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[Three]

I would say actress is not exactly a beauty with that weird face:

And DMC5 supports SSS:

That screenshot doesn't though so what's your point?

Most of the shots of Faye are from the cutscenes or not controlled gameplay segments, they can fake the lighting how they want.

PT:

This is example of technical limitation, in game model of her is EXELLENT (and in cutscenes with fake lighting she looks good even with raster):

That's exactly the point. You understand that it's a technical limitation there. RE9 has no PT/RT on base PS5 and that makes the image unflattering.

 

[Guilty_AI]

There are no real cutscenes in GoW since GoW2018. It's a single cut throughout the entire game. You'd know that if you cared about the actual technical reasons behind it.

The camera never cuts to a different scene or goes to a loading screen in GoW. They cannot change anything that they cannot do on the fly and for that reason there are very little differences in gameplay and cutscene for GoW except some hero lighting and the like. They can change pretty much everything in the cinematics of RE9 and make everything look nicer. In game in 60fps mode the RE9 character model os uglier though would you not agree?

Both are rendered real time, so, potato potayto

 

[Gonzito]

There are no real cutscenes in GoW since GoW2018. It's a single cut throughout the entire game. You'd know that if you cared about the actual technical reasons behind it.

The camera never cuts to a different scene or goes to a loading screen in GoW. They cannot change anything that they cannot do on the fly and for that reason there are very little differences in gameplay and cutscene for GoW except some hero lighting and the like. They can change pretty much everything in the cinematics of RE9 and make everything look nicer. In game in 60fps mode the RE9 character model os uglier though would you not agree?

No I dont agree at all. From the moment you stop controlling the character you are watching a cutscene. Thats how its been in gaming for almost 30 years. And just because there are no camera cuts in the latest God of War games, it doesnt mean that the character have to look bad due to the lighting because we have GOW 2018 and Ragnarok proving you wrong, the character models in those game look good, not ground breaking but good enough

I know its hard for you to accept these things because of your unconditional love for Sony, but its time to wake up and accept the reality, they have butchered the characters appearance, she looks nothing like the actress and the backlash is absolutely justified, period

Nothing else to add your honour

 

[Three]

Almost all the shots from GOW are from cutscenes, zero camera control from the player.

There is no reason why it should look worse than DS2 or RE9 with or without RT - they are using the same hardware in all those games. And this is top tier Sony developer and AAA budget, not some Jimmy creating games in mothers basement.

Again read what I wrote. There are no real cutscenes in GoW. It's a "one-shot camera" game. It's known for it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I like Debrah Wilson from back in the Mad TV days. She's funny. Can't be mad at her for taking all these roles. But it's funny how they always nail her character model 100% and ugly up all the pretty girls.

I personally like seeing her in games because she's a great actress and nails every role she does, but it must purely be a coinkydink how her model is 1:1 each and every time in contrast to the rest.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

The look you get when you say girl we aren't going anywhere until you put your face on

 

[Three]

Both are rendered real time, so, potato potayto

There is a difference when you can completely flush ram and load a highly detailed single room and character for a cutscene. So tomato potato.

 

[TintoConCasera]

There are no real cutscenes in GoW

How would you refer to those moments in the game where the controls are taken away from the player and the camera pans around them while they talk and do stuff on an scripted environment in which the devs are in full control of how it looks at all times?

 

[laynelane]

My man is not cherrypicked. Its literally the first scene where you see the character face. The most important part lol

The lengths some people go here to defend this crap lol

I've noticed that very few people are outright denying that she looks bad - there's just varying degrees of rationalization for why that is: lighting, cherry picked shots of the actress or character, it's realistic, she's newly deceased in the game, rendering is hard, etc.

My own take is that I expected nothing more from current day Sony. It's completely unsurprising.

 

[Gonzito]

Again read what I wrote. There are no real cutscenes in GoW. It's a "one-shot camera" game. It's known for it.`?

Wrong, there are cutscenes, they just dont have cuts, but you are watching cutscenes all the time when not controlling the character

GOW 2018 has 3 hours of cutscenes



You are a fraud man

 

[Three]

No I dont agree at all. From the moment you stop controlling the character you are watching a cutscene. Thats how its been in gaming for almost 30 years. And just because there are no camera cuts in the latest God of War games, it doesnt mean that the character have to look bad due to the lighting because we have GOW 2018 and Ragnarok proving you wrong, the character models in those game look good, not ground breaking but good enough

You can think what you like but that doesn't mean they're technically the same thing. A real cutscene you can do much more with. Especially with a loading screen beforehand.

 

[DeepEnigma]

My own take is that I expected nothing more from current day Sony. It's completely unsurprising.

