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Legend of Korra |OT| - Saturday Mornings Just Got Better
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Try putting it inside quote tags
Speedymanic
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Woah. I went through the last few pages and it seems like people are independently arriving at this conclusion. Prior to my predictions, both Kyou and Ferreria mention the possibility of Amon absorbing, rather than sealing, powers. To commemorate, I created the following:
Edit: Wow that's pretty large. Is there an easy way to resize within the IMG tag?
I chuckled.
Amon is going to be very hard to top if they do decide to end this current arc in the finale, I personally hope they don't and take a risk by having Korra lose her bending.
No doubt the avatar state will stop that from happening though, I suspect that's the reason we haven't seen her enter the state yet...
This!
Aang being a soft-spoken adult made sense to me. I was surprised people didn't like his new voice.
I just rewatched the cabin scene. Good stuff.
Prax
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SPIRIT.
Obviously!
I found it weird that EVERYONE in the world pretty much can use the "advanced" skills for each element quite easily, but thinking about it, it makes sense. Just like the Olympics in the real world where people are constantly breaking old records, and people in general refine and build upon skills that were passed down to them.
Anyway, I am enjoying the show, but of course the pacing is too fast and things just kind of happen and end so quickly.
I kind of still like to think that Amon is possibly another Avatar from when Aang "monetarily died", and those visions were all from Amon's point of view~
When he was overpowering the bloodbending, I mused that he must have been a robot. >_>
LAUGHTREY
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That's not how it works. The Avatar spirit is one thing, and when Aang died the spirit was also dead even.
Amon has to be someone we know, but it's not gonna be Aang. The only reason to give someone a mask is the revelation when you take it off (Vader, Man in the Iron Mask, etc.) My money was on Tenzin during the first few episodes, but then they showed Tenzin and Amon in the same place during the Tournament. Amons has gauntlets that cover where air nomad tattoos would be, that's why I thought it was him.
It would be a pretty lame cop out if he takes it off and he really is some random guy just burnt to shit.
Amon is clearly Pema since she is a pro at sinking ships.
ThatObviousUser
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Amon is Meelo.
It would be a lamer cop out if it's somebody we know. Why can't he be his own person? There nothing that points to him being somebody we know. A mask doesn't necessary mean he is hiding something. In my opinion the mask is only there for intimidation. A person is more menacing when you can't see their face, and read their emotions.
This.
Iroh was able to teach lightning bending to Zuko, so it makes sense that they would teach it to others and eventually it would just spread from there and more and more people would learn it. It's like the 4 minute mile... it was thought impossible until one man did that, and now 4 minutes and under has been achieved by many professional runners.
Also, in the comics bridging TLA and LOK, Toph starts a metalbending academy in order to teach the skills to others.
It's perfectly reasonable that there are a ton of lightning/metal/blood benders now.
shira
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shira
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Zuko can only redirect lightning.
I hope the athletics potential aspect is a jab at health in general. Ya we have better runners but most Americans are obese and can't even run a mile.
I smell a new meme!
Sorry, I'm a bit late on this, just watched ep 9 today...
It seems weird that they completely dropped the glowy bits of spiritbending from the TLA finale.
Usually they're so consistent with the universe, although maybe they could handwave it away by saying it was caused by Aang/Ozai being so powerful at the time.
But seriously, the bending removal we saw in TLA and discussed in the artbook was noticeably different from what we're seeing in Korra. It seemed to be a difficult and dangerous process that required going into an avatar state-like... state. And now in Korra, Amon and Aang are doing the same thing in a matter of seconds with no real effort.
I really thought prior to the flashback last week that this was evidence for Amon's bending-stealing not being permanent, but rather a temporary blockage of powers like chi-blocking. But now that we've seen Aang do the same thing, so much for that theory.
It seems weird that they completely dropped the glowy bits of spiritbending from the TLA finale.
Usually they're so consistent with the universe, although maybe they could handwave it away by saying it was caused by Aang/Ozai being so powerful at the time.
