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Asha: "We will continue to look at new business models...rather than just the most premium, high performance console in the world"
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ChorizoPicozo
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Asha trying to figure out how to "Revive XBOX" TM
midnightAI
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Sanepar
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This only mean one thing for me: a stream box of $99 or $199 that render games on cloud.
A different model from consoles.
semiconscious
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these are desperate times, & the world is looking to asha for direction...
HeisenbergFX4
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Maybe
I know they were working on a straight to cloud gaming controller like Luna but it was shelved, maybe they reveal that later this year?
Puscifer
Gold Member
Microsoft is shitting up the world with AI and plays into the ram crisis.
Anywho, lock people into it by saying all your 360 and up games are BC. All it would take a containerized dev environment to launch it lol
Sanepar
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I said here many times that MS will try ALL they can to enforce a cloud model. But this is good because probably games will be kept on PC. I think this can work really well with Gamepass consumers, they don't want pay for games and don't want pay for hardware.
MisterXDTV
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DeepEnigma
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Asha Spencer
Ambiguity is their lifeblood.
Nothing ever changes other than the cult of personality.
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Well look at Nex. They sold pretty well. They put a $250-$300 cube together with a camera on it and games only via a subscription for ~$100(iirc) for a ~year. Probably outsold the Xbox some weeks during the past xmas season.
Cloud gaming ...well good luck. Some people say it works for them. Always been too laggy too often for my tastes for where I'm at which is not next to the server.
Still they could do a cheap cheap console like Nex that targets casual, family, old console, indie and new 'AAA' graphic limited games and also work in the cloud gaming aspect for access to big productions from 3d parties and from some of their franchises that can't or won't go back in time. A subscription could be the only way to play. Bring your own Gamepad. Buy the new one if you'd like.
Cloud gaming ...well good luck. Some people say it works for them. Always been too laggy too often for my tastes for where I'm at which is not next to the server.
Still they could do a cheap cheap console like Nex that targets casual, family, old console, indie and new 'AAA' graphic limited games and also work in the cloud gaming aspect for access to big productions from 3d parties and from some of their franchises that can't or won't go back in time. A subscription could be the only way to play. Bring your own Gamepad. Buy the new one if you'd like.
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Sanepar
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The best quote It is her answer on this interview about XboX Helix, PC is here to stay:
Asha: "Yeah, well we're having a hard time now. There's more demand than there is supply for our Gen 9 console. And I suspect the same will be there with our Gen 10 console. I'm excited about it. It's a console that's also going to allow you to play your PC games, it's going to have backwards compatibility, it's going to have leading end performance. But there's material work to do to make sure that it is available to the people that want to play. And so we're working on that."
Asha: "Yeah, well we're having a hard time now. There's more demand than there is supply for our Gen 9 console. And I suspect the same will be there with our Gen 10 console. I'm excited about it. It's a console that's also going to allow you to play your PC games, it's going to have backwards compatibility, it's going to have leading end performance. But there's material work to do to make sure that it is available to the people that want to play. And so we're working on that."
Trogdor1123
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Well, somewhere deep in Microsoft there is a bulked up prototype that is never going to see the light of day.
bitbydeath
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Or it's AI related, as they pulled in a number of AI staff onto Xbox, inc. Asha.
DeepEnigma
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You don't pull in AI people to not do AI.
Sure make a peasant S/Cloud console but please please please dont kill Helix! Yes a 1000$ console will sell like shit but........................ Ill Fucking buy one! Need something with the power of a 5080 in the livingroom for the 65" Oled.
Please Lord Asha! There are dozens of us DOZENssssssssss
Please Lord Asha! There are dozens of us DOZENssssssssss
bitbydeath
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I'm not sure what that looks like though.
Maybe it's still cloud based so the hardware can be cheap?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
Might be about to separate xcloud from game pass, or an xcloud only tier. They've been steadily adding dozens of games to the 'stream your owned titles' list and practically every new release is already on there.
Insane Metal
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Yes.
