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I kinda don't want Amon's story to end so soon since he's such a freaking godlike villain. Not sure how they'll able to top how much of a boss he is with another villain.

how is he a godlike villain? right now hes just an angry guy in a mask with a vague motive
it depends entirely on how they explain who he is that will make him a good villain
 
I thought this was cute.


I don't think less pro-bending is a good thing. Sure it upsets a few people who want "real" bending, but I'm not too bothered about that as I care more about the universe, where it is going, and the stories told in it than fights. Plus I think the ones in Legend of Korra are neat anyway.

But the romance stuff was definitely pushed too much. The whole 'The Spirit of Competition' episode should've been scrapped unless it served a purpose, which would've been to put the shipping to rest. It's only gotten worse since, with the Mako<-->Korra<--Bolin love triangle changing to Korra<-->Mako<-->Asami love triangle. And Mako's "feelings" for Korra feel so forced and unconvincing, whilst his stringing along of Asami makes him look like a douche. And whilst there's nothing wrong with there being douche characters, the writers are also trying to make Mako into a sympathetic heartthrob too, and that's ridiculous.

But as it stands, the shipping stuff is just zapping quality seconds from other stuff, like fleshing out Mako and Bolin. I mean, at this rate, Asami has more character development than that pair. I think episode 5 would've been better served not being a forced romance episode to satisfy the fangirl shippers, but an episode about Mako and Bolin's past. As I suggested earlier, perhaps an episode about a bending triad member trying to blackmail Mako or Bolin into a matchfixing scheme by having them throw a match (and Korra's reaction to this, maybe?) would've been a much better use of the 23 minutes. It suits the period, it gives us some insight into the bending triads, and it also opens the door for some proper Mako and Bolin back story. Instead we just got smooching and (admittedly hilarious) tears.

It is not about what is real bending or not, but that many don't find probending particularly as good as bending can be to watch,as we know that there is bending that can be quite better.In comparison to the kind of bending that we have seen from TLA it is not particularly good and generally probending is not particularly impressive and that means a drop in quality.

I don't think less pro-bending is a good thing. Sure it upsets a few people who want "real" bending, but I'm not too bothered about that as I care more about the universe, where it is going, and the stories told in it than fights. Plus I think the ones in Legend of Korra are neat anyway.

Probending story is not particularly special though, the other aspects of the show are generally better. Now through probending we had some character development and overall there are positive aspects in it but just because the story they came up with is probending does not mean that the purposes of that could not be satisfied with a different story.
Perhaps with us seeing more of republic city and different locations in that alternative what if, of quite less probending.


But the romance stuff was definitely pushed too much. The whole 'The Spirit of Competition' episode should've been scrapped unless it served a purpose, which would've been to put the shipping to rest. It's only gotten worse since, with the Mako<-->Korra<--Bolin love triangle changing to Korra<-->Mako<-->Asami love triangle. And Mako's "feelings" for Korra feel so forced and unconvincing, whilst his stringing along of Asami makes him look like a douche. And whilst there's nothing wrong with there being douche characters, the writers are also trying to make Mako into a sympathetic heartthrob too, and that's ridiculous.

But as it stands, the shipping stuff is just zapping quality seconds from other stuff, like fleshing out Mako and Bolin. I mean, at this rate, Asami has more character development than that pair. I think episode 5 would've been better served not being a forced romance episode to satisfy the fangirl shippers, but an episode about Mako and Bolin's past. As I suggested earlier, perhaps an episode about a bending triad member trying to blackmail Mako or Bolin into a matchfixing scheme by having them throw a match (and Korra's reaction to this, maybe?) would've been a much better use of the 23 minutes. It suits the period, it gives us some insight into the bending triads, and it also opens the door for some proper Mako and Bolin back story. Instead we just got smooching and (admittedly hilarious) tears.

I agree 100%
 
There's a big difference from Combustion man who gets beat up by a boomerang and Yakone who simultaneously bloodbends the most powerful Avatar in the history of the world, the most powerful earthbender in the history of the world, an entire police squad, the entire Republic City council and about 30 bystanders. Thats pretty freaking powerful. Not to mention as far as anyone had known, you could bloodbend one person at a time.. during a full moon only. And that power causes Aang to take away his bending which as far as we know is the only time that he has ever had to do that after he did it to Fire Lord Ozai.

An explanation for such power wouldn't have been a bad thing. The episode was amazing but just saying; what's wrong with explaining it?
Well I didn't say it was bad thing, I would love an explanation. Though I'm also satisfied with Sokka's explanation too. Guess I'm just okay with it since Yakone and Tarrlok aren't really an issue at the moment.

