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Steam's Big Picture Mode beta starts Monday Sep 10th [out now]
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I knew i saw that layout somewhere before...
Apocryphon
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civilstrife
Member
So what time is this expected to go live?
Necromanti
Member
Someone said 10 AM PST (in 45 minutes from now), but I'm not sure where they got that estimate from.
Cannon Goose
Member
That's the time they usually update daily sales and whatnot.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Presumably they were going off the daily deal update time. There's no reason to believe that any client update would be at the exact same time though.
Pretty sure it is open beta.
Cheers man.
That's exactly the way I understand it as well, but developers will never bother implementing split-screen into games if they can instead force you to buy two copies. Valve means well, but I think it'll end up being one more thing for publishers to exploit.
Nintendo already has the best on-screen keyboard implementations.
I've been on the fence about getting and Alienware X51 or building a MiniATX system for my TV but I'm going to try a 50Ft Highspeed directional HDMI cable first and see how that works with a wireless 360 controller.
Site is working!
http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/
Says it's coming later today, MAC beta will come later. Also says 50 million friends again.
http://store.steampowered.com/bigpicture/
Says it's coming later today, MAC beta will come later. Also says 50 million friends again.
mcdomination
Member
So, how will this work with games like Skyrim?
Skyrim has native controller support obviously, but when you launch the game from steam, the Skyrim launcher appears. In this launcher, the controller is not supported, so you have to use the m/kb to first hit PLAY. Then, when the game engine is launched, the controller support kicks in.
So, has this been addressed, or will we still need kb/m intervention with native-controller-supported-games that utilize a game launcher?
Skyrim has native controller support obviously, but when you launch the game from steam, the Skyrim launcher appears. In this launcher, the controller is not supported, so you have to use the m/kb to first hit PLAY. Then, when the game engine is launched, the controller support kicks in.
So, has this been addressed, or will we still need kb/m intervention with native-controller-supported-games that utilize a game launcher?
fluffydelusions
Member
Probably still need kb/m for stuff like that is my guess.
lol.. be happy they even bother. Same thing with Dota 2.
balladofwindfishes
Member
They might roll out some BPM updates for games over the week. I know even some of Valve's games don't run well with controllers (like TF2), so those will have to be brought up to BPM standards.
Curious to see if Dota 2 ever gets controller support.
I don't know that I would want anyone on my Dota or TF2 team who's using a controller to play those...
Well I guess you can get away it with if you're playing medic or non-Wrangler engy and don't plan on defending yourself.
fluffydelusions
Member
Totally wishful thinking but I hope BPM brings the rumored "app store" Would be awesome to have Netflix, crackle, youtube apps etc and being able to control them from the couch.
RazorbackDB
Member
there is always a solution ! http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/1068 , but yeah it would be nice if they fix this
not so great with a toddler
I would love Valve to do the dumb thing of allowing you to directly control your character, oh the jukes that could be done.
balladofwindfishes
Member
It just seems weird to me Valve would release BPM when their two most popular games don't support controller use (well, TF2 does, but it's terrible and requires a keyboard to get working).
I'm sure Valve could figure out a way to make Dota 2 work with a controller.
The analog circle/multiple buttons type of on-screen keyboard is clearly the objectively best method for entering text using a traditional controller. It requires the fewest actions to enter any character, it's stateless (!) and it makes use of both hands.
I can understand people not liking it personally or not wanting to relearn anything (I still use qwerty even though it's not the best layout), but I can't see a good argument as to why it isn't better than the cumbersome methods usually employed.
I can understand people not liking it personally or not wanting to relearn anything (I still use qwerty even though it's not the best layout), but I can't see a good argument as to why it isn't better than the cumbersome methods usually employed.
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
First confirmation that Steam has hit 50,000,000 active subscribers.
The Wizard
Member
Looks like you can just use the Xbox Guide button to bring up the steam overlay? Awesome if so.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Another great thing about it is that analog sticks are all gated (whether circular or polygonal) so it's generally fairly easy to rotate a specified amount. If you think "n" is around 45 degrees down, and then you find out it's actually straight down, it's no problem to roll over to adjust.
That's what I found with BG&E; if I accidentally overrotated, it was really easy to correct.
EternalGamer
Banned
I would really like the to let me use voice chat through a 360 headset while in game sound comes through speakers/TV like on 360. I'm already using a 360 pad, why not let me use the headset as intended?
balladofwindfishes
Member
hmm, it's be neat if it supported this also. I don't think it does, but that certainly would be something I hope they look into
EternalGamer
Banned
Also they should put that voice to text thing that is in the Steam app in it. It is a great alternative to "voice messages" and works pretty well in in the app already.
Oh, so it's not going to work with a mouse at all? That's a bummer.
Madrugador
Member
Holy shit @ BPM. It looks amazing.
Need to get back home as soon as possible.
Need to get back home as soon as possible.
Hellsing321
Member
It'll work. I think if you're using a mouse though it will be easier to use the regular steam interface.
The vast majority already don't, which is, assuming we're correct on what Valve is exploring, likely the catalyst behind the idea. Creating a method of de facto split-screen can't exactly be used nefariously to effectively remove traditional split-screen if said feature is being ignored.
But at the end of the day, for all we know, all Valve has planned is a system similar to that of the X360 and PS3 in that games that support traditional split-screen can be played with two separate accounts (and, to be honest, a de facto split-screen system is probably setting expectations too high).
I spent the whole afternoon trying to find that freaking thread. Thanks.
Minsc
Gold Member
That's great then. I'm excited to give this a try. Hopefully it can take over the default client for me.
Not that you're biased
How about a variation on the phone text entry model? Use the analog stick to point to 12346789 (centred is 5) and just press A 1,2 or three times to enter a letter. You have the benefit of a recognisable interface (phone keypad), a familiar input method (text message entry), and only one action button so you arent trying to decode what colour does what
fluffydelusions
Member
I'd totally recommend the wired PC 360 controller. It's only like $30-$40 depending where you go. The wireless one is terrible from my experience. I constantly lost signals and it has some issues with certain games.
Haunted
Member
What skin are you rocking right now? I think Steam's default skin is fucking garbage.
I have both and never had any issues with either.