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There's a rumour going around re: Series 8 that
McGann will be back for a 2-parter, due to the positive reception of Night of the Doctor. He would be pre-time war 8th and have a companion with him.

I would think that they'd want to focus on Capaldi next season, so I'm not really sure I believe it. If series 8 is Moffat's last, maybe he want to bring McGann back before he goes.

There's also a lot of noise about The Master returning, next series also.
 
There's a rumour going around re: Series 8 that
McGann will be back for a 2-parter, due to the positive reception of Night of the Doctor. He would be pre-time war 8th and have a companion with him.

I would think that they'd want to focus on Capaldi next season, so I'm not really sure I believe it. If series 8 is Moffat's last, maybe he want to bring McGann back before he goes.

There's also a lot of noise about The Master returning, next series also.

Based on what I hear. Again nothing about this info should ever be given serious credit it's just "grapevine" talk so to speak.

Master Yes
McGann Not in S8
 
There's a rumour going around re: Series 8 that
McGann will be back for a 2-parter, due to the positive reception of Night of the Doctor. He would be pre-time war 8th and have a companion with him.
Exciting news if true. Would he be sharing the screen with Capaldi?

There's also a lot of noise about The Master returning, next series also.
That's been rumored forever. Would be nice.

Based on what I hear. Again nothing about this info should ever be given serious credit it's just "grapevine" talk so to speak.

Master Yes
McGann Not in S8

Any idea who has been cast as the Master?
 
McGann Not in S8

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I don't think they'll do McGann purely because doing anything multi-doc is a bad idea early in a Doctor's tenure as it risks undermining them in the role. Capaldi needs to have another series before they think of anything else. McGann would be a good shout for 2015 for the anniversary of New Who, though. Put him with Capaldi and Smith or Tennant, finish bridging the gap.

I, too, have heard indications about
The Master for series 8 from people who should know.
Don't think anybody has put pen to paper for the role yet though.

The big new spoiler which has surfaced in the past week is that a certain actor named
Alex Kingston
has signed on to appear in Series 8. To which I say
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
I should add "allegedly" to the post above, because nothing's confirmed. Coming from reliable people, though, whereas the bit at the top of the page about McGann is coming from one of the Outpost Skaro people I believe (unless IL is getting it from elsewhere) and those guys have a very patchy track record indeed.
 
I don't think they'll do McGann purely because doing anything multi-doc is a bad idea early in a Doctor's tenure as it risks undermining them in the role. Capaldi needs to have another series before they think of anything else. McGann would be a good shout for 2015 for the anniversary of New Who, though. Put him with Capaldi and Smith or Tennant, finish bridging the gap.

I, too, have heard indications about
The Master for series 8 from people who should know.
Don't think anybody has put pen to paper for the role yet though.

The big new spoiler which has surfaced in the past week is that a certain actor named
Alex Kingston
has signed on to appear in Series 8. To which I say
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

The actor and character in question are fine when written correctly.
 
When River is written well she is fine. Bouncing off an actor closer to her age and maybe throw a Jack Harkness appearance in there and River will work fine Moff.
 
The Master coming back makes sense. I think everyone would agree that Daleks/Cybermen/Master are the biggest villains in the world of Who, and we haven't seen him in a while. He's the only 'A-level' big villain that we haven't seen facing off against Matt Smith, and it wouldn't surprise me if Moffat was saving him for Capaldi. I think there's a great opportunity there to get him back to how he was in the classic series. The Master in the Tennant-years (or in the McGann-movie for that matter) felt like a completely different character to me, nothing like the iconic character as portrayed in the earlier years (especially as portrayed by Roger Delgado, no doubt the definitive Master). I understand why they portrayed him like they did in the RTD-years, but it just didn't work for me. Not that I'm saying that they should bring back the black outfit and the goatee (although that would be fun), but Tennant's Master was just too excessively manic for my tastes. The short scenes where Derek Jacobi realized he was the Master felt more true to the character than John Simm ever did, for me. A more classic Master would work well against an older Doctor.

