German Shocks
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief and Nosiest Dildo Archeologist
I thought the UK was the land of the free?
I thought the UK was the land of the free?
Yeah. A bit of a rant (but I read it all) and I don't get all of your references, but this is largely what I think. Get on public transit these days and see what kids are doing - each and every single one of them is glued to to their phone, watching mindless 10 second short-form video after video. No one has any attention span - Idleyes suggested schools competing with screen time, but how do you do that when you have a society of people addicted to the instant dopamine rush that comes with short form content, or where a kid without access to a chatbot would be an instant disadvantage in basically every single academic or social situation imaginable?Fuckin' tuck in, fam.
Fuckin' tuck in, fam.
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This is framed as funny, but it's actually pretty scary.
This kid is basically saying they have NOTHING else to do other than consume algorithmic content on various social media.
I understand this child was being hyperbolic, but I do think there's a kernel of truth here, that they have no other meaningful plans, and I think that's really a showcase of today's society.
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There are a tremendous amount of problems with society at large today.
Kids can't read.
Massive over consumption.
People being retarded/assholes for internet points.
Attention spans across the board are fucking shot.
Video games have to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.
Studio executives have mandated that movies get dumbed down and over explain everything so the film can be "watched" as a second-screen experience.
Dating in 2026 is a fucking nightmare. If you don't instantly meet a laundry list of requirements set by someone, they swipe left and you're completely forgotten.
People are butchering their bodies to pursue whatever idealized beauty trend is currently happening right now.
Fast fashion aesthetics both in clothing and home decor are incentivizing the rapid production of cheap goods to meet a breakneck, ever changing demand.
A lot of this... Can be distilled down to a common problem. Social media.
Social media really first "started" with "MySpace." Sure, there were other websites prior, but it didn't really EXPLODE until MySpace. Everyone had a MySpace page. And in your social circle, you fucking knew where you stood when it came to someone's Top 8. This created an environment where people started putting a lot of focus into their online presence. We posted everything, constantly. Work. Kids. Events. Parties. All of it. Because everyone you knew was also on MySpace, it meant that everyone you knew also knew everything you were doing, thinking about, etc. And you for them. You became hyper connected.
Suddenly, you didn't really need to hang out as much anymore. Getting together for a movie night with your friends or just walking around the mall and catching up was suddenly less important, because you already knew everything they were doing. You liked their posts all week.
This grew even more with Facebook. Introducing games like Farmville increased our screen time dramatically. Not only were we posting every random thought we had, when we weren't doing that or liking posts from friends and family, we were spending more time online playing stupid games and being shown advertisements. That idea caught on.
With the advent of the "modern" smartphone around 2007, there was now a whole new way to capitalize on this behavior. It became easier than ever to take pictures right from your phone, post, and share everything you were doing.
Fast forward nearly 20 years and people are more addicted to their phones than ever. We post everything we are doing, but instead of a picture and some text, it might be an entire video, a live stream, whatever. People are constantly voicing their opinions online. And "The Algorithm" is constantly feeding you more content based on stuff you have previously engaged with. To make matters worse, various platforms like tiktok, etc, will actually PAY YOU based on how many views your videos are getting. So now, people are financially incentivized to be radical online, whether that's through ragebait, or extreme behaviors, or whatever.
So now this has created a society that today has very little patience for anything. The next thing they might like is only a swipe away. They can't figure anything out on their own, because they are so accustomed to being told exactly what to do and how to do it. This creates an environment where no one needs to sit down and problem solve. To "figure it out."
Now, if Atreus doesn't tell Dad how to solve the puzzle after about 45 seconds, the player is just going to get bored and quit playing, and do something else. That disengagement is the worst possible thing for a game developer. So they design around it. They know that modern players don't have the patience or attention span for it, so they design around it. If there's any friction at all, the player will just give up. Then it's back to scrolling for more dopamine.
You can be retarded and or an asshole to others because if you record yourself doing it, you might make money, or it might make you popular. Remember when people were just straight up stealing anything not nailed down? Potted plants? Car doors? Remember when all those stupid internet challenges got people hurt, and people have died?