 

[Three]

Wrong, there are cutscenes, they just dont have cuts, but you are watching cutscenes all the time when not controlling the character

GOW 2018 has 3 hours of cutscenes



You are a fraud man

Man you're disingenuous as hell nobody said you don't watch stuff but there are no real 'cut' scenes in GoW:



You can see this in the Laufey screenshots you use too. It goes seemlessly to gameplay because it's the same model.

 

[Guilty_AI]

There is a difference when you can completely flush ram and load a highly detailed single room and character for a cutscene. So tomato potato.

Being a single cut doesn't impede it from doing tricks like that, especially with some smart camera movement and positioning.

Also, RE R uses the same model for gameplay and cutscenes.

 

[Gonzito]

You can think what you like but that doesn't mean they're technically the same thing. A real cutscene you can do much more with. Especially with a loading screen beforehand.

Yes there are loading screens, they are just built different.

• Squeezing through narrow gaps: Whenever Kratos squeezes sideways through a tight crack in the rocks.
• Crawlspaces: Anytime you crouch under or crawl through a low tunnel.
• Elevators and lifts: Riding platforms (like the ones used to travel up and down the mountain) serve to process new assets.
• The Realm Between Realms: The blue, trippy bridge you run on when using fast-travel portals is a masked loading screen where the game loads the new realm

All of this are loading screens

Man do some research because you are embarassing yourself in front of everyone here lol

 

[user friendly]

she looks nothing like the actress and the backlash is absolutely justified, period

 

[Guilty_AI]

Man you're disingenuous as hell nobody said you don't watch stuff but there are no real 'cut' scenes in GoW:

What are you even calling a "real" cutscene here?

 

[Putonahappyface]

Virgins. Incels. It's the majority of this site.

 

[Three]

Being a single cut doesn't impede it from doing tricks like that, especially with some smart camera movement and positioning.

Also, RE R uses the same model for gameplay and cutscenes.

It absolutely does. Read up on how much of a nightmare the single take was for the devs on GoW. In a custcene you have much better control of resources and can completely change settings without a jump looking jarring

What are you even calling a "real" cutscene here?

A camera cut to another scene. What else? There are no real cutscenes.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It absolutely does. Read up on how much of a nightmare the single take was for the devs on GoW. In a custcene you have much better control of resources and can completely change settings without a jump looking jarring

So we get the western ideological uglification rendering pass version of that actress in both.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Because western videogames are known to have ugly and abominble female characters for awhile now so it's no surprise there. Only some rare exceptions like CDProjectRED and Blizzard still make decent looking female characters if you don't count indies.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Read up on how much of a nightmare the single take was for the devs on GoW

I'm curious. Who said that was a nightmare? The devs themselves?

 

[midnightAI]

Most of the shots of Faye are from the cutscenes or not controlled gameplay segments, they can fake the lighting how they want.

As you probably know, the cutscenes are different in God of War compared to many games, this is because it's all done one shot within the game world, no swapping of character models or scenery, no carefully positioned cameras to hide anything, cutscenes are fully in game using all gameplay assets.

(Edit: I see others have said the same)

 

[Three]

So we get the western ideological uglification version of that actress in both.

You get something inbetween that has nothing to do with uglification. Instead of gameplay model looking ugly (but certainly not 'uglified') in RE9 gameplay then great in cutscene.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You get something inbetween that has nothing to do with uglification. Instead of gameplay model looking ugly (but certainly not 'uglified') in RE9 gameplay then great in cutscene.

 

[Three]

I'm curious. Who said that was a nightmare? The devs themselves?

 

[Gonzito]

 

[Guilty_AI]

It absolutely does. Read up on how much of a nightmare the single take was for the devs on GoW. In a custcene you have much better control of resources and can completely change settings without a jump looking jarring

You're comparing it to cutscenes with black loading screens, not the case at all in RE R where cutscenes happen instantly. If anything the latter is much harder to accomplish since the resources must be loaded immediatly and you cant hide stuff with some slow camera panning and movements.

 

[user friendly]

So your example is of an airbrushed image of the actress from probably over a decade ago? Cool. Where did that giant mole go?

Cant acknowledge the comparison i provided or just cant accept it?

 

[laynelane]

...

In short, your dislike for ugly, DEI, and woke characters translates more into a dislike for the Sony PlayStation brand than for the games themselves.

That makes more sense.

This isn't a console warrior issue, dude. You keep trying to make it one and that's the only real angle you're approaching this from. People are giving you the benefit of the doubt and trying to engage with you anyway and they're showing some admirable patience - but if you can't see that it's not only Sony games being talked about with regards to this topic then there's no point trying to discuss this with you.

 

[The_hunter]

Why does Debra Wilson's character model always look like Debra Wilson?

 

[Pedro Motta]

This comparison is so dumb and you know it. You're blowing this out of proportion.