But seriously, the bending removal we saw in TLA and discussed in the artbook was noticeably different from what we're seeing in Korra. It seemed to be a difficult and dangerous process that required going into an avatar state-like... state. And now in Korra, Amon and Aang are doing the same thing in a matter of seconds with no real effort.
I really thought prior to the flashback last week that this was evidence for Amon's bending-stealing not being permanent, but rather a temporary blockage of powers like chi-blocking. But now that we've seen Aang do the same thing, so much for that theory.
What the bloody hell does that have to do with Korra?
no you dont
Big Chungus
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wtf?
shira
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We have these superbenders with awesome refined technique like tarrlok and toph
IE usain bolt
But the majority of benders are pretty weak or have no advanced techniques
IE fat people
I think the glowing stuff was just to highlight the contrast between Aang and Ozai in the finale. Evidently it's not integral to the energybending technique itself.
The avatar state and energybending are separate powers. No avatar other than Aang has ever energybent. It's not an Avatar power. What it takes is knowledge and uncorruptible principles. It still IS very dangerous, because it is a battle of wills each and every time. What Aang and Amon share is their conviction in what they are doing is right, truly right. That purity of spirit is what makes Amon a really scary and intriguing villain to me. He is able to energybend because he has no doubt and no hesitation.
In terms of technique strength, mastery, and advancement. I'm imagining part of bending being almost like learning physics or mathematics (or anything).
Before anyone formalized calculus or special relativity, to develop and use the idea required extraordinary genius, talent, and insight... you need a Newton or Einstein to get us there. However, once the technique is formalized, you have high school kids busting out differential equations and Lorentz transformations even without understanding how they got there- or even, necessarily, what they're doing... you don't need to be as brilliant as Newton or Einstein to execute it or even fully comprehend it after the breakthrough.
Moreover, now with the breakthrough as a baseline you can iterate more easily irrespective of the boundaries of your predecessors. Newton didn't foresee relativity, Einstein struggled with his perception of the incompleteness of Quantum Mechanics... so something that was tough to them is arguably more simple for us.
So despite a single variation of extremely deadly and difficult to use form of lightning bending once existing available only to the exceptional, we've seen it's been commoditized in their contemporary times and likely iterated with intentionally weaker / safer forms.
Before anyone formalized calculus or special relativity, to develop and use the idea required extraordinary genius, talent, and insight... you need a Newton or Einstein to get us there. However, once the technique is formalized, you have high school kids busting out differential equations and Lorentz transformations even without understanding how they got there- or even, necessarily, what they're doing... you don't need to be as brilliant as Newton or Einstein to execute it or even fully comprehend it after the breakthrough.
Moreover, now with the breakthrough as a baseline you can iterate more easily irrespective of the boundaries of your predecessors. Newton didn't foresee relativity, Einstein struggled with his perception of the incompleteness of Quantum Mechanics... so something that was tough to them is arguably more simple for us.
So despite a single variation of extremely deadly and difficult to use form of lightning bending once existing available only to the exceptional, we've seen it's been commoditized in their contemporary times and likely iterated with intentionally weaker / safer forms.
Society as a whole benefits by the progression of individuals.
The post above nails it. After a scientists finds a solution to a problem, people can piggy back on it, and eventually over time it becomes common knowledge. Once the amazing benders of TLA figured out new techniques they were able to teach others and 70 years later it became common knowledge how to use those techniques.
I also find it funny that you ignore the fact Toph opens a metalbending academy and decide to talk about how Americans are fat and can't run a mile :lol
Can people stop saying this? Do people who say this know what memes actually are or how they work? UGHHHHHHH
I hope Amon turns out to be a completely original character, unrelated to anyone featured in either show. I don't even care if he really is disfigured or not, or if he really was taught energybending by spirits. I just really don't want him to be something cheesy and cliché like that.
Amon secretly being Koh the Face Stealer is the only exception.
No, that's not how memes work. Don't force it.
