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[trikster40]

That whole article BS. Sources familiar, a AAA executive in fear for their job because they can't print discs, brick-and-mortar Playstation stores in India....

Sources familiar with the company's plans speaking to me on condition of anonymity fearing retribution have stated that PlayStation's decision was a unilateral one. Publishers weren't kept in the loop and neither were its business partners.

"Despite our seemingly close working relationship with PlayStation we weren't informed that this was happening," says one executive at a major AAA publisher. "It's only hitting us now that we may be out of jobs sooner rather than later."

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Those incompetents still don't want us comparing their piece-of-junk PS6 to the PC... And they're right; we can't compare such limited garbage—the PS6—to a PC, which offers various freedoms and preserves games through emulators.

Obviously, I lean more towards the PC.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Sony is apparently still hiding on social media.

It's useful, because the masks have come off regarding what PlayStation and its CEOs really are: they don't care about you as a customer, and they certainly won't step up to face a serious problem.

 

[Konnor]

Hello, heeelloooo, Sony Japan are you there?


Can you please move the Playstation HQ back to Japan, please? These California retards are ruining your most successful business. HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR US?

 

[Tobimacoss]

This is possibly planned by Sony and Rockstar this scummy killing of disc, full control on digital content, and sony's hunger for AI money by converting its blue ray factory into lenses use by AI farm. Sony lost allot of goodwill from its fan who bought and even fought for ps1 to ps5.

It 100% was planned by Sony and Rockstar together. They used the timing between GTA6 pre orders and release to announce all the bad news, and price hikes.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Now is the time, Asha Sharma. If you want to elevate Xbox, include a disc drive and physical media support. That would score major points in its favor.

 

[neocycle]

I'm surprised that any publishers and developers haven't spoken out

They are probably glad they won't have to deal with this crap anymore.
No warehousing, cases, printing, discs, retailer cut, shipping, used games market means more profit for devs and publishers.
Also: more price control, bigger games, better sales data, simultaneous international releases.

 

[neocycle]

Now is the time, Asha Sharma. If you want to elevate Xbox, include a disc drive and physical media support. That would score major points in its favor.

Sure, make the next xbox more expensive to appeal to 5% of gamers.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Sony is apparently still hiding on social media.

Nope Bro. They tweeted about their new fighting stick today.

 

[Same ol G]

Nope Bro. They tweeted about their new fighting stick today.

And did you see the comments under that post.....
Everything they do will be downvoted to oblivion if they don't adress this crap.

 

[Matsuchezz]

You have to be a special kind of retarded to cheer for people having less options.

If it was a better option than digital I would cheer for it to keep it for new game releases.. If it's to keep running old games that's good. Games don't even run from discs anymore. Just let it go and quit your whining.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Sure, make the next xbox more expensive to appeal to 5% of gamers.

As I've always said... Ideally, it should launch in 2030... Supporting the physical format scores points. Consoles are still being released with Blu-ray drives... so it's not that expensive.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

As I've always said... Ideally, it should launch in 2030... Supporting the physical format scores points. Consoles are still being released with Blu-ray drives... so it's not that expensive.

Would it be cheaper in 2030?

 

[mckmas8808]

Hi all,

First time in a while making a thread, but this may deserve one. It isn't a known website, not for things of this order of magnitude, but the person who wrote the article is a former IGN reporter, I believe so it may be worth discussing.

PlayStation Axed Discs and Didn’t Tell Publishers or Business Partners

Sony blindsided publishers and partners by killing PlayStation physical discs in secret.

highchaosrun.com

I'm surprised that any publishers and developers haven't spoken out, but I've seen subtle things like ensuring a physical copy will exist(i.e. Onimusha).

Seems like some real scumbag nonsense going on if this has credibility. Sony seems to have found their arrogance arc again, unfortunately.

I feel like this obviously is a sign that Nishino isn't the originator of this move. This feels more like a top-down move from Daddy Sony, telling Playstation what's going to happen and then them just "dealing" with it.

 

[NovaSe7en]

I wouldn't be surprised if these two shitcunt companies colluded together.

It seems that way. The timing was too coincidental.

 

[SportsFan581]

The move has nothing to do with them, nor does it impact them in anyway.

This is just someone looking for clicks.

Not sure how a change to the sales structure of games doesn't affect the makers of said games, but ok.

With that said, hasn't it always been the publishers pushing for the all-digital future as a way of ending used games?

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

The stinking, arrogant rats have come out. Give the scum a greeting .