...Actually scratch that. Now that I think about it, I'm not okay at all with the vision. Aang has spent the entire season trying to tell Korra about Yakone and Tarrlok...when Amon is the real threat. Why? What's the purpose? Tarrlok is neutralized now. There has to be more to the vision.
 
well i just watched it, only caught up on the show last week, have never seen avatar before.

but i think it's safe to say amon is aang.
 
...Actually scratch that. Now that I think about it, I'm not okay at all with the vision. Aang has spent the entire season trying to tell Korra about Yakone and Tarrlok...when Amon is the real threat. Why? What's the purpose? Tarrlok is neutralized now. There has to be more to the vision.
That's a good point. At first it seemed like okay, Tarrlok is the antagonist, not Amon, but then Amon comes, takes Tarrlok's bending and tries to capture Korra and then it's back to okay Amon is the bad guy.

I'm interested in what the writers have planned about Amon.
 
Well I didn't say it was bad thing, I would love an explanation. Though I'm also satisfied with Sokka's explanation too. Guess I'm just okay with it since Yakone and Tarrlok aren't really an issue at the moment.

...Actually scratch that. Now that I think about it, I'm not okay at all with the vision. Aang has spent the entire season trying to tell Korra about Yakone and Tarrlok...when Amon is the real threat. Why? What's the purpose? Tarrlok is neutralized now. There has to be more to the vision.

I think the fact that Aang energybended Yakone and that was the second bender who he considered dangerous enough for the solution to be only removing their powers permanently and what Amon is doing is removing benders powers permanently is connected.

A crackpot theory that I don't believe but just have it as an idea is that Aang thought that there was a need to pass on his energybending to someone and Amon is that someone.
 
how is he a godlike villain? right now hes just an angry guy in a mask with a vague motive
it depends entirely on how they explain who he is that will make him a good villain
He's godlike because he is just that powerful.

So far he has done whatever he's wanted to do and no one has ever been able to stop him. He's very methodical in his methods and compared to him he makes the world's most powerful benders look like chumps. Not to mention the fact he has an ability that only Avatar Aang possessed.
 
She can't bend

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He's godlike because he is just that powerful.

So far he has done whatever he's wanted to do and no one has ever been able to stop him. He's very methodical in his methods and compared to him he makes the world's most powerful benders look like chumps. Not to mention the fact he has an ability that only Avatar Aang possessed.
Which begs the question why is he waiting for things to fall in place.

Is Amon's Comet coming? Why doesn't he just execute his plan. 6/23 hurry up!
 
Which begs the question why is he waiting for things to fall in place.

Is Amon's Comet coming? Why doesn't he just execute his plan. 6/23 hurry up!

Perhaps he waits for Korra to enter Avatar state so that he can remove her bending while in the Avatar state. Perhaps then there would be no Avatars in the future to be a danger to his equalist future.
 
And then they make out?
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It's like you read my mind.

...Actually scratch that. Now that I think about it, I'm not okay at all with the vision. Aang has spent the entire season trying to tell Korra about Yakone and Tarrlok...when Amon is the real threat. Why? What's the purpose? Tarrlok is neutralized now. There has to be more to the vision.
Agreed. I was hoping Yakone would be some bender supremacist who's actions against non-benders really kicked off the anti-bending sentiment, whilst the way Aang dealt with Yakone -- the worst of the benders -- gave Amon the idea for taking away people's bending. That still doesn't explain where, from whom or how Amon got the power, but it could've been an influence on his plan.

Alas, it just seems to have been a side-plot at this point.

Still, three more episodes to go. Maybe Korra starts having more visions, and now that Tarrlok has been dealt with by Amon, Aang will begin speaking to her about other things. I was hoping (and still am) that we'd get a Korra and Aang face to face, as Aang did with Roku, but maybe that's asking for a bit much in 12 episode miniseries.
 
Perhaps he waits for Korra to enter Avatar state so that he can remove her bending while in the Avatar state. Perhaps then there would be no Avatars in the future to be a danger to his equalist future.

Seems awful dangerous.

Why not remove Korra's bending now, rid the world of benders, and then find the next avatar and capture him/her as a child before they can be made into a threat.

Unless he knows Korra will insta avatar state once bending is threatened.
 
Perhaps he waits for Korra to enter Avatar state so that he can remove her bending while in the Avatar state. Perhaps then there would be no Avatars in the future to be a danger to his equalist future.
Well he said he was saving her for last. So he either has a mass effect energy bend or we have a time jump or a really long line of benders
 
Seems awful dangerous.