Thinking about it, there aren't a lot of really iconic villains left to bring back in the new series. I imagine we'll see more of the Ice Warriors and the Zygons, but I have a hard time imagining which enemies that we haven't seen yet in modern Who might come back. Neil Gaimain has expressed interest in bringing back the Yeti, but the Great Intelligence's storyline seems to be fairly finished at this point, and their designs and backstory (they are, after all, just mindless robots) don't seem to be that translatable for a modern audience. Beyond that the vlllains can get very obscure, often appearing in just one serial. The Sea Devils have a fair chance I think, and perhaps the Rutans (maybe in an episode focusing on Strax's backstory or something). Or, if they're going to focus on Gallifrey's history more in the future and they want to bring back more Timelord enemies beyond the Master: the Rani, the Meddling Monk, the Valeyard or Omega all kinda make sense.

About the rumours about more McGann-episodes: I kinda doubt it. Moffat did state that they want to do more surprising mini-episodes with a slightly higher budget, like the McGann-short, but no matter how cool it would be see more of McGann (or Davison/Colin Baker/McCoy), I doubt that they'll keep going on with the multi-doctor stuff so soon after the anniversary. Give it ten years. I actually agree with Moffat (although he could be lying again) that Doctor who should be more about looking forward, not looking back, although his answer on the question if we're going to see more multi-doctor stuff in the future was that we should expect those kind of crossovers to end 'soon' after Day of the Doctor. Who knows if that actually means something though. Who...knows...(*cue Tom Baker laugh*)

Edit: Insane fanboyish request that's never going to happen (probably for the best): a webseries running alongside series 8 starring Tom Baker as the Great Curator, walking through his museum discussing various artifacts from the Doctor's adventures, featuring flashbacks starring various classic Doctors. It won't happen, but it would totally justify my massive undertaking of watching every Doctor Who episode ever over the last couple of years. I'm actually kinda starting on a second viewing marathon. I wasn't planning on it, and I know I shouldn't try to watch all of it again, but I'm at The Crusades right now and I've fallen in love with this series all over again. Oh man.
 
The closest we've had to palpable human foe with a face in the Smith era is Kovarian, and she was under-used.
hopefully won't remain that way...
Capaldi needs, nay, deserves someone to play off against.
 
Simm was closer to feeling like the Master than Ainley ever did for me, because at least he was doing something new and tailored to the Doctor he was facing off of rather than just being a poor man's Roger Delgado. Ideally, the Master should always be someone who can be cast as a dark reflection of the Doctor. That's why Delgado worked so well; he was pretty much perfect with Pertwee. I don't think Delgado would have worked nearly as well with any other Doctor. Simm's more manic performance worked very well opposite Tennant. Ideally whoever will play the Master against Capaldi will be an older guy who can tailor their performance based on his (whatever that winds up being).
 
Simm was closer to feeling like the Master than Ainley ever did for me, because at least he was doing something new and tailored to the Doctor he was facing off of rather than just being a poor man's Roger Delgado. Ideally, the Master should always be someone who can be cast as a dark reflection of the Doctor. That's why Delgado worked so well; he was pretty much perfect with Pertwee. I don't think Delgado would have worked nearly as well with any other Doctor. Simm's more manic performance worked very well opposite Tennant. Ideally whoever will play the Master against Capaldi will be an older guy who can tailor their performance based on his (whatever that winds up being).

I think a younger Master would sort of work too; an impudent, dangerous child the Doctor is trying to reign in. We'll see I guess, Moffatt's pretty decent at casting.
 
I maintain that Cumberbatch would be the perfect foil for Capaldi. Younger, unflappable, cold and unfeeling. No one is going to beat Capaldi in a shouting match, but Cumberbatch could just stare into the camera and get the point across.
 
