Every team has their hypocritical fans, or their jerks, or their racist fans, etc. It would be interesting to see if the ratio of good/bad fans changes at all over larger sample sizes. Philadelphia, for example, hardly has a monopoly on fans-who-are-jerks, but it may have a disproportionate amount of them. Or maybe not!
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Every team has their hypocritical fans, or their jerks, or their racist fans, etc. It would be interesting to see if the ratio of good/bad fans changes at all over larger sample sizes. Philadelphia, for example, hardly has a monopoly on fans-who-are-jerks, but it may have a disproportionate amount of them. Or maybe not!
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Jajaja so good
weekend_warrior
Banned
Because he was lucky to get a 10 year/ $240 million contract and asking for an opt put clause would have been stupid. Arod got an opt-out clause on a contract he signed when he was 25, and mostly because Texas was willing to give him anything he wanted. There's no reason to expect Cano would ever get a more lucrative deal when this one will pay $24MM/year until he's 41. Not asking for one is definitely not a sign that he would never ask to be traded or accept a trade, that's just stupid.
The Yankees definitely have more.
Dominican Power
Member
What if they sign Stephen Drew?
I just want to rectify what I said earlier and acknowledge that JD Drew is a terrible example of someone who burned out before getting paid. He must have been hitting 31 HRs when I stopped being a good baseball fan because I never would have guessed he'd post such good stats across pretty much a decade. Makes me wonder if the Waino trade was a good one after all. Although ATL got Drew for one year so yeah STL wins I would guess.
This ESPN article on the trade reads so great in retrospect, actually.
This ESPN article on the trade reads so great in retrospect, actually.
CheezyMac88
Member
Hey don't jinx it!
Mr. Enigma
Member
The Astros and Chad Qualls have agreed on a 2-year, $6 million deal.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Yeah, like they need me for that.
Dominican Power
Member
Springer is not starting the season with The Astros?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
http://seattletimes.com/html/mariners/2022420240_mariners08xml.html
Just in case you didn't think Jack Z was the worst GM in baseball. Some scathing stuff in here.
Just in case you didn't think Jack Z was the worst GM in baseball. Some scathing stuff in here.
Derp.. that's who I meant. lol
Grossman would be the fourth.
But yeah, Springer prolly gets his shot at the club this season.
This article makes #6org look a million times worse.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Holy shit. Amazing article. Zduriencik comes off as a total clown, with his former right-hand man admitting he knew jack shit about advanced stats and that he's the one who prepared his job interview shit for him
And now they are stuck paying Cano $240 million for 10 years. Hee haw.
I've always thought Jack Z was terrible. There is no surprise there from me.
However, Eric Wedge is also terrible and I'm kinda glad he's gone.
Thank god Jack Z has Tom McNamara though.
The Mariners (mostly Tom) have built a good farm system at least ... from a prospect standpoint.
Also how much is of the bashing is from people with butt hurts from being let go or fired? Blengino went from assistant to the GM to fucking writing on Fangraphs ....
If Blengino didn't like the way Jack Z operated ... why did he follow him from the Brewers to the Mariners? Just doesn't make sense to me.
However, Eric Wedge is also terrible and I'm kinda glad he's gone.
Thank god Jack Z has Tom McNamara though.
The Mariners (mostly Tom) have built a good farm system at least ... from a prospect standpoint.
Also how much is of the bashing is from people with butt hurts from being let go or fired? Blengino went from assistant to the GM to fucking writing on Fangraphs ....
If Blengino didn't like the way Jack Z operated ... why did he follow him from the Brewers to the Mariners? Just doesn't make sense to me.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I feel Wedge was a bad coach but a good character. If it's even half true about the meddling I don't think he was awful.
He also doesn't strike me as a man to come out and trash his former bosses unless something was really, really wrong.
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Well, we aren't out the winter meetings yet.. This is exactly the same situation Bavasi was in when he set us back 10 years
Mr. Enigma
Member
Never forget Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez. Or giving Carlos Silva 4 years and $48 million.
Or trading like 5 fucking people including Adam Jones for fucking Erik Bedard.
I also can't stand Geoff Baker ... writes for the Seattle Times but is almost ALWAYS anti-Mariner. Go back to fucking Toronto.
What a shitty time for that article to come out though ... why would you release that shit before the Winter Meetings. Clearly does not care about the Mariners as a fan.
This article is a good way for Wedge and Blengino to never get a baseball job again. Airing dirty laundry HAS to be frowned upon by everyone as I'm sure every organization has its own share.
Also the talk of scouts (Bob Engle and Guerrero) being let go? They were receiving fucking kick backs ... pretty shady shit and the reason they were booted.
Still though ... it is tough be an M's fan with shit like this ... but its been like this ever since Lincoln and Armstrong have been at the helm ... least Armstrong is gone now.
Jason A. Churchill ‏@ProspectInsider 2h
An asst GM that doesn't care for Jack a whole lot: "Blengino? Who cares what that guy says or thinks? What a joke."
Jason A. Churchill ‏@ProspectInsider 2h
Same AGM: "I don't think they have a clue over there. You know I see that. I tell u all the time. But this is s***t. Complete f*****g s**t"
The Frankman
Banned
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
The Artful Dodger
Member
Lol, you shoulda seen the number of Giants fans that started claiming they never liked Brian Wilson last year.
vas_a_morir
Banned
Add Bruce and Chapman while you're at it. NY will also receive Gold Star, too.
Link
The Autumn Wind
Just trying to think of the last big free agent deal that actually worked out for us.
Dmncnby2k9
Banned
Shiiiit. It's been rough.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Mike Piazza.
Link
The Autumn Wind
That was actually a trade, but your point is well noted.
To be completely honest, it's possibly Bobby Bonilla. Not kidding.
I was trying to go before that. Beltran is the obvious one. Most of the Mest deals are trades.
You don't have any other great examples. Spent a good five minutes looking around, nothing significant.
Injuries sucked for him, but he was one of our best players when he was on the field.
And he netted us Zack Wheeler.
Ninja Scooter
Member
24, of course.
you monster!!
Mr. Enigma
Member
Granderson contract breakdown:
2014 (age 33): $13 million
2015 (age 34): $16 million
2016 (age 35): $16 million
2017 (age 36): $15 million
2014 (age 33): $13 million
2015 (age 34): $16 million
2016 (age 35): $16 million
2017 (age 36): $15 million
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Well it's not retired... but don't know if that's happening...
With Harvey out, he'll likely start the season in the rotation, and he'll stay if he's successful.
$16 million at both 34 and 35? Hmm...
Better chance at 42.
The Frankman
Banned
I doubt any team offers him a major league team, it's a battle of minor league contracts pretty much. Nice to see they'll consider Johan.
They wanted Granderson to take less in the 1st year, it's the only reason they got 4 years.
I didn't want to curse. Link is my Mets bro, we're just two sides of the same coin.
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