Why not remove Korra's bending now, rid the world of benders, and then find the next avatar and capture him/her as a child before they can be made into a threat.

Unless he knows Korra will insta avatar state once bending is threatened.

Well villains do take awfully dangerous paths. Finding the next avatar can have risks. Amon is starting his revolution in Republic City while the next avatar might be found elsewhere and protected or hidden. Also the next avatar will also be need to be taken out in Avatar State to remove Avatars forever. Eventually Amon will die and the Avatar cycle will continue if not broken. While he knows about Korra. Although facing Avatar state is also fucking risky but he would need to face it if by removing bending of Avatars you end the Avatar cycle and if that is his plan.

A victory over the Avatar in Avatar state, meaning no Avatars ever again will also be a huge propaganda victory for Amon. There will be no more hope in future Avatars to change things not only during his life but also after his death.

Plus lets look at the previous series history.


Using the fire-enhancing power of a comet, Sozin eradicated the Air Nomads to try to eliminate the next Avatar, but failed. He spent the last years of his life hunting the new Avatar in vain.[2]
and Aang eventually stopped the Firenation's imperialism after Sozin's death.
 
Well he said he was saving her for last. So he either has a mass effect energy bend or we have a time jump.

Circumstances have changed from that point that may have caused him to alter his plans. He obviously didn't want to upset outside powers who would crack down on and subsequently crush his revolution (i.e. he didn't want the Fire Lord's or Earth King's attention), which he'd have gotten by taking Korra's bending. Things have changed since the city has gone to hell and back, what with a bloodbending councilman and mass oppression of non-bending minorities, which is only exasperating the anti-bender revolution. I think that, if anything, is going to put the eyes of the world on Republic City more than ever.

If the finale preview is anything to go by, the Fire Navy has arrived in Republic City, so he's already drawn as much attention from benders as he possibly could. At this point, taking Korra down is probably a good objective for him.
 
Circumstances have changed from that point that may have caused him to alter his plans. He obviously didn't want to upset outside powers who would crack down on and subsequently crush his revolution (i.e. he didn't want the Fire Lord's or Earth King's attention), which he'd have gotten by taking Korra's bending. Things have changed since the city has gone to hell and back, what with a bloodbending councilman and mass oppression of non-bending minorities, which is only exasperating the anti-bender revolution. I think that, if anything, is going to put the eyes of the world on Republic City more than ever.

If the finale preview is anything to go by, the Fire Navy has arrived in Republic City, so he's already drawn as much attention from benders as he possibly could. At this point, taking Korra down is probably a good objective for him.
I'll have to see wha the original and modified plans are 6/23

But it will be interesting to see how many platinum robots they have to fight that force
 
One thing I noticed is that when Aang took both Yakone and Ozai's bending, he did the same technique. One hand on the forehead, the other on the chest. They're both chakras that he energybends through.

The only consistent thing Amon has done is the forehead. Of the few shots we've seen of him taking bending, from trailers and episodes, we've seen him just touching the forehead, sometimes the back of the neck and the forehead, sometimes the forehead and the lower neck/shoulder. It seems his other arm is free to restrain the bender in whatever way he feels is necessary to gain access to the forehead with his other hand.

So we're either in super powerful energybending territory here, or Amon is using a different technique. But even the lionturtle who gave Aang the power in the first place had to use the same technique as Aang (i.e. energybend through two chakras), so I'm wondering if Amon is actually just blocking people's chi and severely locking chakras, as has been suggested before.

It'd be pretty ironic if he accidentally unlocked the Avatar state when he tries to de-bend Korra.
 
One thing I noticed is that when Aang took both Yakone and Ozai's bending, he did the same technique. One hand on the forehead, the other on the chest. They're both chakras that he energybends through.

The only consistent thing Amon has done is the forehead. Of the few shots we've seen of him taking bending, from trailers and episodes, we've seen him just touching the forehead, sometimes the back of the neck and the forehead, sometimes the forehead and the shoulder. It seems his other arm is free to restrain the bender in whatever way he feels is necessary.

So we're either in super powerful energybending territory here, or Amon is using a different technique. But even the lionturtle who gave Aang the power in the first place had to use the same technique as Aang, so I'm wondering if Amon is actually just blocking people's chi and severely locking chakras, as has been suggested before.

It'd be pretty ironic if he accidentally unlocked the Avatar state when he tries to de-bend Korra.