Simm was closer to feeling like the Master than Ainley ever did for me, because at least he was doing something new and tailored to the Doctor he was facing off of rather than just being a poor man's Roger Delgado. Ideally, the Master should always be someone who can be cast as a dark reflection of the Doctor. That's why Delgado worked so well; he was pretty much perfect with Pertwee. I don't think Delgado would have worked nearly as well with any other Doctor. Simm's more manic performance worked very well opposite Tennant. Ideally whoever will play the Master against Capaldi will be an older guy who can tailor their performance based on his (whatever that winds up being).

Yeah, to clarify, I don't want a new Master to play it exactly like Delgado (I agree that Ainley tried to imitate him a bit too much without doing his own thing), and a Delgado-Master wouldn't exactly work against Tennant. We have to wait and see how Capaldi is going to play him, but I suspect that there's room there for a Master who acts slightly more like an adult.

In the end it's Moffat, so he'll probably give it his own twist. I think Moriarty in his Sherlock might give us an idea of what to expect from a new Master under his supervision.
 
I maintain that Cumberbatch would be the perfect foil for Capaldi. Younger, unflappable, cold and unfeeling. No one is going to beat Capaldi in a shouting match, but Cumberbatch could just stare into the camera and get the point across.

While I definitely agree that a cold, younger guy would work I think you need a bit of a visibly unhinged edge otherwise you have two dark, brooding leads trying to out brood each other.

I think the Master works well when he not only mirrors the Doctor but is an exaggerated version of him. So maybe someone's who massively temperamental but equally charming to a fault. Naturally this all depends on Capaldi's interpretation but I agree he'll need to be younger as a counter.

Or, ya know, a woman. That'd be neat.
 
I just can't get past the block in my mind that says that John de Lancie should play the Master. The character's been American once already.
 
The big new spoiler which has surfaced in the past week is that a certain actor named
Alex Kingston
has signed on to appear in Series 8. To which I say
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i hope not, just thet that chacter rest.


also cumberbatch as the mater would be alright with me
 
That rumour about
a 2 parter with McGann
have me very excited.

Just finished the first season of The Eighth Doctor Adventures and he's already creeping up the list of my favourite Doctors. I don't think it'll happen next series though, the one after seems more likely.
 
I don't see anything with the Eighth Doctor being part of the regular season. I'm sure they want to do them (and I'd like to see them), but they'll probably have to be standalone specials or something.
 
I don't see anything with the Eighth Doctor being part of the regular season. I'm sure they want to do them (and I'd like to see them), but they'll probably have to be standalone specials or something.

Easter Special rumors to be redeemed
 
To be clear, From what I've heard BBC did have meetings about McGann and the future of who. They make sense since he is almost The Doctor that wasn't in a sense and the fan reaction proved that people enjoy him after a luke warm reception in the movie.

That said even if the BBC signed off on something like a mini series it won't appear instantly These things take time, scripts have to be written and checked and checked and checked.

What I've heard is BBC are planning to expand the who brand and we could see a few McGann episodes that leap frog his life and lead to the events of Night of the Doctor. Not full 45 min episodes mind. Think something like 3 15-30 min episodes for example.

BBC:A seems to be the arm pushing for spinoff content not that any arm is directly opposed to it but it's something BBC:A are pushing for.

Capaldi is the main focus next year, After that everything is up in the air. A movie is still on the table at some point. Minisodes are going to be more frequent and explore more of the whoniverse. BBCA is pushing for spinoffs. McGann is in their focus.

I've heard nothing of the AK rumor but i've not got anything that would conflict it either.

Easter Special rumors to be redeemed

Easter actually might be bringing something entirely new actually.
 
Capaldi as The Doctor was a fanwank dream. Let us have our fanwank dreams.

Capaldi remains a pretty brave choice and one that was largely unexpected due to the age difference and how large a departure he'll be from Smith and Tennant and all that, though. I can't think of a more obvious, predictable choice than Cumberbatch, and in that sense I'd rather be surprised. Until the leak and the rush of bets on him, Capaldi was really low, odds-wise, at the bookies. He was really in a sense quite a long shot.

