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A CIA director, his biographer, a creeper FBI agent, and Eric Cantor walk into a bar

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commedieu said:
Who resigns over this voluntarily..

You wait it out.. see if she takes you back.. then pretend you'll do anything to keep her.. Like resign..

but you just don't resign.
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Sure if you have a job that you love. Nobody would pass up a chance to bail out in his position.
 
Gemüsepizza;44168268 said:
Yes. He did not hesitate to send the drones, even when dozens of civilian had to die because of them. A true hero and a real soldier.
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It's not the Carebear Intelligence Agency.
 
commedieu said:
Who resigns over this voluntarily..

You wait it out.. see if she takes you back.. then pretend you'll do anything to keep her.. Like resign..

but you just don't resign.
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In a lot of high-level positions, government and private, that's not really how 'resignations' work. He may have been pushed towards or even flat out asked to resign. It's like being fired but you get to keep some of your dignity cuz yr important.
 
Full letter.

HEADQUARTERS Central Intelligence Agency
9 November 2012
Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position as D/CIA. After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours.

This afternoon, the President graciously accepted my resignation.
As I depart Langley, I want you to know that it has been the greatest of privileges to have served with you, the officers of our Nation's Silent Service, a work force that is truly exceptional in every regard. Indeed, you did extraordinary work on a host of critical missions during my time as director, and I am deeply grateful to you for that.


Teddy Roosevelt once observed that life's greatest gift is the opportunity to work hard at work worth doing. I will always treasure my opportunity to have done that with you and I will always regret the circumstances that brought that work with you to an end.


Thank you for your extraordinary service to our country, and best wishes for continued success in the important endeavors that lie ahead for our country and our Agency.
With admiration and appreciation,
David H. Petraeus
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2real4tv said:
Sounds fishy no one resigns for that.
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You do if you have a heads up that the info is about to go public. He was probably asked to resign. It's very common in the government sector. Lots of people end up "resigning so they can spend more time with their family." Even funnier when you see like 6 of those at the same time.
 
Guevara said:
WTF.

In b4 the Obama/Benghazi conspiracy theories.
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From Rapture Ready:

"He may have come out today hoping to save himself from "death by unknown causes" tomorrow. That doesn't seem to stop the actors in ObamaNation, though."

"Does anyone else smell Benghazi? I'm wondering if this is cover story to keep him from testifying."
 
The Benghazi relation does not make sense. If Obama felt the embassy attack became politicised to the extent that it threatened his presidency, then you would have seen this resignation long before the election. The fact that its happening now, with no ramifications, doesn't compute.

What I do find curious though is that Petraeus will now not testify in front of Senate Intelligence Committee on the topic of Benghazi. My question is, why not?
 
Benghazi does really make not much sense. They could have said he resigns because of health issues or something else, if they wanted. An extramarital affair is not really honorable. I guess it's probably the truth.

Mully said:
It's not the Carebear Intelligence Agency.
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So you approve of killing innocent civilians?
 
2real4tv said:
Sounds fishy no one resigns for that.
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I'm not sure it would require a resignation (like I posted in PoliGAF), but having a secret affair (or any damaging secrets) is a huge problem for someone in the CIA since it exposes you to blackmail.

Benghazi doesnt make much sense at all. He can still be subpoenaed
 
ConfusingJazz said:
Espionage and infidelity don't have a great track record.
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Exactly. It puts into question his judgement. Is he susceptible to a honey trap? That kind of thing. If he is CEO of Apple, fine. If he is head of an organisation that is in charge of gathering security intelligence...why take the risk that the poor judgement used in his private life will spill over into his business?
 
He's a fucking spy and he got caught? He should have had dead drops and meets in underground car parks. Maybe she was a Deep Throat.
 
oneils said:
Exactly. It puts into question his judgement. Is he susceptible to a honey trap? That kind of thing. If he is CEO of Apple, fine. If he is head of an organisation that is in charge of gathering security intelligence...why take the risk that the poor judgement used in his private life will spill over into his business?
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Yesterday afternoon, I went to the White House and asked the President to be allowed, for personal reasons, to resign from my position as D/CIA. After being married for over 37 years, I showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in an extramarital affair. Such behavior is unacceptable, both as a husband and as the leader of an organization such as ours.
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oneils said:
Exactly. It puts into question his judgement. Is he susceptible to a honey trap? That kind of thing. If he is CEO of Apple, fine. If he is head of an organisation that is in charge of gathering security intelligence...why take the risk that the poor judgement used in his private life will spill over into his business?
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Eh, that was a big argument that Republicans used against Clinton. I still don't find it terribly convincing.
 
He may have gotten canned because of Benghazi. The extramarital affair stuff was Obama making sure his political career is ruined.

There were rumblings about a Presidential run one day for him. Petraeus was always a really good politician, but he ran up against a better one.
 
I find it hard to believe that these higher ups stay committed to their wives........the whole paranoia about cheating sounds bs to me.
 
What's wrong with me?
I think you're crazy
I want a second opinion.
You're also lazy.
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Oh, Director Petraeus
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Can I play the piano anymore?
Of course you can.
Well I couldn't before.
 
ChiTownBuffalo said:
Also not good to have a spymaster with that much open leverage.
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Fuck that. I know that people have used things like this for years for blackmail or control purposes. But at a certain point, if I am at a Boss Hog levels such as head of the CIA, you can't hold anything over me. I will fuck straight up KGB broads and you can't tell me shit. Oh no, my wife might find out. Fuck that. I wouldn't resign over something like this. I would tell my agents to go find me some double agents so we can do cleavage shots at some Langley dive bar and find out who breaks first.