Remember when the internet told us labubus were the most important thing in the world? And people would GET INTO FIGHTS over stanley cups and a fucking tote bag? And people would spend hundreds of dollars on fucking squishy dumplings? Then all of your home decor HAD to be beige. Then gold and silver. Then christmas colors. Your house is beige still? Gross. Kill yourself.
You don't have square shoulders? You should get plastic surgery. Your forehead is HOW MANY fingers wide? You're already 19 and you don't have a BBL or any botox? What do you mean "I've never had any lip surgery before?" Are you even trying to be pretty at all or.. is ugly just.. fine? Maybe you should try hitting yourself in the face with a hammer because everyone knows broken bones grow back stronger and thicker so you can break your jaw over and over again to become a gigachad.
Of course then to meet the overwhelming demand that social media has put on plastic surgery, new clinics pop up all over the place with questionably qualified "doctors." Before your procedure has even fully healed, square shoulders are out. Now you just look like an ugly linebacker. Ew. Gross. Cringe.
Fashion has gone from "what's in this season" to "what's in this week." Everything is made cheap and fast these days, and nothing is made to last anymore. It doesn't need to. You're going to wear that dress or pants for a few days, maybe for a video or two, and then it's off to the landfill.
Social media is a plague that has ruined society in so many ways, or at the very least, heavily contributed to its downfall. Too many voices, often from bad actors looking to make a buck, had too much power, and way too much influence over the masses.
Ban all of it. As much as I would like that, as long has the almighty dollar makes the world go 'round, that ain't happening. Not when that industry generates around 250 billion per year in revenue from ads alone.
It's like watching a train crash in slow motion. I don't see a fix for this. Not until people decide enough is enough and just quit using the platforms.
Not go outside. Not play with friends. Not hang out with family. Not engage in hobbies or meaningful pursuits. Not read.
I understand this child was being hyperbolic, but I do think there's a kernel of truth here, that they have no other meaningful plans, and I think that's really a showcase of today's society.
Fuckin' tuck in, fam.
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This is framed as funny, but it's actually pretty scary.
This kid is basically saying they have NOTHING else to do other than consume algorithmic content on various social media.
Not go outside. Not play with friends. Not hang out with family. Not engage in hobbies or meaningful pursuits. Not read.
I understand this child was being hyperbolic, but I do think there's a kernel of truth here, that they have no other meaningful plans, and I think that's really a showcase of today's society.
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There are a tremendous amount of problems with society at large today.
Kids can't read.
Massive over consumption.
People being retarded/assholes for internet points.
Attention spans across the board are fucking shot.
Video games have to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.
Studio executives have mandated that movies get dumbed down and over explain everything so the film can be "watched" as a second-screen experience.
Dating in 2026 is a fucking nightmare. If you don't instantly meet a laundry list of requirements set by someone, they swipe left and you're completely forgotten.
People are butchering their bodies to pursue whatever idealized beauty trend is currently happening right now.
Fast fashion aesthetics both in clothing and home decor are incentivizing the rapid production of cheap goods to meet a breakneck, ever changing demand.
A lot of this... Can be distilled down to a common problem. Social media.
Social media really first "started" with "MySpace." Sure, there were other websites prior, but it didn't really EXPLODE until MySpace. Everyone had a MySpace page. And in your social circle, you fucking knew where you stood when it came to someone's Top 8. This created an environment where people started putting a lot of focus into their online presence. We posted everything, constantly. Work. Kids. Events. Parties. All of it. Because everyone you knew was also on MySpace, it meant that everyone you knew also knew everything you were doing, thinking about, etc. And you for them. You became hyper connected.
Suddenly, you didn't really need to hang out as much anymore. Getting together for a movie night with your friends or just walking around the mall and catching up was suddenly less important, because you already knew everything they were doing. You liked their posts all week.
This grew even more with Facebook. Introducing games like Farmville increased our screen time dramatically. Not only were we posting every random thought we had, when we weren't doing that or liking posts from friends and family, we were spending more time online playing stupid games and being shown advertisements. That idea caught on.
With the advent of the "modern" smartphone around 2007, there was now a whole new way to capitalize on this behavior. It became easier than ever to take pictures right from your phone, post, and share everything you were doing.