I'm torn on the AK rumour, purely because I think the potential there with Capaldi could be amazing but at the same time I've had enough of that plot strand.
 
They still need to clear up how River's data echo which should be in the library was in the Tardis at Trenzalore and could communicate with Clara and Vastra.

Where do I start a petition to "Bring Back Jenny" (doctors daughter, not lesbian ninja girl)

.... What if Jenny is Jenny?!
 
To be clear, From what I've heard BBC did have meetings about McGann and the future of who. They make sense since he is almost The Doctor that wasn't in a sense and the fan reaction proved that people enjoy him after a luke warm reception in the movie.

That said even if the BBC signed off on something like a mini series it won't appear instantly These things take time, scripts have to be written and checked and checked and checked.

What I've heard is BBC are planning to expand the who brand and we could see a few McGann episodes that leap frog his life and lead to the events of Night of the Doctor. Not full 45 min episodes mind. Think something like 3 15-30 min episodes for example.

BBC:A seems to be the arm pushing for spinoff content not that any arm is directly opposed to it but it's something BBC:A are pushing for.

Capaldi is the main focus next year, After that everything is up in the air. A movie is still on the table at some point. Minisodes are going to be more frequent and explore more of the whoniverse. BBCA is pushing for spinoffs. McGann is in their focus.

I've heard nothing of the AK rumor but i've not got anything that would conflict it either.



Easter actually might be bringing something entirely new actually.

Spinoff media? New companion?
 
Watched some more classic stuff over the weakend I hadn't seen before.

Firstly got around to watching the DVD release of The Tenth Planet with the Reanimated episode 4. Gotta say really good episode, I hadn't seen the early Cybermen on screen before only in pictures and I always thought they looked goofy as. Seeing them in motion though looked awesome. The voices came off as really weird at first but I really grew to like them, much better than how the Cybermen were in the 1980's (heck I'd go so far to say that the only good Cybermen are the 60's ones). The costumes did look bulky and over the top but when you realise its the Cybermen at a very early point it kind of works. Although I did see some sticky tap on the headgear holding everything together which was way too noticable.

Hartnell was awesome and knowing now what I do about his health and his commitment as an actor I have to applued him for the performance he put on, its a shame he had to miss one of the episodes due to getting really ill, its a shame they had to write him out of that episode but it also works in well with him regenerating at the end. When he is on screen, he's awesome, the more I see of Hartnell the more I come to like him and his ways.

Not a huge fan of Ben or Polly to be honest, Ben just grates me with the way he talks and Polly just seems like a screamer and doesn't seem to add anything unlike later female companions.

Animation on the final episode was great, its a shame they can't get one studio to do all the animation for the missing episodes, you end up with alot of inconsistency with stuff like this one looking amazing while the animation in The Ice Warriors looks really subpar and almost Flash animation like.

Story was good if not alittle cliché, the whole guy in charge willing to put millions of lives at risk to save his son thing was silly as well as the whole we have a bomb that will destroy Mondas but ruin earth if we do it. I did like that in the end it just came down to the Doctors smarts of just trying to buy time and wait the Cybermen out till their world destroyed itself and they stop functioning. The sets looked great and I really enjoyed it.

Good episode and I would suggest everyone check it out, its a shame the last episode was lost, I'd love to see the whole final serial of Hartnell complete, but for what we have its awesome and a must watch.

Next up I decided to continue with The Cybermen and watch Earthshock, not much to say about this, typical 80's Doctor Who. I'll admit I'm not the biggest Davidson fan going around, he's OK, but not anywhere near my favourite Doctor. Also spoilers ahead if you don't know anything on the episode.

So going into this episode I already knew all the big key points about. Looking at it I imagine had the whole death of a companion not been known to me or the fact it was a Cybermen serial like it was when the episode was shown it would have blown my mind. Like in the series finale to Season 2 of New Who with ZOMG Dalek out of no where. So yeah had those 2 things not been spoiled for me I think I would have enjoyed the serial a heck of alot more than I did.

