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Playstation killed discs without telling its publishers or business partners.

Hi all,

First time in a while making a thread, but this may deserve one. It isn't a known website, not for things of this order of magnitude, but the person who wrote the article is a former IGN reporter, I believe so it may be worth discussing.



I'm surprised that any publishers and developers haven't spoken out, but I've seen subtle things like ensuring a physical copy will exist(i.e. Onimusha).

Seems like some real scumbag nonsense going on if this has credibility. Sony seems to have found their arrogance arc again, unfortunately.
 
They've given publishers and business partners 18 months notice, is that not enough?
It's about speaking to partners about the decision in general. Whether or not it should even happen.

It's Sony's platform, but making a unilateral decision irregardless of how it may impact partners who sell on your system is definitely an .... arrogant... thing to do.

Think of the decision this way, Sony will gladly burn down a $2b industry just to make an extra $500m for themselves per year. They make more money, yes, but a lot of partners (not just publishers but retailers and such) could lose even more money.

In the end it could shrink the overall business for stakeholders at the cost of their (Sony's) own bottom line.
 
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This is possibly planned by Sony and Rockstar this scummy killing of disc, full control on digital content, and sony's hunger for AI money by converting its blue ray factory into lenses use by AI farm. Sony lost allot of goodwill from its fan who bought and even fought for ps1 to ps5.
 
This is possibly planned by Sony and Rockstar this scummy killing of disc, full control on digital content, and sony's hunger for AI money by converting its blue ray factory into lenses use by AI farm. Sony lost allot of goodwill from its fan who bought and even fought for ps1 to ps5.
I wouldn't be surprised if these two shitcunt companies colluded together.
 
As much as I am all for piling on Sony for this decision, something about this story feels like made up bullshit.

Sources familiar with the company's plans speaking to me on condition of anonymity fearing retribution
This especially reads to me like "we made up every quote from here on".
 
This is possibly planned by Sony and Rockstar this scummy killing of disc, full control on digital content, and sony's hunger for AI money by converting its blue ray factory into lenses use by AI farm. Sony lost allot of goodwill from its fan who bought and even fought for ps1 to ps5.
It feels more like Sony saw the almost zero backlash from GTAVI announcement and huge pre orders and said "fuck it lets do it", there were zero leaks about this, so I can see this being a recent rapid decision.
 
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I am certain the publishers were "against" this move by Sony.

It's on the customer to stop the corp. Stop giving them money and let's see what happens.

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As much as I am all for piling on Sony for this decision, something about this story feels like made up bullshit.


This especially reads to me like "we made up every quote from here on".

If the person who wrote the article didn't have a journalistic background from a mainstream site, I would agree.

I still somewhat remain skeptical, but I felt it warranted to make a discussion thread on this.

It is a little strange that they would have capabilities or pull enough to get insight or commentary from anonymous sources over someone like Jason(even if not a fan, he does vet his stuff).

Unless they(sources)felt a smaller site would gain less traction and felt safer, but this is making the rounds pretty fast as people are obviously still very angry.
 
Even if they talked it was just an unforced (colossal) error. If they did not even talk with them it is even more "hilarious".
I would have thought Take2, EA, Ubi etc were rather a pushing force.
Sony really dropped the ball for no f-ing reason.

Digital is the future, but forcing everyone for no reason is just a terrible unneccesary move. Sony was winning and I guess MS thought about digital only (again) too, but currently this might be their way out of there own misery if they just recreated the same mocking used game sharing video Sony did years ago.
 
It's about speaking to partners about the decision in general. Whether or not it should even happen.

It's Sony's platform, but making a unilateral decision irregardless of how it may impact partners who sell on your system is definitely an .... arrogant... thing to do.

Think of the decision this way, Sony will gladly burn down a $2b industry just to make an extra $500m for themselves per year. They make more money, yes, but a lot of partners (not just publishers but retailers and such) could lose even more money.

In the end it could shrink the overall business for stakeholders at the cost of their (Sony's) own bottom line.

One of the unfortunate aspects of digitization is the centralization of wealth. With physical media sales the revenues were divided among a host of different business: the disc replication plant, the company producing the plastic cases, the printer producing the case inlays, logistics companies transporting millions of disc cases around the world, brick and mortar businesses, small online shops and giant online retailers like Amazon, they could all profit from selling Sony PS games on physical discs. This system allowed thousands of people to have a job and earn a living.

When Sony stops releasing new games on disc, that money now goes to just one (Sony 1st party release) or two companies (3rd party release).
 
PlayStation, also, effectively killed their own brand in one single day last week.
Its your money - but who is going to trust a digital-only console - from a company that is proven to (and will) just turn off and take away digital content and entire digital stores on a whim.
The PS6 is a literal temporary, limited lifespan, highly expensive, entertainment doorstop.
Fascinating to watch.
 
And this is where competition matters. If Xbox wasn't a complete fuckfest, this is their play:

20 second clip: 'How to play your physical games next generation'....Xbox logo surrounded by a collage of physical Helix game cases
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Check your calendar guys

2028 is 18 months away
Rule 1 with business is to always go running and telling everyone your 10+ year strategy, especially with those who work with your competitors.

