Tunned
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Nuclear Crisis averted.
That "WhoAmI" imbecile wrote "they removed the puddles!".... Holy shit people are retarded.
I'm out, I'm going to go play outside in a puddle outside my house that has been there from a rainy day 30 years ago.
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That "WhoAmI" imbecile wrote "they removed the puddles!".... Holy shit people are retarded.
I'm out, I'm going to go play outside in a puddle outside my house that has been there from a rainy day 30 years ago.
GymWolf
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The only character in rdr2 with good facial details is arthur, ALL the other faces look like shit...i posted a pic of dutch recently and he look like a mid ps3 face...one of my fondest memories of RDR2 was the memorable faces not only in their design but also their realistic portrayal that was only possible using those beautiful skin shaders
I'd argue that the new screenshots show HEAVILY downgraded skin shaders that are not even on par with RDR2
everyone now, inlcudiing both the protagonists, look like plastic dolls in comparison with RDR2. as if the "NPC skin shaders" have been applied to them
which is a terrible shame if true, because one of the things that made my jaw drop the last time they showed screenshots was how staggeringly realistic looking the NPCs were
they looked like actual real people you see out there. faces that have stories and tell you a great deal about the person's background subliminally
I don't know if this would be possible anymore if the one factor that contributed that much were now absent
I mean look at these geezers in the background
blew my mind when I first saw them
everyone looks like a main character here
BUT
I mean
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU EVEN RELEASE THESE ABOMINATIONS IF NOT FOR TEMPERING EXPECTATIONS :
It is bizarre that some ncps in gta6 look much better than the protagonist tho, i agree, but old characters with wrinkles are always gonna look more detailed than young faces with good skin, this is an universal law of videogame faces.
Faces were probably one of the weakest aspects of rdr2.
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H . R . 2
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I agree with you on most points but the other characters in RDR2 looked great as well despite looking young, and they had amazing skin shaders
also one thing RDR2 and GTAVI have in common is characters who all live in sun-drenched areas
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anyasok
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Yeah its appalling. Probably worst downgrade i have ever seen. Game making history already!one of my fondest memories of RDR2 was the memorable faces not only in their design but also their realistic portrayal that was only possible using those beautiful skin shaders
I'd argue that the new screenshots show HEAVILY downgraded skin shaders that are not even on par with RDR2
everyone now, inlcudiing both the protagonists, look like plastic dolls in comparison with RDR2. as if the "NPC skin shaders" have been applied to them
which is a terrible shame if true, because one of the things that made my jaw drop the last time they showed screenshots was how staggeringly realistic looking the NPCs were
they looked like actual real people you see out there. faces that have stories and tell you a great deal about the person's background subliminally
I don't know if this would be possible anymore if the one factor that contributed that much were now absent
I mean look at these geezers in the background
blew my mind when I first saw them
everyone looks like a main character here
BUT
I mean
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU EVEN RELEASE THESE ABOMINATIONS IF NOT FOR TEMPERING EXPECTATIONS :
GymWolf
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Agree to disagree, i have like 3 or 4 runs with the game and i was never impressed with their faces once compared to the best faces of the ps4 era.I agree with you on most points but the other characters in RDR2 looked great as well despite looking young, and they had amazing skin shaders
also one thing RDR2 and GTAVI have in common is characters who all live in sun-drenched areas
Maybe saying that they look like shit was a bit too hard.
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H . R . 2
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I haven't lost faith in Rockstar. I think the trailer will reassure everyone, but their marketing/social media team deserves a good spanking for posting those screenshots
especially after setting the bar so high with the second batch of images and after telling everyone it was "running in-game" not in-engine, "on base PS5"
do you know which studio has the best marketing team? iOi.
The promotional art of the new Hitmans series built the game up so much and to good effect that crappy in-game visuals simply couldn't live up to it, and I don't mean technically, but artistically
but I think we all need to relax
GTAVI is gonna be fine and it'll look and play like nothing you've seen
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H . R . 2
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ok but what this is, is basically photomode [which is normally slightly touched and cleaned up by the engine itself: e.g. AA] VS. promotional images [AKA bullshots]
they both look great , I am just adding context here
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Esquie
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If they're both bullshots (photo mode / promotional) it cancels out.
H . R . 2
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Yes, but it doesn't cancel out how an informed audience should objectively and technically perceive them
they are both giving us false expectations
it is just a fun juxtaposition
(and they are not truly equal really, the third set of images have too many different variables that are practically uncomparable: the setting, time of day, the lighting, the reflections, the haze, etc.]
Everything has been tweaked to make the GTAVI shot look like promotional material while the Forza one is just a random dude taking a random photo of a random street with just the same car happening to be there )
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Lol HR2 you've been in a meltdown since yesterday, just sit back and relax man everything's gonna be okay I promise (I hope
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H . R . 2
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don't worry about me, I am solid mateLol HR2 you've been in a meltdown since yesterday, just sit back and relax man everything's gonna be okay I promise (I hope
. actually I have been constantly calming myself and everybody else down the whole timeit's gonna look fine, evnetually; I am not really worried , but this is a graphics thread and yours truly is a massive whore
Cyperpunk has way more advanced RT on Pro, and is running at 4k like at 40-60 fps
BlownUpRich
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I've been playing Cyberpunk 2077 on PS5 Pro (on "RT Pro" mode, it's the 40FPS mode) and my God! It looks absolutely phenomenal, some of the best looking graphics I've seen in any game. The RT effects brought it to the next level. I really want Rockstar to add more RT effects for GTA 6 on the Pro...