 

[simpatico]

Most big publishers are fist pumping this news. Physical games cost them thousands of sales on every big release too.

In what world are the publishers not happy about this OP?

 

[Angel of BOOM!]

I honestly don't believe the top publishers were not involved in this process. They have as much to gain as Sony from this (esp. if they can pin the decision on Sony so they don't look complicit).

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

It feels more like Sony saw the almost zero backlash from GTAVI announcement and huge pre orders and said "fuck it lets do it", there were zero leaks about this, so I can see this being a recent rapid decision.

I think it's much scummier than that. They announced it the day after their earnings quarter ended so that the numbers won't reflect any of the backlash until close to the time GTA VI launches in November.

 

[KaiserBecks]

They've given publishers and business partners 18 months notice, is that not enough?

Not when your business relies on or even basically consists of selling physical media.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Retailers should pull the console tbh. Fuck 'em.

 

[SportsFan581]

@ Angel of BOOM! I honestly think the publishers will lose money due to this move, at least in the short term. But, I do agree that they don't think they will and are supporting the move.

I think they underestimate the number of day-one players who buy physical copies to save money and play more games. The napkin math is quite different between physical and digital.

Let's say you are an active buyer and buy 6 day ones a year at $70.

Cost to the physical buyer who sells their games when finished with them: $120 ($70 x 6 - $50 x 6)

Cost to the digital buyer: $420

And you know a lot of buyers are doing this because of how quickly the used shops have sustained inventory of the latest releases.

 

[Kerotan]

Gamers killed discs by buying digital

 

[clappedcheeks]

Nothing surprises me with any of these companies slowly killing the gaming industry, but how about we await a more reputable source before bringing out the torches.

 

[simpatico]

@ Angel of BOOM! I honestly think the publishers will lose money due to this move, at least in the short term. But, I do agree that they don't think they will and are supporting the move.

I think they underestimate the number of day-one players who buy physical copies to save money and play more games. The napkin math is quite different between physical and digital.

I think the any gamer who's going to trade in the game is a sale they don't care to lose.

 

[Puscifer]

This is possibly planned by Sony and Rockstar this scummy killing of disc, full control on digital content, and sony's hunger for AI money by converting its blue ray factory into lenses use by AI farm. Sony lost allot of goodwill from its fan who bought and even fought for ps1 to ps5.

We shouldn't forget that Santa Monica said they understood the point of digital distribution and disc being activation codes. Their studios making 300 million dollar movies have had them leak several times over.

 

[SportsFan581]

I think the any gamer who's going to trade in the game is a sale they don't care to lose.

We'll see if they feel that way when the numbers start coming in. That would be an odd "feelings" based approach to sales business; they should only care that you buy it, not have a sentimentality towards you cherishing it for always.

 

[simpatico]

We'll see if that feels that way when the numbers start coming in. That would be an odd "feelings" based approach to sales business; they should only care that you buy it, not have a sentimentality towards you cherishing it for always.

It costs them a sale, so it's a net zero. The guy who buys your copy is having his appetite for the game sated without having to give the people who made the game one red cent.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

They've given publishers and business partners 18 months notice, is that not enough?

 

[SportsFan581]

It costs them a sale, so it's a net zero. The guy who buys your copy is having his appetite for the game sated without having to give the people who made the game one red cent.

Not having this option could cost them both sales, at least early in the game's life.

 

[simpatico]

Not having this option could cost them both sales, at least early in the game's life.

That's just zero vs zero though. There's no money for Sony on either side of that of that transaction unless they use activation codes.

Sure, YOU are buying games. But the people in your wake mopping up what you trade in are lost sales. They cancel out the profits the developers got from your purchase because the trade in costs them a sale.

 

[SportsFan581]

That's just zero vs zero though. There's no money for Sony on either side of that of that transaction unless they use activation codes.

? That doesn't make sense. Somebody bought the first copy for $70, that's $70 and a sale. The subsequent sales don't benefit Sony directly, that's true, although with all the MTX and DLC potential in games today, that is also debatable.

 

[simpatico]

? That doesn't make sense. Somebody bought the first copy for $70, that's $70 and a sale. The subsequent sales don't benefit Sony directly, that's true, although with all the MTX and DLC potential in games today, that is also debatable.

Everyone wants Sony to make single player cinematic story game though. That's the desired model I hear from every PS fan on this board. A lot of you guys want it both ways imo. There's just not enough margin left for that in the industry.

Basically, demanding that Sony enables you to play any game they release without having to give them one cent beyond the hardware purchase. It'll be up to the customer if the people who make the game see any proceeds from your purchase. If you're looking to save $6 that day, they're shit out of luck. That's a big ask don't you think?