That will be terrible unless the integrate some very solid reasoning/evidence in the last three episodes.
seriously, fuck koh=amon. aang=amon 4 lyfe
Infinite Justice
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After watching the series again (right before Korra hit) and thinking about it i'm convinced it was meant to show what happens during the procedure and the extreme danger it can pose if you fail.
The only thing left between Aang and Amon is the method they do the technique and if it as any bearing on the effect. And i now think the memory was not only about the Yakone/Tarrlok link but possibly the use of energybending and how Aang decided to use it vs Amon's decision to use it.
We'll see how this goes as we get to the finale.
But he has no face. Hohoho.
WrenchNinja
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So like, Kiyoshi was pretty beautiful whenever she appeared to Aang. But she lived to 230, I doubt she was as pretty when she died.
And Roku appeared as his age when he died.
Kuruk and Yangchen didnt seem that old when they appeared to Aang, and I dont think they were killed at a young age, probably died of natural causes.
So like, when Korra meets Aang, would he appear as an old man? His forty year old self? Or somewhat younger...like an idealized self where he could be voiced by his original voice actor?
And Roku appeared as his age when he died.
Kuruk and Yangchen didnt seem that old when they appeared to Aang, and I dont think they were killed at a young age, probably died of natural causes.
So like, when Korra meets Aang, would he appear as an old man? His forty year old self? Or somewhat younger...like an idealized self where he could be voiced by his original voice actor?
shanshan310
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Same here, but seeing kid Aang again would be so great ;.;
I prefer 40 year old Aang to be honest, and he better be with his spirit animal, Appa! Roku did it so Appa should be with Aang as well.
ThatObviousUser
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I think it should be like a 22 year old Aang, then they could still use the original voice actor too. Closer to Korra's age but still older than he was in TLA.
I really want Amon to be truthful in his motives. It would just make a much more deeper villain if he really does feel that he's just doing what has to be done to solve the problem (benders abusing their powers, which is established as a real problem). He does seem very calculating about every single one of his actions but that doesn't necessarily mean that he has ulterior motives.
Yeah, now that I think about it, you're right.
maybe he's wilson from home improvement.
ThatObviousUser
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Then he'd still have half a face.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
That's the point, it's the only reason characters wear masks. There's something to that 'Firebender killing loved ones' story that's popped up a few times now, he's may be related to Zuko in some way or the story is made up. He may be some fanatical Ozai progeny out for revenge, it would be poetic justice to take the avatars bending after the avatar took his.
I think it's a little heavy handed the way they showed Aang taking away Yakones bending. He clearly did it the same way he did Ozai, when Amon is doing it some other way. This is a kids show, there's no way the bad guy is mutilating people permanently.
On the other hand, look at his hands.
His gauntlets seem to cover a convenient spot where one might have air nomad tatts.
so all of this was an effort by tenzin to make korra learn airbending?
and then in the last episode the whole city throws a surprise party. korra rolls her eyes and says, 'oh you guys'. credits roll, set to double bass by gorillaz.
and then in the last episode the whole city throws a surprise party. korra rolls her eyes and says, 'oh you guys'. credits roll, set to double bass by gorillaz.
FlutterPuffs
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That's the point, it's the only reason characters wear masks. There's something to that 'Firebender killing loved ones' story that's popped up a few times now, he's may be related to Zuko in some way or the story is made up. He may be some fanatical Ozai progeny out for revenge, it would be poetic justice to take the avatars bending after the avatar took his.
I think it's a little heavy handed the way they showed Aang taking away Yakones bending. He clearly did it the same way he did Ozai, when Amon is doing it some other way. This is a kids show, there's no way the bad guy is mutilating people permanently.
On the other hand, look at his hands.
His gauntlets seem to cover a convenient spot where one might have air nomad tatts.
I think he's just an energy bender. It was told during TLA's last season that humans learnt to bend energy first; then the elements.
Amon just does so, like how Tarlokk bloodbends.