Y'know I have a high-end PC and whatnot, I told you guys about that, but it's been with one of my relatives' house for quite a while and I played it with Path Tracing over there. I said this because the Pro version still looks phenomenal even after the PT mode on PC.
Y'know I have a high-end PC and whatnot, I told you guys about that, but it's been with one of my relatives' house for quite a while and I played it with Path Tracing over there. I said this because the Pro version still looks phenomenal even after the PT mode on PC.
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GudOlRub
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Probably next month or August. Doubt they'll drop it right after they released so many new screenshots.
Rockstar is weird man...
GymWolf
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We are just passionate bitchesLol HR2 you've been in a meltdown since yesterday, just sit back and relax man everything's gonna be okay I promise (I hope
Msamy
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Yes, I don't like this strategy, but if I were them 26-6-2026 would be perfect date
Gonzito
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We are just passionate bitches
GymWolf
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viveks86
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This is quite likely. Whoever was in charge of the new promo material should just be fired. Complete lack of understanding of how a scene should be lit. So many shots completely ruined by flooding the faces with front facing lights, while the actual natural lighting of the scene is behind.
Like... what even is this shit? Amateur hour photography is what it is. Opposite facing lights clashing against each other, wiping out most GI as a result
This scene is supposed to be bathed in purple. The fuck are these white spotlights on both sides of Jason clearly staged just for the shot? Even if those spotlights are part of the scene, why is Jason's back lit this way to make him float?
Did he turn the flash on by mistake? Why is everyone working in darkness behind?
Just... vomit inducing.
It's all lacking finesse and subtlety.
They couldn't even leave the cars alone without artificial lights. The car should be bathed in yellow from the sunlight behind. Instead they put white fake lights on it. It's actually frustrating to even look at them. Let alone bother with a technical analysis.
Please release a trailer today to put us out of this misery.
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Gonzito
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Althought i apprecciate the vast knowledge about the argument, i swear i feel so lucky to not be so anal about light systems like you people, i thought those pics looked fine
Same here man. I dont see anything wrong with these screenshots tbh
GymWolf
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On the other hand, i'm far more picky than most when it comes to textures and character models
Toots
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Damn those tattoo artists are thiccck i hope it is a happy ending type of parlor
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viveks86
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Technically, they are all sound. There is no lighting "downgrade" that I can spot so I won't dive deeper. My issues are purely artistic. And I'm sure the actual game has none of this artificial lighting nonsense. It's photo mode done badly and that's purely my subjective opinion. So I can see why you may feel differently. I just HATE this type of composition.
We are just passionate bitches
GymWolf
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The thing with light systems is that even movie directors think that realism is not always the best way to lit a scene, so yeah you can simulate light acting like reality (or a close approximation) with path-tracing and ray tracing and nascar racing but sometimes unrealistic lights just look better.
Maybe the dude that edited the pics thought that this looked better and more flashy than a more natural look.
Msamy
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GymWolf
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And they look...pretty good?!Those are probably the only photos that fully represent gameplay from last patch
Msamy
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For me definitely and next trailer will be amazing
viveks86
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We can agree on that. Exactly why I think the dude should be fired
Yep. These do look good. Natural lighting FTW!
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GudOlRub
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GymWolf
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Probably dynamic bird shit knowing rockstar...I still can't get over the fact that there's bird shit on that boat
Cant wait to see slimy get mad for the huge amount of "useless" details this game is gonna have
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viveks86
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It's character makeup + artificial lights on their face blurring out the details due to SSS working overtime. Here's what Faye's face looks like when she is hit with high intensity lights.
versus
Bojji
's favorite shot:
None of these are downgrades or technical issues in GTA 6. If anything, there is "megalights" now that didn't exist/wasn't as obvious before. It's why I'm continuously discouraging people from analyzing the tech behind these shots, especially anything with face/body closeups.
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Gonzito
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It's character makeup + artificial lights on their face blurring out the details due to SSS working overtime. Here's what Faye's face looks like when she is hit with high intensity lights.
None of these are downgrades or technical issues. If anything, there is "megalights" now that didn't exist/wasn't as obvious before. It's why I'm continuously discouraging people from analyzing the tech behind these shots, especially anything with face/body closeups.
My god she looks horrendous
Mr. PlayStation
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
viveks86
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She looks exactly like the actress (minus missing a lot of self shadowing from her hair). She's actually not that bad when lit correctly.
Unlike Space Baldie (the one I love that everyone hates), Faye's "issues" are entirely technical. Not aesthetic.
GudOlRub
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This fucking game will break records even before the first gameplay footage is out, it's so dumb
RyanEvans21
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12 million already for just cover artThis fucking game will break records even before the first gameplay footage is out, it's so dumb
Mr. PlayStation
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GTA:V did 800 million dollars on open day global sales and hit 1Billion Dollars in it's opening weekend. Safe to say GTAVI would hit comfortably over a billion dollars on opening day.
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