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[Three]

I didnt followed the discussion, but she looks like a weird porcellain doll even in her best moments, this chick is really a bad example to pick to show videogame hot beauties...

Yeah, there are still some technical issues to overcome in their engine too.

To be honest I don't think Gonzitos Faye/Laufey image is even from the game. The wrinkles and teeth look a bit too real/detailed. I think it might be an AI image. If that's the case then what more can I say about the level of genuine discussion.

 

[Bojji]

I suggest anyone earnestly wondering this go check out the 30 minute Gears E-Day video.

MS was woke even before Sony.

Both of them are beyond saving at this point.

 

[vpance]

These press release screenshots are so unflattering and creepy. I'd rather play as the cube.

 

[Plague Doctor]

I am calling bullshit on this image.

No one in a professional game development's marketing department saw this image and said, "Yeah let's put this out. This is what sells our game."

There is no fucking way.

Edit: This is tied with the Craig image from Halo Infinite.

 

[Three]

I am calling bullshit on this image.

No one in a professional game development's marketing department saw this image and said, "Yeah let's put this out. This is what sells our game."

There is no fucking way.

That isn't really a marketing material image. It's a screengrab of this short part of a gameplay video:

 

[Moondoggy]

Remember this?

Microsoft Doesn't Want Curvy Women In Video Games, Warns Developers Against Certain Body Proportions

Microsoft laid out guidelines about female proportions in their games, but we've seen the document, and we have questions.

www.giantfreakinrobot.com

https://archive.is/97j6H

 

[Barry Burton]

They def ran Hayley Atwell's face through the ugly filter for the new Fable.

 

[Oberstein]

 

[Kakusha]

 

[Gonzito]

I dont know who that guy is but I can't unsee it now

 

[PeteBull]

I think the whole problem is that imo developers are all fucking losers. They just are... I get it they make games that we play but I come to realize very few are "cool" anymore, they're just a bunch of entitled losers that are mostly ugly, retarded and lack every ounce of common sense and the women they employ are also ugly as fuck,losers and nobody wants them.. They do that to themselves but I'm sure they just hate real women that are pretty.

The guys that simp for this shit act like pretty women don't exist... There's more pretty girls than ugly I'll tell you that, I mean I don't go anywhere where there isn't some girl that's a looker. So these devs project their world views, I think it's genuinely as simple as that.

I know there's some devs that are fine but as a whole I feel most are a bunch of losers

Totally diseagree, u can even take ugly ogre-alike male dev and he is perfectly capable of designing/mo-caping hot girl in his game(for sure if he is straight, but very likely even if he is gay or bi too).

Problem is- feminists and their agenda, same 3/10 fat and ugly dev put into male based eastern europe or asian devstudio will thrive while in the western feminist infested work enviroment he will shut his mouth and listen to girlbosses in order to not lose his highpaid job.

Even western dev studios as is, if u take away topheads who gotta aprove or diseaprove final designs/stories and have final saying and in their stead u would put in based ones(think mine, yours and overall al bundy's worldview aka based in reality, not in clownworld), all those feminists wouldnt be able to do shit, any attempt to smuggle uggos or overall wokeism into games would be met with- "back to the desk, fix it, show me other desings that not gonna lose us sales/dont bring bad publicity among our customer base", after 3rd time even feminazi pushing agenda would have to submit to the boss coz her salary depends on it, she and all her "allies" would get trained like puppy dogs till they listens to commands

 

[tkscz]

I dont know who that guy is but I can't unsee it now

Twitch streamer who started with games but moved on to streaming all sorts of content when twitched didn't focus on it. He's gone back to games as of recent.

 

[PeteBull]

Like when people say, "that thar is a real woman"... I'd like to ask have any of these fuck heads ever been to a beach?

Beach? Is that the title of invite only mod aproved rainbowforum special section?

 

[Gonzito]

Santa Monica is getting roasted in the comments lol

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

B

Totally diseagree, u can even take ugly ogre-alike male dev and he is perfectly capable of designing/mo-caping hot girl in his game(for sure if he is straight, but very likely even if he is gay or bi too).

Problem is- feminists and their agenda, same 3/10 fat and ugly dev put into male based eastern europe or asian devstudio will thrive while in the western feminist infested work enviroment he will shut his mouth and listen to girlbosses in order to not lose his highpaid job.