Truth of the matter is probably closer to this: Gen Petreus just may not mesh with the next phase of American foreign policy, and this was an opportune time for him to exit without there being a reason for a political assembly to explain WHY he's leaving. It doesn't get anymore clean cut than marriage woes as a good excuse. He's leaving to spend time with his family.
 
mernst23 said:
What's wrong with me?
I think you're crazy
I want a second opinion.
You're also lazy.
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Oh, Director Petraeus
Director Petraeus, Director Petraeus!
Can I play the piano anymore?
Of course you can.
Well I couldn't before.
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I hate every ape I see . . . from Chimpan-A to Chimpan-Z.
 
TacticalFox88 said:
It is, but for the most part, unless you're in a security position with sensitive information, they really won't prosecute you.
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You mean, like in a position as head of the CIA?

I think rank-and-file members of the military are less likely to have charges brought against them, but a general is a different level. Also, depends on who he was sleeping with. If it was another officer or another officer's wife, it opens up a whole new can of worms.
 
If he doesn't testify on Benghazi, we'll know he didn't resign because of this affair. There is no reason why resigning is a good excuse for not testifying.
 
akira28 said:
Truth of the matter is probably closer to this: Gen Petreus just may not mesh with the next phase of American foreign policy, and this was an opportune time for him to exit without there being a reason for a political assembly to explain WHY he's leaving. It doesn't get anymore clean cut than marriage woes as a good excuse. He's leaving to spend time with his family.
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If he simply wanted to get out, he could have just resigned. There's no good reason why he couldn't. It's actually the perfect time to do it when Obama's second term is about to start. Literally any excuse would do. "I want to do other things." "OK, cool." And if he wanted to use the "spend time with family" excuse, he could have literally said "I'm going to spend more time with my family" instead of admitting to an affair, creating a big scandal, and probably ruining his national political future in the Republican party.

Kifimbo said:
If he doesn't testify on Benghazi, we'll know he didn't resign because of this affair. There is no reason why resigning is a good excuse for not testifying.
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He'll be required by law to testify if they want him there. This makes no sense in relation to Libya because it accomplishes nothing. He's not taking responsibility, he's not avoiding testifying.
 
Wasn't expecting to hear something like this involving Patraeus.
 
Vagabundo said:
He's a fucking spy and he got caught? He should have had dead drops and meets in underground car parks. Maybe she was a Deep Throat.
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En Ex said:
Wasn't expecting to hear something like this involving Patraeus.
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Spy!
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Clevinger said:
smh

He'll be required by law to testify if they want him there. This makes no sense in relation to Libya because it accomplishes nothing.
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Except he won't testify. They should want him there.

Acting CIA Director Michael Morrell will testify next week before the Senate Intelligence Committee about the fatal attack in Benghazi instead of David Petraeus, according to the office of that committee's chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein.
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Source: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/0...ubmits-resignation-over-extra-marital-affair/
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
You mean, like in a position as head of the CIA?

I think rank-and-file members of the military are less likely to have charges brought against them, but a general is a different level. Also, depends on who he was sleeping with. If it was another officer or another officer's wife, it opens up a whole new can of worms.
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The situation is a lot more complicated than that, but heres the reality of the military

If you're the rank of a Colonel (O-6) and above and you either rape or commit adultery, if the media doesn't find out or doesn't care if they *do* the chances of that senior officer getting prosecuted is practically zero.

Now if they are in positions where they know extremely sensitive information (weapon schematics, new technology, vehicles and tech that hasn't been shown to the public, CIA operatives locations, number of special forces members, where they're deployed, etc), then they will be asked to either resigned or forced out, not taking any chances of that individual being a liability.
 
Clevinger said:
If he simply wanted to get out, he could have just resigned. There's no good reason why he couldn't. It's actually the perfect time to do it when Obama's second term is about to start. Literally any excuse would do. "I want to do other things." "OK, cool." And if he wanted to use the "spend time with family" excuse, he could have literally said "I'm going to spend more time with my family" instead of admitting to an affair, creating a big scandal, and probably ruining his national political future in the Republican party.
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um..which Republican party are you referring to? It's not like he was caught in a bed with a live boy or a dead girl. He's a war hero and a former spook chief. His ass will be just fine with the Mil-Industry Complex folks who are his peers.

And while he could have resigned and said he wanted to do something else, or given any other kind of reason, this one plays out in a totally self contained way, so there is no question, and the explanation already played out. This isn't about disagreements with administration policy or national security responsibilities, this is all his fault, and the reason he's leaving is all about that. That's not necessarily true though, it's the implied assumption.

Now what was the last major news story with a creamy CIA filling?

edit: hahah other than this one.
 
Did Petraeus Already Lose His Clearance?

Hard for me to imagine that the President could waive this sort of thing. But maybe not. From a TPM Reader who does federal employment law …

I’m a federal employment lawyer who has done a good amount of security clearance work. Petreaus simply could not continue as CIA Director. Even if they eventually found that he was not at risk for facing what is called “duress” in security clearance law, his security clearance would be immediately suspended pending investigation. Indeed, I have no doubt that his clearance has already been suspended and an investigation will happen to find out if any loss of information occurred. There is no way that he could continue.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/11/did_petraeus_already_lose_his_clearance.php?ref=fpblg
 
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