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Why do western devs make female characters uglier in their games?
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midnightAI
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I haven't posted any pictures so not sure what you are talking about there. And I still don't see why you think she 'looks like shit', if she 'looked like shit' no-one would be able to recognise who she was but people are instantly recognising her. I personally don't think she looks bad at all (except a couple of shots that are less than flattering, which, again, can be fixed as there's plenty of dev time left). She just looks like your average 40-50 yr old woman to me, now you could argue this is fantasy so they could make her how they wanted but they didn't, but that doesn't mean to say they made her ugly.
Whats wrong with that first picture of Faye? she looks very angry, suits the situation"You are just cherry picking bad angles"
Would you rather she cry in that situation instead seeing as how she's just been punched by Begste
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RafterXL
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And God of War isn't the pinnacle of gaming. It's popcorn cinema. It's literally blockbuster movie bullshit. This isn't arthouse, these games are designed to be huge system sellers.
DeltaPolarBear
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I haven't been at a cinema for years. But you don't seem to understand that art only exists under government funding and patronage of rich people trying to do something classy with their money.
Customers pay money to be entertained. If you can't do that you failed. Entertainment need to be fit for purpose, and if you don't care to give your customers what they want you are in the wrong business. People just want to get their ticket's worth, and if you don't offer that then you suck.
EDIT: by the way, I have watched high art. Proper ballad performance. Very impressive, I feel cultured. But if not because one of the performers was my niece, I would NOT have been willing to pay the absurd ticket price or the hours of time it took to attend. My understanding is that despite the ticket price, the only reason they could break even hiring the teachers was because of direct government funding. I am glad the dance performance existed, but I also understand why it couldn't be popular.
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Signalis
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That you and your friends posted, actual bad real life pictures of Deborah? (so who hates women here?) This is a video game, they can make her model look better or worse in ~15 minutes using engine tools, they just don't want to because they prefer her looking like shit.
I just don't get why actresses agree to such treatment, normally women try to look the best on every occasion, my woman puts on makeup even when going to nearby store (5 min on foot). Of course there are exceptions like Kristen Stewart, but this is driven by woke agenda as well:
To this
It sometimes feels to me like there is something demonic going on with these people in the industry.
yogaflame
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Transgenderism, misuse of pronouns, body types instead of male and female, and glorifying unfit and uglified person?
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DeltaPolarBear
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You start with a gender quota. You then hire people who are the right gender but don't play games. You then find out these developers find games to be evil and don;'t want men to have fun. You give these people who hate gamers and don't want them to play, the decision over what games should play like. You then wait 6 years before launching to complete failure. You close the studio and probably kill a few iconic IPs on the way out. The people who hate games win because they killed a game studio, it was the plan all along.
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Iced Arcade
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I'm sure you can find another source for your spank bank
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Gonzito
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ChuckeRearmed
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It is basically like women telling other women to destroy their looks and bodies by claiming that they are more beautiful that way. "You don't need to lose weight, you are beautiful as is, they just don't understand" and such. "Adding wrinkles will make you more attractive and graceful" etc. "Half shaved head makes you look powerful"
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KanKamAndNob
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Are you exaggerating your stupidity for comedy?Talks about "bad faith morons" then pretends a screenshot from a late 2024 remake is from "13 years ago".
The true bad faith morons would be posting screenshots like this of Sam and clowning
The original game still used the model's likeness without ruining her face to "defeat the male gaze" and the original had inferior technique for facial scanning, lighting, and everything else. The excuses that dumb asses like you like to mindlessly regurgitate don't work little one.
Also, you're taking a screenshot of her about to get literally ripped apart by a monster and using that to prove your shitty point.
Let me hold your hand like the child you are and make your point for you.
Use screenshots of her character not about to be killed if you want to refute my point. It's also funny how your stupid ass ignores the other dozen examples from other people that shits on your idiotic defense of this crap.
You're the EXACT type of useful idiot I'm talking about and you don't even realize it.
DeepEnigma
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Yes he is. He's an intelligent person.
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DeepEnigma
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Remember this?
www.giantfreakinrobot.com
Microsoft Doesn't Want Curvy Women In Video Games, Warns Developers Against Certain Body Proportions
Microsoft laid out guidelines about female proportions in their games, but we've seen the document, and we have questions.
www.giantfreakinrobot.com
Signalis
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Her penis.What is Atreus looking at!
Bojji
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Remember this?
Microsoft Doesn't Want Curvy Women In Video Games, Warns Developers Against Certain Body Proportions
Microsoft laid out guidelines about female proportions in their games, but we've seen the document, and we have questions.
But there is no agenda according to some people here, they try to explain it using 1000 words
Yet you can't even mention what was 'ruined' in her scan when you put side by sides of her with similar expressions. Put screenshoots of her against her playing a role in a film and isn't glammed up and tell me what they ruined.
I know it's difficult for you little one, but that's the whole point. It was showing the stupidity of the screenshots people use. You can't even understand a very simple point and you're acting like I'm the idiotic dumbass. (She doesn't get ripped apart in that one btw, she was just getting pulled out a window)
people took screenshots after her face was quite literally dragged through the mud/dirt, flying through the air and about to do an attack but that was totally acceptable to you in comparison.
