends up in a town called Christmas for hundreds of years.

He does his best to defend the town but also spends time with children making toys for them and showing a sensitive side.

Eventually things comes to a head and as battle rages around the Universe, Matt tells sidekick Clara: "Times change and so must I."

Moments later in a highly emotional scene in the Tardis, a tearful Matt regenerates into Capaldi and his first act is to appear startled without saying anything and staring at a shocked Clara.

The Mirror has been asked not to reveal his first lines so as not to spoil the enjoyment for viewers, but Capaldi appears a more serious doctor than Matt.

He is on screen wearing a blue shirt and muted charcoal jacket, although insiders say he will chose his own timelord outfit next year.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-previews/matt-smith-impresses-doctor-who-2941806
 
R1 DVD/BLURAY out March 4, 2014

DOCTOR WHO: THE TIME OF THE DOCTOR


The Final Appearance of Matt Smith as The Doctor
Street Date: March 4, 2014

Suggested Retail Price: DVD $14.98 ($18.74 in Canada) / Blu-ray $19.98 ($24.98 in Canada)

Length: Approx. 60 mins + bonus material / single disc

New York – December 18, 2013 – BBC Home Entertainment announces Matt Smith’s final appearance in Doctor Who: The Time of the Doctor coming to Blu-ray and DVD on March 4, 2014. With over 60 minutes of sensational bonus features including an hour long special celebrating Matt Smith’s tenure as the Eleventh Doctor, this is a must-have for any Doctor Who fan’s collection.

Bonus features include:
“The Time of the Doctor – Behind the Lens” - It’s Christmas! A time for peace and goodwill to all. But hang on, its Doctor Who, surely it can’t be that simple? We take a peek behind the lens on this cracker of a Christmas special. The tinsel is out at the Oswald’s and we meet a familiar enemy in a new form. The Doctor comes face to face with the enigmatic Tasha Lem and makes a new friend. With Matt Smith, Orla Brady, Jenna Coleman, Steven Moffat, Danny Hargreaves, Jack Hollington, Sheila Reid, James Buller and Elizabeth Rider.

“Farewell to Matt Smith” – Narrated by Alex Kingston (River Song), This compelling, hour-long special looks back at Matt Smith’s extraordinary tenure as the Eleventh Doctor, featuring highlights from the show and copious interview footage with Matt, his cast-mates, writers, producers, guest stars and celebrity Doctor Who fans.

“Tales from the TARDIS” – A look back at the full, 50-year history of this iconic series. Eleventh Doctor Matt Smith and past Doctors David Tennant, Sylvester McCoy, Colin Baker, Peter Davison and Tom Baker tell what it was like to be the Doctor, how they got the job and how it changed their lives. With companions Jenna Coleman, Karen Gillan, Arthur Darvill, and more, this truly insightful special offers a unique insight into the world’s longest running sci-fi series.

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