I believe that Amon is connected to Yakone in some way, since when he knocked out Korra it triggered her first vision.

Maybe he is a bloodbender hence his resistance to Tarrlok and he uses it to fuck up with the body of the bender sealing the chackras somehow.
 
SO. Is my friend crazy? Like...actually?

He says Korra is kind of boring because it's moving slow, "like a snail stuck in molasses".

I...really don't know what to say. Korra moves too fast if anything.

I think it's the fact that the whole show is taking place in one city while in TLA they were almost always in a different city or a completely different part of a city each episode.

So while there has been a fast movement in the plot there hasn't hasn't been much change in the overall picture.

Korra still has yet to air bend, we have no idea who/what Amon is, we don't really know anything about the world or the city.
 
I actually love how fast paced this show is!

I tried to get into The Last Airbender after seeing various random episodes. Gave up halfway through the first season... it's not that I hated it or anything, it just didn't catch my attention completely. People have told me the good stuff was still to come, and I never got around to continuing. But I decided to give Legend of Korra a shot and I've really liked every episode so far... great story, great characters, a real sense of tension and danger, and each episode has important stuff happen. I really like that about this show, and I'm excited to see how this season ends,
 
One thing I noticed is that when Aang took both Yakone and Ozai's bending, he did the same technique. One hand on the forehead, the other on the chest. They're both chakras that he energybends through.

The only consistent thing Amon has done is the forehead. Of the few shots we've seen of him taking bending, from trailers and episodes, we've seen him just touching the forehead, sometimes the back of the neck and the forehead, sometimes the forehead and the shoulder. It seems his other arm is free to restrain the bender in whatever way he feels is necessary to gain access to the forehead with his other hand.

So we're either in super powerful energybending territory here, or Amon is using a different technique. But even the lionturtle who gave Aang the power in the first place had to use the same technique as Aang (i.e. energybend through two chakras), so I'm wondering if Amon is actually just blocking people's chi and severely locking chakras, as has been suggested before.

It'd be pretty ironic if he accidentally unlocked the Avatar state when he tries to de-bend Korra.

Perhaps he tries it, it is not exactly energy bending the same as Aang but it is not simply chi blocking either and Amon does have some kind of connection with the spirit world and Korra has to travel to the spirit world to escape from it, and due to that she manages to resist it or recover from its effects.
 
I believe that Amon is connected to Yakone in some way, since when he knocked out Korra it triggered her first vision.

Maybe he is a bloodbender hence his resistance to Tarrlok and he uses it to fuck up with the body of the bender sealing the chackras somehow.

Possibly. It could be some sort of bloodbender adaptation/derivative of healing where you use the power to block chi lines or close chakras. It certainly wouldn't be beyond a malicious waterbender to have such power. After all, the healers can feel energy in chi lines and know where blockages are, so it's not like that ability couldn't be used more nefariously, given the right kind of sick mind taking the time to experiment with it.

Perhaps he tries it, it is not exactly energy bending the same as Aang but it is not simply chi blocking either and Amon does have some kind of connection with the spirit world and Korra has to travel to the spirit world to escape from it, and due to that she manages to resist it or recover from its effects.
Maybe. Could make for a jam-packed two part finale, though.

Though I think given the Yakone being a super bloodbender revelation, the most simple explanation is generally where Bryke seem to be going with this, so he's more than likely just an energybender who got his power as a derivative from Aang somehow (either directly, or given by someone else who got it from Aang, or whatever), or he's just blocking chi in a more advanced/permanent way.
 
Maybe. Could make for a jam-packed two part finale, though.

Though I think given the Yakone being a super bloodbender revelation, the most simple explanation is generally where Bryke seem to be going with this, so he's more than likely just an energybender who got his power as a derivative from Aang somehow (either directly, or given by someone else who got it from Aang, or whatever), or he's just blocking chi in a more advanced/permanent way.

I see all of these scenarios as likely. But to be honest I kind of have a hunch we will see the spirit world in the finale. Perhaps that will be proven wrong.
 
One thing I noticed is that when Aang took both Yakone and Ozai's bending, he did the same technique. One hand on the forehead, the other on the chest. They're both chakras that he energybends through.

The only consistent thing Amon has done is the forehead. Of the few shots we've seen of him taking bending, from trailers and episodes, we've seen him just touching the forehead, sometimes the back of the neck and the forehead, sometimes the forehead and the lower neck/shoulder. It seems his other arm is free to restrain the bender in whatever way he feels is necessary to gain access to the forehead with his other hand.