Even western dev studios as is, if u take away topheads who gotta aprove or diseaprove final designs/stories and have final saying and in their stead u would put in based ones(think mine, yours and overall al bundy's worldview aka based in reality, not in clownworld), all those feminists wouldnt be able to do shit, any attempt to smuggle uggos or overall wokeism into games would be met with- "back to the desk, fix it, show me other desings that not gonna lose us sales/dont bring bad publicity among our customer base", after 3rd time even feminazi pushing agenda would have to submit to the boss coz her salary depends on it, she and all her "allies" would get trained like puppy dogs till they listens to commands

I agree but what I think is all these dudes are the sissboy feminist losers that virtue signal to these liberals etc

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Beach? Is that the title of invite only mod aproved rainbowforum special section?

Haha bro I'm normally with you but you lost me dawg

 

[Plague Doctor]

Explaing "the lore" of sassy talking ribbons.

 

[PeteBull]

I agree but what I think is all these dudes are the sissboy feminist losers that virtue signal to these liberals etc

Many are obviously, thats why u need a lion to be commander of sheeps, not another sheep, but many of them are simply afraid to lose their jobs so gotta cosplay as soyboys/male feminists.
Durning gaming i met quite a few westerners living in big cities working highpaying corpojobs, when we played online together they could relax and acted even more rightwing than me(for example threw n-words left and right, i dont coz my native language is polish, our coma-world is "kurva" ) then when funtime ended they literally put on their "job-persona" and acted extremly pollitically correct coz livehood of their families depended on it, and i dont even blame them, was never in that situation but its very probable i would act the same.

 

[John Bilbo]

Explaing "the lore" of sassy talking ribbons.

It has to be done.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Santa Monica is getting roasted in the comments lol

Disney/Marvel AF.

 

[Superposition]

 

[Superposition]

I like her Monica Bellucci vibe, there is some.

 

[Gonzito]

Gears of War E-Day developer

 

[Bojji]

Santa Monica is getting roasted in the comments lol

 

[simpatico]

Gears of War E-Day developer

Looks just like the guy who played outside linebacker with me in high school. Total demon in zone coverage.

 

[Critical Hit]

They def ran Hayley Atwell's face through the ugly filter for the new Fable.

Bleak character and bad lighting

Gears of War E-Day developer

Technical director, doesn't mean much in terms of agenda.

 

[PeteBull]

Gears of War E-Day developer

Forgot coalition devstudio is located in canada, country cooked to the very bone together with their monopoly money

 

[sodstall]

Face scans will probably remain the most uncanny valley in regards to character design. Eyes,eyelids motions in the cheeks to the chin, the hi fidelity and accuracy certainly gets in the way of having a "convincing" design executed. Its unintentional but it really behaves like a 4th wall break sometimes the way that data is captured & re-presented in game.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Face scans will probably remain the most uncanny valley in regards to character design. Eyes,eyelids motions in the cheeks to the chin, the hi fidelity and accuracy certainly gets in the way of having a "convincing" design executed. Its unintentional but it really behaves like a 4th wall break sometimes the way that data is captured & re-presented in game.

I think they pocked up her face on purpose, and I think they did it to signal that they aren't sexualizing their very attractive female main character.

 

[adamsapple]

I don't agree with many of the things in this topic.

But a meme is a meme.

 

[DevilHunterX0]

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

looks fine to me

Except for the fact that she's nowhere near as cute to the real life actress.

 

[Durin]

Santa Monica is getting roasted in the comments lol

The 2 talking objects are still just so lame...like who actually took them seriously enough to think the ribbons have strong moral character vs just being a tool on the sword that replicates the blades of chaos sweeps?

 

[Plague Doctor]

I think we have reached the point to ask the question "Why does Western AAA studios specifically hate motion capture actresses"?

Is this misogyny with extra steps shit or something?

 

[Fake]

Explaing "the lore" of sassy talking ribbons.

God of War.

 

[lachesis]

Not enough polygons.

.. jk.

I think it's less of wokism but more of it's artists tendency of draw a fault/feature out of a any given person - even in 2d, characterizing, more attuned to western art classes. They are not afraid of dirtying up or uglifying the character.
Also cultural differences of idealizing a feminine beauty, even though in Asia they call that as "western" beauty standard - but honestly on a different tangent.