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This disc outrage thing is getting more silly each day. Its so manufactured now.
 
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What is that site? Never heard of it.

Let us know how hard this will hit your download speeds in 2028 when you're doing what you're doing now which is downloading digital games on a PC or PS5.
 
I think (big) publishers were devastated, in tears and on permanent suicide watch when they heard that from 2028 on papa Sony will eradicate the used game market.
 
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Bear in mind this was just cursory glance into who they are. Im not saying you're wrong by any means, but seems they do a lot of different things which is a lot to put on the line for bullshit.

But you never know
Feels to me like his biggest experience is with IGN India? Not something that would put you in much contact with publishers imo.

The piece itself comes off way too aggressive and drama-seeking. Which matches his personality on Twitter from what I've seen.
 
Feels to me like his biggest experience is with IGN India? Not something that would put you in much contact with publishers imo.

The piece itself comes off way too aggressive and drama-seeking. Which matches his personality on Twitter from what I've seen.


Okay, so your opinion is dramatized fake news for clicks! That's fine and it may indeed prove correct.

But I'd like to discuss the plausibility of this until which time it's debunked or whatever and the thread can be locked, rather than dance around talking about the author of the piece.

I think they rode the coat tails of R* and figured it'd be okay.
 
We're all upset.
In all likelihood, Capcom, Konami, and other developers are outraged and furious with PlayStation.

They are idiots with a capital I.

We're going to hit PlayStation where it hurts the most.
 
They've given publishers and business partners 18 months notice, is that not enough?
Everything is converging; even Xbox and Nintendo quietly strike deals among the three of them... The same goes for the companies.

Unlike PlayStation, which—acting like a total moron and driven by sheer audacity—just does things out of nowhere.
 
Besides indie developers, I think most publishers are loving this news. They make more money from every digital copy sold, so there's really no downside for them. Sony is taking all the hate, so publishers can just say, "We can't produce discs without Sony. It's not our fault."
 
They're not asking for opinions though, they announced their move

Like I said in another thread, this is likely just the canary in the mine of a total collapse of disc based media in the coming years, movies included.
Sony isn't the only manufacturer of 4k Blu Rays. Will the market continue to shrink? Yes. But 4k Blu Ray will hit Vinyl record status. The increase in quality and fidelity is clearly better than other formats; it'll justify a niche to exist. The cost may go up, but that's just how it goes.
 
You have to be a special kind of retarded to cheer for people having less options.

I get it--for those that like it, it's convenient or whatnot.


Convenience at the expense of actual ownership is wild to cheer for, imo.

Anyone remember the infamous P.T.? I recall PlayStation systems that still had access selling for bucketloads. You can't access it even if you previously had ot and removed it.
 
hilariously incompetent.

fire hermen, fire nishino, fire totoki
 
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Sony is apparently still hiding on social media.

I'm actually hoping for a blog post in the coming days saying something along the lines of, "We hear you loud and clear, and physical releases will remain as they are for now".
 
of course they didn't tell them....that shit would've leaked faster than the titanic. they just got 18 months notice.

everybody coming out the woodwork to make threads and throw fuel on the fire over nothing, eh?
 
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It's about speaking to partners about the decision in general. Whether or not it should even happen.

It's Sony's platform, but making a unilateral decision irregardless of how it may impact partners who sell on your system is definitely an .... arrogant... thing to do.

Think of the decision this way, Sony will gladly burn down a $2b industry just to make an extra $500m for themselves per year. They make more money, yes, but a lot of partners (not just publishers but retailers and such) could lose even more money.

In the end it could shrink the overall business for stakeholders at the cost of their (Sony's) own bottom line.
Is an unilateral decision, but they need to be informed. Do you think Apple has a TownHall with the developers for whatever decision they do on iOS?
This is not a democracy, where every developer has a voice....lol

That's not how it works on real big businesses.
 
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A recent gamesindustry biz article on the topic hinted at the same, citing Game File which is paywalled.

Apparently Sony gave additional information to partners in private in the days after the public announcement.

After last week's announcement, Sony provided more details in a separate post on a digital platform for partners, as reported by Game File.

 
Alternatively,

Sony's message to its partners

Sony publicly announced the no-disc news on its official channels, including the PlayStation blog, at 8am ET on Wednesday (Game File also had the news at that time).

Sony's public blog post cited shifts in "consumer preferences and the broader entertainment industry" and the "natural direction for Sony Interactive Entertainment to adapt to consumer trends."

The more private one, shared with PlayStation developers and publishers on a digital portal for platform partners, was viewed by Game File. It uses some similar language. For example, it calls the 2028 cut-off of discs for new PlayStation games, a "response" to the "shift from physical discs by consumers and the broader entertainment industry."

For the partner message, Sony made a point to say that game publishers "will still be able to place re-orders for existing PlayStation disc games." That makes explicit the implicit carve-out in the public post, affirming that, say, a PS5 game released in 2027 can still get new discs printed after January 2028. Sony told partners that the ordering process for discs will change in some TBA ways.