So we're either in super powerful energybending territory here, or Amon is using a different technique. But even the lionturtle who gave Aang the power in the first place had to use the same technique as Aang (i.e. energybend through two chakras), so I'm wondering if Amon is actually just blocking people's chi and severely locking chakras, as has been suggested before.

It'd be pretty ironic if he accidentally unlocked the Avatar state when he tries to de-bend Korra.
So is the tahno energy bend one hand/error drawing or two hands/intentional cutaway?
 
So is the tahno energy bend one hand/error drawing or two hands/intentional cutaway?

I think it's an error. Remember, the imagery of Amon bringing his hand towards someone's face from the first person goes back to a previous episode where he is taunting Korra in the Aang memorial island, where the same trick was used. The implication is that he's bringing his hand down onto Korra's face to take her bending, as she had a nightmare about, and there's a level of fear associated with it, which is why it has a big visual impact when exactly the same technique used when Tahno lost his.

Basically, the implication is that he's bringing his hand to Tahno's forehead to take his bending away. And since Tahno is already restrained, he doesn't need to hold him down with his other hand, thus the reason for going one-handed.

So he's either a one-handed energybender, or he's blocking the chakra (with the trauma of having one's bending taken away so much that it permanently, or seemingly permanently, blocks it).

If he is indeed just chi/chakra blocking, then maybe doing it on Korra will have the reverse effect, in essence unlocking her chakra and enabling the Avatar state. It'd be pretty neat if they did that, because Amon's lies and ambitions for power (for whatever reasons, because the spirit stuff would be BS) would be his own undoing.

If it is spirit stuff, then they basically have 1hr and 9mins of actual screen time to fit an explanation in. Not saying they couldn't do it, but to introduce a whole spirit world arc and provide the necessary explanations at this point would require a good ten minutes (half an episode), in my view.
 
I think it's an error. Remember, the imagery of Amon bringing his hand towards someone's face from the first person goes back to a previous episode where he is taunting Korra in the Aang memorial island, where the same trick was used. The implication is that he's bringing his hand down onto Korra's face to take her bending, as she had a nightmare about, and there's a level of fear associated with it, which is why it has a big visual impact when exactly the same technique used when Tahno lost his.

Basically, the implication is that he's bringing his hand to Tahno's forehead to take his bending away. And since Tahno is already restrained, he doesn't need to hold him down with his other hand, thus the reason for going one-handed.

So he's either a one-handed energybender, or he's blocking the chakra (with the trauma of having one's bending taken away so much that it permanently, or seemingly permanently, blocks it).

If he is indeed just chi/chakra blocking, then maybe doing it on Korra will have the reverse effect, in essence unlocking her chakra and enabling the Avatar state. It'd be pretty neat if they did that, because Amon's lies and ambitions for power (for whatever reasons, because the spirit stuff would be BS) would be his own undoing.
But if Amon was merely blocking a chakra, then why couldn't Tahno find anyone capable of clearing it? I don't buy the idea that there are no Gurus in this era, or than Amon has a monoploly on knowledge of the Chakras in general.

SSBM would totally kick his ass. Bending power doesn't decrease with age

Super Smash Bros. Melee?
 
But Amon was merely blocking a chakra, then why couldn't Tahno find anyone capable of clearing it? I don't buy the idea that there are no Gurus in this era.

He'd have to know how it's done first. If he didn't suspect it was a blocked chakra, and the healers didn't know why his chi was screwed up, he wouldn't really know to see one, would he?

Of course all this relies on what healers in Republic City actually know. Maybe they have strong knowledge of chakras, maybe they don't. It seems understanding of chakras isn't exclusive to gurus, mind. Combustion Man obviously knew about them as he has a third eye tattoo on one of them and fires highly concentrated beams of energy from it.

But for all Tahno knows, Amon is probably just using the same power Aang had and that his bending is gone for good. But if he finds out that's not the case then he'll be able to get it back. Though that explanation would probably become public knowledge post-Book One.

I think considering how nebulous Amon's "spirit" stuff is, and whether he even needs to wear the mask to hide his "disfigured" face, we don't actually know how truthful he's been thusfar. I think his goals of equality are genuine, but he could be lying about the spirits for gravitas, and to lend himself some legitimacy against the Avatar, who is a proven bridge between the spirit world and the physical one.
 
I bet Avatar state just auto-protects from bending removal

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There was something that irked me about that scene. When avatar transitions into the avatar state, he just sort of... pops into it. The transitioning animation is... odd, and feels cheap some how.
 
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