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FIFA World Cup 2026 - It's Called Football, Not Soccer!

diffusionx said:
I'm in Europe now and I do not know how people here stay up to watch these games. I tried to stay up to watch Brazil England (no bars open where I am currently I could find), made it to about 2:45 and passed out. So I could have watched the first half had it not gotten delayed.
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In south Europe sleeping habits are different and people stay up till late, more so in summertime. The other night I heard from my terrace people cheering on the beach bar at 3 AM.
 
German Shocks said:
For the English and Irish, drinking alcohol is a super power.
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Hugare said:
They were really all from south america? lol

This cup has corruption written all over it. So many controversial stuff. Never seen something like this before in any other world cup I've watched since 98.
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I haven't seen the game but apparently the game between France and Paraguay was also heavily criticized for the way the referees handled the game.
 
CAS have said they're on standby for a quick decision if FIFA turn down Belgium's appeal. My guess is this gets overturned as CAS won't uphold something that's a one-off decision outside of Garincha in 1962 which was due t political interference.

This opens up a minefield of future appeals if it isn't overturned as Tuchel has said today.
 
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Portugal Spain should be tasty later, then Belgium Vs USA.

Money is on Spain and Belgium. Hopefully see the back of Ronaldo tonight and the Belgium game is tarnished with that rediculous decision so i hope they pull through. Sorry US gaf.

They should have recinded the red card completely if anything, suspending it is just bizarre.
 
clarky said:
Portugal Spain should be tasty later, then Belgium Vs USA.

Money is on Spain and Belgium. Hopefully see the back of Ronaldo tonight and the Belgium game is tarnished with that rediculous decision so i hope they pull through. Sorry US gaf.

They should have recinded the red card completely if anything, suspending it is just bizarre.
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Bruh, you do know that the USA is used to being the villain right? You're playing right into their hands. Guaranteed win now.
 
Idleyes said:
Bruh, you do know that the USA is used to being the villain right? You're playing right into their hands. Guaranteed win now.
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I like the yanks you are not the villain FIFA is, this is about sticking one finger up to them.

The more I think about the more insane the decision is. Suspending the card still means he still guilty (hes not) so it creates a mine field and makes a mockery of the rules. We are now fully within our rights to request our red card gets suspended from last night as well even though he deserves the card. Do you see how stupid this is?

Like I said they should remove the card completely if anything, people would have less of an issue. Although it would still be an issue.
 
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Personally, I'd be more inclined to push for more overturns of bad calls instead of just accepting that players can be forced to miss entire games from shoddy officiating.
 
Varteras said:
Personally, I'd be more inclined to push for more overturns of bad calls instead of just accepting that players can be forced to miss entire games from shoddy officiating.
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Its in the rules that you can't appeal a one match ban. Agreed that should be looked at, but not in the middle of a tournament.
 
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clarky said:
Its in the rules that you can't appeal a one match ban. Agreed that should be looked at, but not in the middle of a tournament.
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Eh. It needs to start somewhere. Perhaps this is the catalyst needed to get the fans off their asses and stop accepting the shitshow. Only one cup has to be "ruined" for a big change improving generations of outcomes. Small price to pay. I'm okay with the US being the villain if it meant a good change came of it.
 
Varteras said:
Personally, I'd be more inclined to push for more overturns of bad calls instead of just accepting that players can be forced to miss entire games from shoddy officiating.
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Maybe, but that decision shouldn't come in the middle of a world cup. There's a debate to have there certainly but before the next tournament starts.
 
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Varteras said:
Eh. It needs to start somewhere. Perhaps this is the catalyst needed to get the fans off their asses and stop accepting the shitshow. Only one cup has to be "ruined" for a big change improving generations of outcomes. Small price to pay. I'm okay with the US being the villain if it meant a good change came of it.
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Start after a tournament not in the middle of one. Are we going to look at all previous cards in this tournament as well and give compensation to teams that lost unfairly due to similar incidents?

Theres been loads of incidents like this over the years, why change things right now?

It's retarded. Imagine if Balogun scores the winner in extra time tonight? It will taint the victory, shouldn't be happening.
 
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moogman said:
Maybe, but that decision shouldn't come in the middle of a world cup. There's a debate to have there certainly but before the next tournament starts.
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clarky said:
Start after a tournament not in the middle of one. Are we going to look at all previous cards in this tournament as well and give compensation to teams that lost unfairly due to similar incidents?

Theres been loads of incidents like this over the years, why change things right now?

It's retarded. Imagine if Balogun scores the winner in extra time tonight? It will taint the victory, shouldn't be happening.
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I'd argue the middle of a huge tournament is the BEST time for this crap to be exposed. That's the best chance to get it changed. If business as usual happens then nothing will change. You think if that call wasn't overturned that there would be some big conversation about it? Hell no. It would just be accepted as it always is because that is exactly your argument for how it should be handled. But overturn a red card punishment during the Cup? Now you get people talking.

The mentality you both have is a big contributor to why nothing changes. Because you don't want the friction that leads to the change.
 
Varteras said:
I'd argue the middle of a huge tournament is the BEST time for this crap to be exposed. That's the best chance to get it changed. If business as usual happens then nothing will change. You think if that call wasn't overturned that there would be some big conversation about it? Hell no. It would just be accepted as it always is because that is exactly your argument for how it should be handled. But overturn a red card punishment during the Cup? Now you get people talking.

The mentality you both have is a big contributor to why nothing changes. Because you don't want the friction that leads to the change.
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Lol no your dead wrong.

I want last nights card suspended then, whats the issue?

They change the rules all the time btw, things have not been set in stone for 100 years.
 