Fast forward nearly 20 years and people are more addicted to their phones than ever. We post everything we are doing, but instead of a picture and some text, it might be an entire video, a live stream, whatever. People are constantly voicing their opinions online. And "The Algorithm" is constantly feeding you more content based on stuff you have previously engaged with. To make matters worse, various platforms like tiktok, etc, will actually PAY YOU based on how many views your videos are getting. So now, people are financially incentivized to be radical online, whether that's through ragebait, or extreme behaviors, or whatever.
So now this has created a society that today has very little patience for anything. The next thing they might like is only a swipe away. They can't figure anything out on their own, because they are so accustomed to being told exactly what to do and how to do it. This creates an environment where no one needs to sit down and problem solve. To "figure it out."
Now, if Atreus doesn't tell Dad how to solve the puzzle after about 45 seconds, the player is just going to get bored and quit playing, and do something else. That disengagement is the worst possible thing for a game developer. So they design around it. They know that modern players don't have the patience or attention span for it, so they design around it. If there's any friction at all, the player will just give up. Then it's back to scrolling for more dopamine.
You can be retarded and or an asshole to others because if you record yourself doing it, you might make money, or it might make you popular. Remember when people were just straight up stealing anything not nailed down? Potted plants? Car doors? Remember when all those stupid internet challenges got people hurt, and people have died?
Remember when the internet told us labubus were the most important thing in the world? And people would GET INTO FIGHTS over stanley cups and a fucking tote bag? And people would spend hundreds of dollars on fucking squishy dumplings? Then all of your home decor HAD to be beige. Then gold and silver. Then christmas colors. Your house is beige still? Gross. Kill yourself.
You don't have square shoulders? You should get plastic surgery. Your forehead is HOW MANY fingers wide? You're already 19 and you don't have a BBL or any botox? What do you mean "I've never had any lip surgery before?" Are you even trying to be pretty at all or.. is ugly just.. fine? Maybe you should try hitting yourself in the face with a hammer because everyone knows broken bones grow back stronger and thicker so you can break your jaw over and over again to become a gigachad.
Of course then to meet the overwhelming demand that social media has put on plastic surgery, new clinics pop up all over the place with questionably qualified "doctors." Before your procedure has even fully healed, square shoulders are out. Now you just look like an ugly linebacker. Ew. Gross. Cringe.
Fashion has gone from "what's in this season" to "what's in this week." Everything is made cheap and fast these days, and nothing is made to last anymore. It doesn't need to. You're going to wear that dress or pants for a few days, maybe for a video or two, and then it's off to the landfill.
Social media is a plague that has ruined society in so many ways, or at the very least, heavily contributed to its downfall. Too many voices, often from bad actors looking to make a buck, had too much power, and way too much influence over the masses.
Ban all of it. As much as I would like that, as long has the almighty dollar makes the world go 'round, that ain't happening. Not when that industry generates around 250 billion per year in revenue from ads alone.
It's like watching a train crash in slow motion. I don't see a fix for this. Not until people decide enough is enough and just quit using the platforms.
What? You're kidding. I thought she was being sincere. Gosh, Tams. You always have such great insight for me. I'm so glad you go out of your way to comment on my posts.You do realise she was being incredibly sarcastic?
Given she has an American accent, she truly is fitting in.
You were optimistic, they're going to announce plans to tackle VPNs next month.Fuck that, I'd use a VPN until they inevitably ban those too in a couple of years.
Even China can't stamp out VPNs.You were optimistic, they're going to announce plans to tackle VPNs next month.
Russians will never let this happen.You were optimistic, they're going to announce plans to tackle VPNs next month.
We have to show ID when voting, that's been a thing for ages, they usually accept a passport, drivers license or a Government ID card.What's the UK's status on voter ID? There's a small contingent in the US that wants ID for voting in elections to be illegal. Is that the case in the UK?
It'd be ironic if they want online ID but not voter ID.
I thought the UK was the land of the free?
Control the indigenous population, only to let the immigrants flood in?Remember, it's never about the kids, it's always about population control.
Let immigrant flood the housing and the job markets. School classrooms stay behind to accomodate students that can't even speak the language.Control the indigenous population, only to let the immigrants flood in?
Remember, it's never about the kids, it's always about population control.
If they cared about kids the whole Epstein gang wouldn't exist anymore.
I thought the UK was the land of the free?
When has a "full ban" on anything ever been the "right choice"?