I even mentioned in the thread before, you can post unflattering images from "the original game" too by which I assume you mean Ragnarok because that's the only one she shows up in.
You're just going to find less grumpy/frowning or straining expressions because she's mostly emotionless or happy in those, because she shows up in Kratos' dream for brief moments in the game. It certainly wasn't a better face scan though, she looks a lot better in the new game.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Asha's balls in my throat?
DeepEnigma
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I'd like to think we can all get along for the most part and not take things so personal. I know I don't when I get dunked on.
We are not always going to agree about everything in our discussions, and that's okay.
DeepEnigma
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There's nothing wrong with it. It's the exact cherry picked nonsense I'm talking about of unflattering images they can find vs a smiling glamour shot. Like posting this shit for Grace or the gameplay shots and pretenting it's the normal face in comparison:
PeteBull
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Thats polish dev studio, flying wild hog, they are making TR remakeNo more hope for finding beauty in western games.
Studio – Flying Wild Hog
Founded in 2009 in Warsaw, Poland, independent game studio Flying Wild Hog™s name evokes the same core feeling as its acclaimed catalog of titles - action-packed, fast-paced, and wholeheartedly unique. From Hard Reset to the Shadow Warrior series, Flying Wild Hog’s titles have established a...
flyingwildhog.com
U can even see big picture of the devteam, there are some women there, but none of them looking like decepticons, and obviously final saying about character design/story and everything else belongs to the top studio heads(guys), not bluehaired activists
DeepEnigma
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You can tell Grace is still cute AF there, just under major distress.There's nothing wrong with it. It's the exact cherry picked nonsense I'm talking about of unflattering images they can find vs a smiling glamour shot. Like posting this shit for Grace or the gameplay shots and pretenting it's the normal face in comparison:
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GymWolf
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Also fat aloy with just a different haircut
Try to solve the crack addict face with a different haircut...
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Fbh
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Also fat aloy with just a different haircut
Yeah Aloy without that silly haircut looks good IMO, way better than Faye.
She is still an incredibly boring character written like all strong independent female Sony characters, but I think the complains about her being ugly have allways been exaggerated and focus too much on a couple of cherry picked screenshots from a scene that's not even in the actual game.
FalsettoVibe
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Let's all be better to each other. Your point is probably better received when you are nicer.
PatientGamer
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why did the title of the thread change?
Hollywood Hitman
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I think the whole problem is that imo developers are all fucking losers. They just are... I get it they make games that we play but I come to realize very few are "cool" anymore, they're just a bunch of entitled losers that are mostly ugly, retarded and lack every ounce of common sense and the women they employ are also ugly as fuck,losers and nobody wants them.. They do that to themselves but I'm sure they just hate real women that are pretty.
The guys that simp for this shit act like pretty women don't exist... There's more pretty girls than ugly I'll tell you that, I mean I don't go anywhere where there isn't some girl that's a looker. So these devs project their world views, I think it's genuinely as simple as that.
I know there's some devs that are fine but as a whole I feel most are a bunch of losers
The guys that simp for this shit act like pretty women don't exist... There's more pretty girls than ugly I'll tell you that, I mean I don't go anywhere where there isn't some girl that's a looker. So these devs project their world views, I think it's genuinely as simple as that.
I know there's some devs that are fine but as a whole I feel most are a bunch of losers
xanaum
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He's staring at where her tits should be and wondering:What is Atreus looking at!
'Is this ugly bitch a man or a woman?'
simpatico
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Because we saw the Gears previews and it became clear it's not limited to Sony
FalsettoVibe
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Probably to be more general (and accurate) and less console war-ish.
It never has been limited to Sony.
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Hollywood Hitman
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Like when people say, "that thar is a real woman"... I'd like to ask have any of these fuck heads ever been to a beach?
Exactly. you should see her when she's frightened.You can tell Grace is still cute AF there, just under major distress.
Papito thinks it's not cherry picking by continuing to cherry pick unflattering images.
Plague Doctor
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Bunch of people fucks something up...
Other people complain how the thing got all fucked up...
"OMG BOTH GROUPS OF PEOPLE ARE INSUFFERABLE! WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO ARGUE!"
Other people complain how the thing got all fucked up...
"OMG BOTH GROUPS OF PEOPLE ARE INSUFFERABLE! WHY DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO ARGUE!"
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GymWolf
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Sarah and claire look a bit weird tbh, something on the eyes and lips, kinda reptilian for lack of better words, but tbh i never liked the new claire model face since remake 2 so i'm biased.
GymWolf
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I didnt followed the discussion, but she looks like a weird porcellain doll even in her best moments, this chick is really a bad example to pick to show videogame hot beauties...Exactly. you should see her when she's frightened.
Papito thinks it's not cherry picking by continuing to cherry pick unflattering images.
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Hollywood Hitman
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More case in point it's from a show but still I think shows it, my favorite show From currently in season 4.. It's not woke but they did fuck with one character her name is Kristy and season 1 she was fine but this first season dropped 2022 and so they were making it pre 2020 and here was Kristy
And then by season 3 here's Kristy looking hotter than ever
She's finally in season 4 a little cuter again but still, come on
And then by season 3 here's Kristy looking hotter than ever
She's finally in season 4 a little cuter again but still, come on
DeepEnigma
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