 

[ReBurn]

 

[SportsFan581]

Everyone wants Sony to make single player cinematic story game though. That's the desired model I hear from every PS fan on this board. A lot of you guys want it both ways imo. There's just not enough margin left for that in the industry.

Basically, demanding that Sony enables you to play any game they release without having to give them one cent beyond the hardware purchase. It'll be up to the customer if the people who make the game see any proceeds from your purchase. If you're looking to save $6 that day, they're shit out of luck. That's a big ask don't you think?

Isn't that true of all things? Ford doesn't exactly get a cut when someone buys used; that's just life. The best they can hope for is that the used buyer stays in the Ford maintenance loop.

But, I can guarantee you there would be fewer Fords on the street if Ford could somehow block all used sales.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

California rest in peace, simultaneous release.

 

[TropicanaTwista]

I understand a lot of gaf is pissed at Sony over to whole no physical stuff anymore, but some of this just seems like fake outrage.


1) These publishers have around an 18 month window. How much time more would they have needed in advance?

2) Why would they even need to know in advance in the first place, and I would think publishers would be in favor of this, no? Seems to cut out some revenue from middle men and won't further allow borrowing of games / resales.

 

[simpatico]

Isn't that true of all things? Ford doesn't exactly get a cut when someone buys used; that's just life. The best they can hope for is that the used buyer stays in the Ford maintenance loop.

But, I can guarantee you there would be fewer Fords on the street if Ford could somehow block all used sales.

Entertainment trinkets and personal vehicles have the same consumers expectations around them?

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

With a name like HQ California, day was gonna come when I was gonna mourn ya.

 

[SportsFan581]

Entertainment trinkets and personal vehicles have the same consumers expectations around them?

They should, yes. If I "buy" it, I should own it and be able to resell it. When the DVD business was at its peak, folks selling DVDs at yard sales was not a problem, LOL.

This new trend of consumers who advocate against themselves is beyond me. "When I buy it, I shouldn't actually own it, the company won't make enough money that way!"

But, consumers have been selling themselves up the river this way for years, moving from physical to digital music was the same (at first). Now, everyone rents music for the most part anyway.

 

[Plague Doctor]

California rest in peace, simultaneous release.

Fun fact: Every 12th word of a Red Hot Chilli Peppers song is California

 

[P:axMagellanic]

They should, yes. If I "buy" it, I should own it and be able to resell it. When the DVD business was at its peak, folks selling DVDs at yard sales was not a problem, LOL.

This new trend of consumers who advocate against themselves is beyond me. "When I buy it, I shouldn't actually own it, the company won't make enough money that way!"

But, consumers have been selling themselves up the river this way for years, moving from physical to digital music was the same (at first). Now, everyone rents music for the most part anyway.

Simp is in his name, bro.

Modern games are infested with dlc, a used game absolutely is revenue potential.

 

[Signalis]

If it was a better option than digital I would cheer for it to keep it for new game releases.. If it's to keep running old games that's good. Games don't even run from discs anymore. Just let it go and quit your whining.

It seems that way. The timing was too coincidental.

Most definitely, too much of a coincidence.

 

[K' Dash]

what kind of 90's Yamauchi boss move was this? lol

 

[JerryinSoCal]

? That doesn't make sense. Somebody bought the first copy for $70, that's $70 and a sale. The subsequent sales don't benefit Sony directly, that's true, although with all the MTX and DLC potential in games today, that is also debatable.

Publishers have wanted to get rid of used game sales forever, they don't care that people often trade them towards new games they want the money for every single sale of one of their products. Most people don't buy MTX, those that do tend to be people who pay full price for things and have the disposable income. If someone is waiting to buy a used copy at a discounted price they aren't as likely to be willing to spend more money beyond that.

 

[Clear]

I think we need a new etymology for these disc obsessed types; "diskies" sounds about right!

 

[tr1p1ex]

Gonna miss that experience of putting in the disc on release day, waiting for it to install and then downloading the day 1 patch and being able to play within an hour.

 

[proandrad]

They did them, a couple of days ago in a tweet.

 

[graywolf323]

I feel like this obviously is a sign that Nishino isn't the originator of this move. This feels more like a top-down move from Daddy Sony, telling Playstation what's going to happen and then them just "dealing" with it.

aren't they repurposing the factories for AI instead of discs? that definitely suggests a top-down move since PlayStation wouldn't benefit from AI but Sony itself would