Sony also notified its partners that it will "provide publishers with the opportunity to release new games at retail using digital codes," with more details to come (basically, there was no immediate clarity for game makers about whether those codes will be packed in boxes, embedded into cards, or even offered as in inhalant a la 2078's PlayStation 9).

Public blowback

Sony used a black rectangle with a white PlayStation logo for its public announcement, a visual it's previously used for bad news about price hikes and service shutdowns. That's a clear sign that Sony didn't expect fruit baskets and flowers for the news.

The official post on the U.S. PlayStation blog has 7,700 comments and counting, compared to low double digits on the posts preceding or following it. A sampling:

  • "Do not like this, I've always preferred physical to digital."
  • "Game sizes are going up and hard drives are sky rocketing in price. You will own nothing and pay more…."
  • "You're going to let us resell and trade our digital games now, right??
On the Japanese PlayStation blog, where comments from readers are a rarity, the news generated over 100 replies from players expressing a mix of resignation about the change and sadness over the loss of physical discs.

The Japanese market is particularly attached to discs and cartridges, and a move from discs risks frustrating players in Sony's home region.

"I think Japanese users do have a stronger penchant for physical media in general, also exemplified by the fact that the country today is the biggest market in the world for music sold on CD," Serkan Toto, a go-to analyst about the Japanese games industry, told Game File.

Toto pointed to a survey from Tokyo-based research firm Cross Marketing that found that it took until 2025 for more Japanese gamers to say they bought all or most of their games digitally than than say they bought all or most as physical media.



The edge of the PS5 disc for Cooking Companions. Photo: Game File
Sony's main remaining facility for making PlayStation game discs is a facility in Austria, The Verge noted this week. On Wednesday, Austrian outlet Salzburg reported that the 300-person Sony DADC (Digital Audio Disc Corporation) plant in Austria is already switching much of its capacity to making micro lenses. It quoted DADC president Dietmar Tanzer as saying that 50% of its production were for PlayStation discs (20% for new games), with an expected decline to 10% in 2028. (Some PS5 discs released as recently this year state they were made in Japan or Brazil, the latter via outside firm Solutions 2 Go.)

After Sony's news became official on Wednesday, I reached out to big publishers such as EA, Take Two, and Ubisoft to see if they had a comment or could say if they will still support discs on PlayStation rival Xbox after January 2028. Everyone declined to comment or didn't reply.

Online, some observers said the key issue with Sony's news wasn't even the fate of discs but the future of digital rights. The discontinuation of discs, they said, threatens to extinguish many of the methods people used to share and preserve their games. Digitally purchased games are really digitally purchased licenses, with less portability and permanence.

Wrote comedian Trevor Noah to his nearly 11 million followers on X/Twitter:

…for a lot of gamers physical discs are the only way they could afford to play games because they could get them secondhand. You can also give games to your younger siblings Which is a great way to introduce them to the games you were playing.



Most importantly though, as we saw from PlayStation this past week, if the media we buy is only digital, it can be taken away from us at a moment's notice with no recourse. Imagine that, one day your entire library of games could be deleted overnight because technically you don't own it.

"It really kills my desire to develop for the platform."



On Twitter/X, Billy Basso, developer of the lauded 2024 indie game Animal Well, lamented Sony's move. Basso posted photos of physical PS5 boxed copies of his game, writing:

Extremely sad to think I'll never release another physical game for PlayStation. Releasing the physical versions of Animal Well was a huge motivator all throughout development. It really kills my desire to develop for the platform. I'm hoping they reverse this decision : (
The PC version of Animal Well, which I played obsessively, had only released digitally. I followed up with Basso to discuss the difference between his anxiety over an all-digital PlayStation future vs. the nearly all-digital PC present.

Basso broke it down for me:

It's important to me that the games I make will be playable for many decades after release. On console, physical releases are important since it's the only insurance against the platform shutting their digital store down at some point (as PlayStation just announced with PS3 and Vita!)

For PC it is less of an issue, because it is an open platform, and people can more easily share, mod, etc.. I do still have interest in doing a physical PC release at some point. I also think if more consoles back out of physical distribution, we'll see more boutique physical PC releases.
Even more on this topic:

  • Jean-Luc Mélenchon, a candidate for next year's presidential election in France, reacted to the Sony news and to GTA VI launching disc-free by stating: "Demain, vous paierez sans jamais rien posséder. Ni prêt, ni revente, ni garantie de conserver ce qu'on a payé." (Google translation to English: "Tomorrow, you will pay without ever owning anything. No loan, no resale, no guarantee of keeping what we've paid for.")
  • Iam8Bit, a company that makes physical collectors' editions of games, said they "were profoundly disappointed by Sony's decision."
 
Sony is apparently still hiding on social media.

I'm actually hoping for a blog post in the coming days saying something along the lines of, "We hear you loud and clear, and physical releases will remain as they are for now".
The fuckers are hiding, hoping the storm blows over.
I hope people won't give up, make them regret it, even when not reverse they should feel the repurcussions of their decision.
Also retailers should stop stocking and selling Sony hardware, Sony is about to kill their revenue stream, why help them selling their consoles for a minimal profit while they take away the games that are supposed to make a profit for the store.
 
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