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Angry_Megalodon said:
In south Europe sleeping habits are different and people stay up till late, more so in summertime. The other night I heard from my terrace people cheering on the beach bar at 3 AM.
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This is why I would spend summers in South Europe if I was financially independent. I love this style of living where everyone stays up late enjoying life. Whenever I come back home from a trip there it feels so depressing to walk through my city in the evening and basically everything is closed. And you can't even buy a bear from a stand and walk around.
 
clarky said:
Lol no your dead wrong.

I want last nights card suspended then, whats the issue?
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I have no idea what you're referring to here. Didn't pay much attention other than who won. And frankly, I don't care about what examples you try and bring to the table. You acknowledge that change needs to be made, but bad officiating and unfair suspensions have apparently been going on for a long time and nothing is done about it. You don't think something big at a big moment needs to happen for it to change. I disagree and think you're then not serious enough about wanting things to change.
 
Varteras said:
I have no idea what you're referring to here. Didn't pay much attention other than who won. And frankly, I don't care about what examples you try and bring to the table. You acknowledge that change needs to be made, but bad officiating and unfair suspensions have apparently been going on for a long time and nothing is done about it. You don't think something big at a big moment needs to happen for it to change. I disagree and think you're then not serious enough about wanting things to change.
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Total bollocks, like i said they change the rules all the time, just not in the middle of a tournament when it suits.

I already agreed that the rules need to be looked at.

Ill ask again why shouldn't the red card from last night also be suspended? You don't know what you are talking about.
 
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clarky said:
Total bollocks, like i said they change the rules all the time, just not in the middle of a tournament when it suits.

I already agreed that the rules need to be looked at.

Ill ask again why shouldn't the red card from last night also be suspended? You don't know what you are talking about.
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No, no. This has nothing to do with knowledge base and everything to do with a disagreement about when something should happen.

If this red card you're referring to that apparently happened last night was shown to be a bad call, then yes. Overturn it. What? You think I was going to say differently because it was England?
 
Varteras said:
No, no. This has nothing to do with knowledge base and everything to do with a disagreement about when something should happen.

If this red card you're referring to that apparently happened last night was shown to be a bad call, then yes. Overturn it. What? You think I was going to say differently because it was England?
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Balogun is still guilty according to FIFA as they have only suspended the card, if you don't see the issue here then i don't know what to say.
 
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Hideous Snake said:
When you fucking appeal for them and rightfully so. Not being overturned out of their arse and make a new rule
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Yeah let them appeal, because clearly it wasn't a red and let anyone else appeal going foward. Not ideal and i still wouldn't agree with it fully but this is a joke.

FIFA are complete mongs.
 
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clarky said:
Balogun is still guilty according to FIFA as they have only suspended the card, if you don't see the issue here then i don't know what to say.
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And many people agreed that the call was wrong and the use of VAR in that manner was wrong. I don't care how FIFA treated it. That's not the point and you keep missing it. Was it a bad call? Was VAR used poorly here? If the answer is yes, then use this as the catalyst to push for better officiating and tell FIFA that even a suspension of the card isn't good enough. That they need to set a much higher bar for what constitutes a red card. What should bother you is the knowledge that poor officiating and suspensions from them have quite likely decided the outcome of tournaments in the past and will continue to if nothing changes. Instead of being stuck on what happens at this one which is far from over. But I get the feeling you're way too in your feelings to see it any other way.
 
clarky said:
I like the yanks you are not the villain FIFA is, this is about sticking one finger up to them.

The more I think about the more insane the decision is. Suspending the card still means he still guilty (hes not) so it creates a mine field and makes a mockery of the rules. We are now fully within our rights to request our red card gets suspended from last night as well even though he deserves the card. Do you see how stupid this is?

Like I said they should remove the card completely if anything, people would have less of an issue. Although it would still be an issue.
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Honestly, I think people are making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Most people agree the red card was rubbish, but they also agree there was still a foul. The issue is with FIFA's rules and transparency around how they decided to handle it.
 
Varteras said:
And many people agreed that the call was wrong and the use of VAR in that manner was wrong. I don't care how FIFA treated it. That's not the point and you keep missing it. Was it a bad call? Was VAR used poorly here? If the answer is yes, then use this as the catalyst to push for better officiating and tell FIFA that even a suspension of the card isn't good enough. That they need to set a much higher bar for what constitutes a red card. What should bother you is the knowledge that poor officiating and suspensions from them have quite likely decided the outcome of tournaments in the past and will continue to if nothing changes. Instead of being stuck on what happens at this one which is far from over. But I get the feeling you're way too in your feelings to see it any other way.
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You are aruging a completely different point. If Balgon is guilty which he is according to FIFA and the red card still stands (its just suspended?) then any other red card should be suspended as well regardless of what you or I think of any infringement.

Im not emotional btw, we are not playing the usa lol. I was using last nights card as an example of how stupid this is. Fully used to red and yellow cards, just not fifa making shit up as they please.
 
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clarky said:
Yeah let them appeal, because clearly it wasn't a red and let anyone else appeal going foward. Not ideal and i still wouldn't agree with it fully but this is a joke.

FIFA are complete mongs.
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Absolute shit show. I find it a red card because it was serious foul. Intentional or not doesn't matter because if his ankle got dislocated, people would've shut the fuck up and doesn't bring up the "intentional or not" argument
Idleyes said:
Honestly, I think people are making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. Most people agree the red card was rubbish, but they also agree there was still a foul. The issue is with FIFA's rules and transparency around how they decided to handle it.
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Again, you have the right to appeal. When your appeal gets accepted, then the card gets overruled. You don't go and fucking drop a card out of your arse when the US didn't even appeal for it. But yeah, it's okay to bend the rules I guess.
 
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