MisterXDTV
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Hohenheim
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So.. Two versions of this Helix thing incoming: a premium version which is bascially a decent 5080-ish gaming PC performance wise, and a S version with 5070 /PS6 performance, for lower resolutions and settings in new games. And they will focus mostly on the S version.
Also a small pure cloud / game pass machine without solid internal hardware. "For the masses".
Thats my two cents.
Also a small pure cloud / game pass machine without solid internal hardware. "For the masses".
Thats my two cents.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
hououinkyouma00
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I still think the general idea of the Series S was a good idea, it just wasn't executed good enough. I think 10GB of dedicated memory (12GB total) and a 6TF (ugh) GPU would have been way better.
Guardian Monkey
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Well good thing. I mean we have all these xboxes phil and bond left us since everything is an xbox. Sounds like nothing changing, except no new powerful console.
It's possible she veered off into a different subject with her response, but that whole part of the conversation was about hardware, not software or services.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
Well good thing. I mean we have all these xboxes phil and bond left us since everything is an xbox. Sounds like nothing changing, except no new powerful console.
Gotta say, I'm in for the Helix idea and hopefully they continue to develop on the specs and boards that kepler etc have reported on as finalized.
Can anyone explain to me why is it "radically different" such goal? Xbox main console was always for the masses, somehow only Helix really tries a new business model though for the niche. There is nothing of radical different in a series S "kinda" of sku...
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Guardian Monkey
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I mean msft has had a better 1st studio showing than Sony this gen. I don't even think that is debatable now.
It is VERY debatable. I mean if you look just for the quantity well it owns 2 big publishers so it's an easy peasy task...
Guardian Monkey
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not at all you can throw Activision out and it still put out way better than sony studios this gen.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
It doesn't show that at all. They give a shit because its the ONLY way to play Nintendo games....until Switch 2 emulation becomes viable. Ocarina remake will jumpstart that those plans it quick order.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
For the entire gen? Fuck no. Not even close. From 2020-2024 Sony blew the doors off of Xbox in terms in terms of exclusives. Fucking seriously, name one good exclusive or even Xbox published had during that time. Starfield? Halo Infinite? Those were decent, sure but didn't hold a candle Forza 5 is the legit the best published game they had.
For me, the best Xbox published games are all from Bethesda and they include Doom Dark Ages and Indiana Jones.
For the past two years? Sure I'll give you that. But this "entire gen?" shit. Get the fuck outta here.
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Guardian Monkey
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Yeah for the entire gen, not up till 2024 wherever the hell that came from.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
| SONY PUBLISHED 2020 - Dreams - MLB The Show 20 - Predator: Hunting Grounds - The Last of Us Part II - Ghost of Tsushima - Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Sackboy: A Big Adventure - Demon's Souls - Astro's Playroom 2021 - Destruction AllStars - MLB The Show 21 - Returnal - Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart - Ghost of Tsushima: Director's Cut - Death Stranding: Director's Cut 2022 - Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection - Horizon Forbidden West - Gran Turismo 7 - MLB The Show 22 - The Last of Us Part I - God of War Ragnarök 2023 - Horizon Call of the Mountain - MLB The Show 23 - Marvel's Spider-Man 2 - God of War Ragnarök: Valhalla 2024 - The Last of Us Part II Remastered - Helldivers 2 - Rise of the Rōnin - Stellar Blade - Concord - Astro Bot - Until Dawn (Remake) - Lego Horizon Adventures | 2020 - Ori and the Will of the Wisps - Bleeding Edge - Minecraft Dungeons - Gears Tactics - Battletoads - Tell Me Why 2021 - Microsoft Flight Simulator - Psychonauts 2 - Forza Horizon 5 - Halo Infinite 2022 - As Dusk Falls - Grounded - Pentiment 2023 - Hi-Fi Rush - Minecraft Legends - Redfall - Starfield - Forza Motorsport - Ghostwire: Tokyo (Xbox Release) 2024 - Senua's Saga: Hellblade II - Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 - Towerborne |
For the record, my favorite games from that list are Horizon Forbidden West, God of War Raganrok, Indiana Jones, Ratchet and Clank. I actually put a lot of time into Starfield, but don't consider it remotely close to an all time great.
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