Full ban on murder?When has a "full ban" on anything ever been the "right choice"?
I believe the UK even accepts expired IDs when it comes to votingWe have to show ID when voting, that's been a thing for ages, they usually accept a passport, drivers license or a Government ID card.
Which part?That's not what happened.
Might be the better way to rephrase the question.When has a "full ban" on anything considered socially acceptable ever been the "right choice"?
Andrew, Savile, Muslim Rape Gangs...
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But no, we most protect the children online, introducing draconian laws that collect even more data on all citizens (and flag minors... this data can be very useful for some people).
Has the UK always required ID to vote? I am SOOOO pissed the SAFE act didn't pass here!I believe the UK even accepts expired IDs when it comes to voting
You would have never heard of this if wasn't for Social media. That is why social media is the problem. They don't control the narrative.
And this is why the west will continue to fall as the noose tightens slowly with their own approval.I know it is to better control social discourse but still it will do tremendously good to UK teens.
A win is a win.
I dunno, probably?Has the UK always required ID to vote? I am SOOOO pissed the SAFE act didn't pass here!
It's not the same kind of social media. It's "social media" before things like Facebook needed a term to differentiate themselves from regular forums. And that term is social media. Thus NeoGaf isn't really "social media".You realise that this forum is social media?
How is it sensible and a win when they're still allowed only on narrow controlled platforms without dissenting opinion? Ones well known for grooming and pro-Islam/commie drivel.Queer Stormer doing something sensible ?
Colour me pleasantly surprise.
I know it is to better control social discourse but still it will do tremendously good to UK teens.
A win is a win.
This is a gross overgeneralization and actually highlights what's wrong with social media. Instagram, Facebook, X, Snapchat, TikTok, etc all curate posts, messages, feeds deliberately to cater to YOU. So what this ends up really doing is creating like-minded groupthink hives and creates more and more alienation and intolerance towards open-mindedness. Id strongly argue its exactly why politics, media, etc are all so highly volatile and cutthroat nowadays. You say most of the shit people say online in the real world, you look insane and unhinged.You can complain about the algorithm, you can complain about influencers, but the core of social media is people talking to each other. This is a bad precedent and lazy society solution to problems.
You know exactly which part, don't play dumb. No point discussing this here.Which part?
Not playing dumb, genuinely asking, and yes discussion boards have a point in discussing....You know exactly which part, don't play dumb. No point discussing this here.
But no, we most protect the children online, introducing draconian laws that collect even more data on all citizens (and flag minors... this data can be very useful for some people).
If only there was some way these parties could be held responsible for breaking their words and pledges, literally EVERYTHING Starmer said to get elected and in power has been abandoned or u-turned on, this isn't what the people voted for, it's beyond fucking annoying to ALWAYS have this happen in the UK where a party will say anything to sweet talk voters and then ditch it after getting into power, it legit leaves most people apathetic towards voting because even when we do, these cunts are A-OK with throwing the people under a bus right away and then going "oh well, we're in power for the next five years now".Politicians are speedrunning the destruction of the UK on all fronts.
They clearly show there's no voting your way out of this mess.If only there was some way these parties could be held responsible for breaking their words and pledges, literally EVERYTHING Starmer said to get elected and in power has been abandoned or u-turned on, this isn't what the people voted for, it's beyond fucking annoying to ALWAYS have this happen in the UK where a party will say anything to sweet talk voters and then ditch it after getting into power, it legit leaves most people apathetic towards voting because even when we do, these cunts are A-OK with throwing the people under a bus right away and then going "oh well, we're in power for the next five years now".
If only there was some way these parties could be held responsible for breaking their words and pledges, literally EVERYTHING Starmer said to get elected and in power has been abandoned or u-turned on, this isn't what the people voted for, it's beyond fucking annoying to ALWAYS have this happen in the UK where a party will say anything to sweet talk voters and then ditch it after getting into power, it legit leaves most people apathetic towards voting because even when we do, these cunts are A-OK with throwing the people under a bus right away and then going "oh well, we're in power for the next five years now".
It's the land of the fucking tax.I thought the UK was the land of the free?
It's the land of the fucking tax.
Seriously one of the leaked what's app messages the other week was what else can we tax to pay more benefits.