I think Amon's character design is constructed to make him very hard to identify/glean clues from. Short of seeing characters in the same time and/or place as him, it's hard to rule any male character out as being Amon at this point. The fact that his attire covers pretty much every part of him that could be a giveaway is important to his intrigue.
I have no firm idea about who or what Amon could be, but the following ideas have swirled about in my mind about his identity/nature/motivations:
1) He's the latest generation of a lost airbender bloodline, perhaps out for revenge against all the other benders for the extinction of his people. Sure, it was technically the Fire Nation who did it, but if he genuinely believes bending is responsible for every war in history then it could have just as easily been a Water Tribe or Earth Kingdom tyrant who wiped out the only peaceful nation and its people. In this instance, I think it's fair to say he knows energybending.
2) He's a normal guy with a grudge against benders, telling a few lies. He probably does need to cover his face, but I doubt the spirits got in touch with him. He just knows some advanced chi blocking or some physical way to seal chakras in a manner that seems permanent (or is permanent!!), and made all the spirit stuff up to give himself some gravitas. Ascribing one's leadership or abilities to God or some other divine force is a powerful rhetorical technique often used by revolutionaries to fuel their followers' conviction.
3) The spirits do believe the Avatar has failed and want Amon to sort out the bending problem, so they gave him energybending. This could explain Korra's difficulty in having any real spiritual experience beyond visions (something big could be going down in the spirit world). In this instance, I think the spirits would be proven wrong. I think if Amon tries to energybend Korra, it's going to turn out nasty for him. I think Korra's spirit/energy will probably be more unbendable than Amon's.
4) A more nefarious spirit has manipulated Amon into doing these things to further its own agenda.
5) Amon is a spirit in disguise which has a less-than-noble agenda.
6) Amon learned energybending of his own volition, but his intentions are less-than-noble. Short of communicating information and taking away people's bending, we don't actually know what sort of things energybenders can do. Bryke have been kind of mum on the subject, suggesting they haven't fleshed the idea out, or didn't want to spoil any potential future storylines, so maybe as some people suggested it could steal bending. In this case, Amon could be Sylar.
I have no firm idea about who or what Amon could be, but the following ideas have swirled about in my mind about his identity/nature/motivations:
1) He's the latest generation of a lost airbender bloodline, perhaps out for revenge against all the other benders for the extinction of his people. Sure, it was technically the Fire Nation who did it, but if he genuinely believes bending is responsible for every war in history then it could have just as easily been a Water Tribe or Earth Kingdom tyrant who wiped out the only peaceful nation and its people. In this instance, I think it's fair to say he knows energybending.
2) He's a normal guy with a grudge against benders, telling a few lies. He probably does need to cover his face, but I doubt the spirits got in touch with him. He just knows some advanced chi blocking or some physical way to seal chakras in a manner that seems permanent (or is permanent!!), and made all the spirit stuff up to give himself some gravitas. Ascribing one's leadership or abilities to God or some other divine force is a powerful rhetorical technique often used by revolutionaries to fuel their followers' conviction.
3) The spirits do believe the Avatar has failed and want Amon to sort out the bending problem, so they gave him energybending. This could explain Korra's difficulty in having any real spiritual experience beyond visions (something big could be going down in the spirit world). In this instance, I think the spirits would be proven wrong. I think if Amon tries to energybend Korra, it's going to turn out nasty for him. I think Korra's spirit/energy will probably be more unbendable than Amon's.
4) A more nefarious spirit has manipulated Amon into doing these things to further its own agenda.
5) Amon is a spirit in disguise which has a less-than-noble agenda.
6) Amon learned energybending of his own volition, but his intentions are less-than-noble. Short of communicating information and taking away people's bending, we don't actually know what sort of things energybenders can do. Bryke have been kind of mum on the subject, suggesting they haven't fleshed the idea out, or didn't want to spoil any potential future storylines, so maybe as some people suggested it could steal bending. In this case, Amon could be Sylar.
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