One of the example could be a fashion shoots. Lets say you shoot a same model, on whatever clothing or make up... Chances are in Korea or Japan's shoots would be a lot more softer, more feminine and prettified - but western ones would be more raw and impactful. Not all, I think it's just general tendency coming down from social preferences or stereotypes, and how we are taught to approach - sort of like style differences of each countries do exist. Japan's make up style is different, and Korea's make up style is also different. Western make up style is also quite different as well.

And those sometimes subtle to stark differences get amplified and be shown more on 3D modeling. Just my humble opinion...

But exceptions do exist. Sometimes it's ideology aligned choice... but not always in my opinion.

 

[adamsapple]

Explaing "the lore" of sassy talking ribbons.

Once you understand the lore behind the talking ribbon,y you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.

 

[Plague Doctor]

Once you understand the lore behind the talking ribbon,y you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.

 

[Trilobit]

"Women look twenty years older waking up after a good night's sleep, incels!"

 

[RafterXL]

I think we have reached the point to ask the question "Why does Western AAA studios specifically hate motion capture actresses"?

Is this misogyny with extra steps shit or something?

They don't hate the actresses, they hate their audience. If they could snap their fingers and change the demographics of who buys these games they'd do it in a heartbeat, and this shit would get a whole lot worse. But they can't, so they push things just far enough to constantly be edging us towards that reality, while keeping it small enough to keep the diehard fans from jumping ship.

 

[Signalis]

That's also the mods whenever I post something on a bad day or when I reply to someone who writes all their shit using AI

 

[Isurus]

Games are, in large part, about fantasy. Disconnecting one's self from reality. Much of the western woke community continuously lives in a state of disconnect from reality. Therefore, they flock to the gaming industry and, in turn, develop games that cater to their own fantasy world. Hence, we are inundated with the slop that their brains imagine, including female characters that look unattractive to the typical eye. It is what it is.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Still too beautiful...

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Sorry but it's Dan Marshall from Binary Domain, to me

 

[Superposition]

 

[Madflavor]

I think it's a cultural thing. I really hesitate to say "Western Developers" because it really is American devs for the most part. There are plenty of developers in Europe (Larian, CDPR, Sandfall, Warhorse, etc) who are able to design good looking gals, so it's really that California Mindset that has permeated into so much of American dev workplaces. I don't think it's a conspiracy anymore that activists and a new generation of Millennial developers have deeply entrenched themselves and infected so many great developers. They've entrenched themselves to the point where it's changed the whole workplace culture and mindset, where you dare not even think about having a conventionally attractive female in your game.

Anyone who accuses you of being a chud/incel or a conspiracy theorist on this shit, should be directed to this:


When you have someone who's Anti-GamerGate call attention to the matter with a real example he worked on, and then made a follow up tweet that pretty much spells out he was threatened by his superiors to stfu, you know that this shit is absolutely fucking real.

I predict we're going to see many studios go the wayside or completely collapse within themselves over the next decade. Because you've got the older Gen X devs aging out and being outnumbered by the Millennial devs (who aren't all bad, but it's the bad ones who are controlling everything), and so what we're going to end up with is the Millennial developers in these companies mentoring the younger Gen Z ones, and unfortunately there's a lot of talentless Millennial devs out there. So I genuinely think that most of the usual suspect studios out there are a lost cause. There will be some of them that will continue to thrive like Santa Monica Studios, Naughty Dog, and Sucker Punch because they've established a strong fanbase for themselves, and despite their character designs, they do put out high quality games. But I think many other studios won't survive the coming years.

The good news is we still have Asian/European developers who understand the assignment and still design great characters, and I think if Western Game Development will get any better, it will probably come from Gen Z forming their own indie studios and building themselves up. That's my take anyway.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They don't hate the actresses, they hate their audience. If they could snap their fingers and change the demographics of who buys these games they'd do it in a heartbeat, and this shit would get a whole lot worse. But they can't, so they push things just far enough to constantly be edging us towards that reality, while keeping it small enough to keep the diehard fans from jumping ship.

Boiling frog and poisoning the well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Look at the shoulders and lack of feminine qualities compared to the one on the left has.

The new "Cortana" looks like he/she wants to speak to Guilty Spark's manager.

 

[vindafarna]

Surely, the studio is free to pursue their twisted artistic vision at the cost of poor sales.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Surely, the studio is free to pursue their twisted artistic vision at the cost of poor sales.

The only tragedy is all the old beloved IPs that dies in the crossfire. But at this point I treatment them like they were bitten by a zombie; time to put them down and give them a funeral.