I look at this and I still scratch my head about why they decided to get rid of Adric, I get that having 3 companions was too much, but why Adric I honestly feel like Nyssa would have been the one to go, she just sort of stands around doing nothing, plus you already have Tegan to be the female companion so just makes more sense to me to have one female and one male companion over 2 females. Minor gripe I know.

Its a really hard episode to describe because I feel not much really happened, The Doctor and Adric have an argument, they go to some tunnels, find army people in tunnels, the usual misunderstanding, robots attack and then off to space ship to confront the Cybermen, fights against Cybermen and then debates with Cybermen about why feelings are useless, foil plot and Adric dies crashing into Earth, plus his death is meaningless. Yes he did manage to make the ship go back and crash on earth at an earlier timepoint thus meaning no people die, but he could have been saved. He had a point to leave with the survivors of the ship but he choose to stay around just to prove how smart he was and it was all for naught. Had he died in a way that caused everyone to be saved then that would have been fine, but everyone was already saved, his death was pointless and just for shock value.

Cybermen where there, didn't really feel like a decent Cybermen story, could have been any random threat to earth. The best Cybermen stories are really the ones where they threaten to take over people and use their bodies for more Cybermen. This was just lets slam a rocket into Earth because we don't like people. The best Cybermen stories are really the early ones, I can't wait for the release of Moonbase next year.

So yeah the more I think about this episode, the less I like it, it was good, but not great, much like most of Number 5s run. I still have Caves of Androzzi to watch, to impress me. At this stage the only serial I like from Peter was Resurrection of the Daleks, which I've seen heaps of times anyway.

Lastly watched more to Colin Bakers Trail of a Timelord, only 3 more to go, I hate Mel already -_- but really like Colin, you can tell he is a good actor and his Doctor is an interesting take, just god awful stories. Will try and finish that up over the coming weekend.
 
Lastly watched more to Colin Bakers Trail of a Timelord, only 3 more to go, I hate Mel already -_- but really like Colin, you can tell he is a good actor and his Doctor is an interesting take, just god awful stories. Will try and finish that up over the coming weekend.


Is there anyone who didn't hate Mel?

CARROTS, CARROTS, CARROTS!


DIE, DIE, DIE!
 
Is there anyone who didn't hate Mel?

CARROTS, CARROTS, CARROTS!


DIE, DIE, DIE!
I've pretty much stayed away from all the McCoy serials with her in it barring Paradise Towers (Childhood memories) or Dragonfire so I don't really know much about her, but dear lord she just adds nothing.
 
it's amazing how you go from Mel to Ace.

Mel is Adric without anything redeeming (though she's aged really well), whereas Ace and McCoy are up there with best pairing in Who history.
 
I look at this and I still scratch my head about why they decided to get rid of Adric
Everyone hated him

He had a point to leave with the survivors of the ship but he choose to stay around just to prove how smart he was and it was all for naught. Had he died in a way that caused everyone to be saved then that would have been fine, but everyone was already saved, his death was pointless and just for shock value.
Everyone hated him
 
Is there anyone who didn't hate Mel?

CARROTS, CARROTS, CARROTS!


DIE, DIE, DIE!

I'm told that she's had a similar reevaluation to C. Baker after Big Finish performances and now comes across a lot better. Not that I've heard those.


This is from several years ago (pre-new-series), but it's appropriate for this time of year. If cheesy, and a nice nod to The Feast of Steven.
 
They still need to clear up how River's data echo which should be in the library was in the Tardis at Trenzalore and could communicate with Clara and Vastra.

Where do I start a petition to "Bring Back Jenny" (doctors daughter, not lesbian ninja girl)

.... What if Jenny is Jenny?!
I'll sign that petition.
 
My Doctor Who 50th bluray came today from Amazon. No shipping box, the Bluray was just tossed haphazardly in front of my door...

I now have this image of someone stealing my packaging, opening it and going "Oh fuck Doctor Who" and tossing it back at my door.
 
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