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Why do western devs make female characters uglier in their games?

Woman you can marry in the OG and woman you can marry in Fable for modern audience:

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I ranted plenty already in the new fable gameplay topic about this shit, made by women for women, nuff said :messenger_astonished:
 
Because a lot of the women at those studios are fugly/overweight and are jealous of good looking women.
This is why, but they don't even have to be fat or ugly.

But also the men. The men know that the women will immediately know that the female character has sex appeal and they are horrified at that potential reaction from within their own studio.
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Yeah......................after seeing many East vs. West comparisions over the last few days, I'm finally starting to see it as clear as day. The females just aren't being carried over into the games as 1-to-1 as the East. I still think Faye\Debra look like a clean translation of the real character. And I still think Aloy in Horizon looks like a pretty woman too.

But overall, the West has stopped trying to make the women even look attractive in their games. Very interesting approaches to game development. Especially when you consider Western devs haven't done this to most males in their games.
I respect the fuck out of this post. We probably disagree on a lot, but the fact that you can at least acknowledge our side of the argument is a genuine testament to you engaging with people in good faith
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I love to see someone from the other side admitting the truth of this situation. We all love games here and its not about console wars or anything like that but honestly, this situation with women representation in game is starting to suck

It's easy to be honest about this when all you care about is the truth. Now, I think some of you guys go way too far, but there's clearly something going on.
 
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Chill guys. I'm sure she could have a good personally. That can override visuals surprisingly fast. Think about friends or people you've known who weren't your "type" at first glance but became magnetic once you got to know them. A great personality creates its own attraction and can rewire how you see someone. While looks spark interest, compatibility and emotional connection sustain it. If she's genuinely fun to be around, that initial "unattractive" reaction can fade or even flip.

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That's a man and it's pointless to try and tell me otherwise.
 
All the characters in Fable look so out of place for the setting.

Looks exactly like the casting for Ring of Power and Star Trek Academy, etc..

The modern uggo theater kids era.
 
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For a time I thought people thinking studios were making female game characters ugly were over reacting, however the more time passed, the more I am agreeing that this is true.

I'll drop this video here, the gentleman makes a ton of sense:

 
I don't really think we need 32+ pages to answer this one. DEI hiring has lead to a massive influx of ugly septum-pierced, purple-haired losers within most Western studios. These people don't care about marketing a game towards its intended audience (straight men), they actively want to piss that demographic off and push their message instead which includes the fact that all portrayed women should be ugly because, in their eyes, that is representative of "real women" (aka themselves), while young, thin, attractive women are somehow not "real women". This of course doesn't apply to the male characters which must always be hot and always look faithful to their model. I have yet to see a man who looks like Danny DeVito lead a major videogame franchise, but we're supposed to accept these misrepresentations and ugly hags.

They'll say it's to make the franchise more "inclusive" and expand the target audience to generate more sales. To them though, being "inclusive" means excluding the majority of potential buyers. Then they wonder why they're getting laid off.

All it takes is one DEI hire in the HR department and all hiring going forward is gonna be borked because that one person (most likely a woman) will approve hires based on politics, not talent/passion.
 
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Look at the shoulders and lack of feminine qualities compared to the one on the left has.

The new "Cortana" looks like he/she wants to speak to Guilty Spark's manager.
Agreed. But even the shoulders on the left aren't ideal, still a little too slanted. For me, close to 90° looks best on a woman. There are exercises that women can do to get them:

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In a country like Korea, which has very high beauty standards for women, 90° shoulders are considered the gold standard and many kpop idols and actresses have them.
 
They believe it makes their stuff look more grounded.. deluded into thinking would be perceived as serious and prestigious as a movie would be. Not sure how you guys never noticed how fucking trash actresses can look in movies compared to their real life counterpart, in drama and such.
At the same time, they keep ESG and all the left wing lunatics happy. It is what it is. Wouldn't be personally interested in the game even if she was hot.


Classy.

That same director directed this for us.

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And recently said she's "very proud of it". But whatever, you are well within your rights to be an asshole with such comments.
Where's this from? 😮
 
When I see the comparisons to Asian devs it just can't be denied. Those examples are spot on. Now some examples here of GOWL Deborah do also look correct while other pictures absolutely look off.

So I have no idea why tf both Sony and MS do this for their own characters while allowing tons of games where women are attractive and the likeness near perfect. Back in the day Cortana looked good, some Gears of War females as well.

Now honestly, these two new female soldiers do look like "real" hardened soldiers, so to speak but it's a far cry from how the previous games showed them. I don't like it either but at least we have Asia that just does things.....well.
 
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