When I build a character, even if it's appearance is based on a know actress, it's MY character, I know what she is, what she lived through, how princess or how warrior I want her to be. This is called artistic freedom. And yes, I agree there were situations where the "ugliness" in the character was forced, but I wonder if in this case this is just out of proportion? She is not THAT different.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Game idea pitch: Smash Bros, but every characer in the roster is a Debra Wilson.

 

[midnightAI]

Ok, now let's step back for a second, if someone asked you which one of those two pictures fits the Norse setting, fits being the wife of 2018+ Kratos (also mother of an 11yr old Atreus) then which one is the most viable/realistic?

 

[TintoConCasera]

Ok, now let's step back for a second, if some asked you which one of those two pictures fits the Norse setting, fits being the wife of 2018+ Kratos then which one is the most viable/realistic?

The Norse setting? Or the Norse MYTHOLOGY setting full of monsters and gods doing crazy shit which is all fantasy?

I'd say the 2nd one, why not? It doesn't have to be realistic.

 

[midnightAI]

This comparison is so dumb and you know it. You're blowing this out of proportion.

When I build a character, even if it's appearance is based on a know actress, it's MY character, I know what she is, what she lived through, how princess or how warrior I want her to be. This is called artistic freedom. And yes, I agree there were situations where the "ugliness" in the character was forced, but I wonder if in this case this is just out of proportion? She is not THAT different.

I don't even think she's ugly personally (maybe it's because I myself am in my 50's)

 

[Gonzito]

This comparison is so dumb and you know it. You're blowing this out of proportion.

When I build a character, even if it's appearance is based on a know actress, it's MY character, I know what she is, what she lived through, how princess or how warrior I want her to be. This is called artistic freedom. And yes, I agree there were situations where the "ugliness" in the character was forced, but I wonder if in this case this is just out of proportion? She is not THAT different.

Is this out of proportion too?

lol

Actually defending this is dumb

 

[Rayjin]

Absolutely insane how technically ignorant some peoples are here, and the need for some political agenda to be shoved into everything is pure insanity, you really need to check your mental if you seriously think thers someone at santa monica specifically and deliberately making fay uglier

for your mental health i will try to give you some sane explanation

- for starter their lighting engine is ASS, it look at least a generation old, wich contribute to make her look uglier than what the model is, most of the games these last years use RT or PT, this is not even out and look oudated, it doesnt help
- the way the cutscene are lit with many fake lights is also mediocre, they are usually used to make scenes look more dramatic and improve character lighting, but here they not only missed it but they have overdone it to the point of her face being over lit and therefore look flat without shadows to define her face
- take any character on any game and point a bright light to it and see how it flatten the face instantly
- their sub surface scattering shaders look old and outdated, this is on top of the terrible lighting
- she's supposedly older in the game, the actress look simply much younger, this make the comparison simply stupid
- she had a kid in the game, go look at any women how they look after pregnancy, hell just ask your mom for photos of her before she had you, you can argue why they would portray this aspect realistically but not others since its a fictional world who care right ? well its their game
- if you would take the model shove it into UE5 it wouldnt look as " ugly ", again the lighting for how you perceive a character is 80% of it
- their character artist are far from top of the top, i never though that they made amazing character models to begin with
- its possible that they outsourced alot of the game
- why would they make her ultra hot to begin with ? since when GOW is a bangable instagram chick simulator ?

am not defending this game, am not planing to play it or anything, i was already tired of the formula with ragnarok wich i didnt even finish and though was mediocre compared to the 2018 GOW, its just baffle me how much peoples cant think of any other reason as to why she look how she does

 

[John Bilbo]

Wrong, there are cutscenes, they just dont have cuts, but you are watching cutscenes all the time when not controlling the character

GOW 2018 has 3 hours of cutscenes



You are a fraud man

Yeah these are very much movie type games. In the end at least the gameplay of the first one wasn't that great. The combat system was pretty damn boring, stale.

 

[midnightAI]

The Norse setting? Or the Norse MYTHOLOGY setting full of monsters and gods doing crazy shit which is all fantasy?

I'd say the 2nd one, why not? It doesn't have to be realistic.

You see, that would look weird to me if she's Kratos's wife/mother of Atreus

Heck, how recent is that photo anyway? (I honestly don't know how recent it is, does she look like that right now?)

 

[DeepEnigma]

The Norse setting? Or the Norse MYTHOLOGY setting full of monsters and gods doing crazy shit which is all fantasy?

I'd say the 2nd one, why not? It doesn't have to be realistic.

They were all portrayed as dimes in the Greek Saga, even the Medusa's had perfect racks.

I wonder what changed the past 10-15 years in the west?

 

[Gonzito]

Absolutely insane how technically ignorant some peoples are here, and the need for some political agenda to be shoved into everything is pure insanity, you really need to check your mental if you seriously think thers someone at santa monica specifically and deliberately making fay uglier

for your mental health i will try to give you some sane explanation

- for starter their lighting engine is ASS, it look at least a generation old, wich contribute to make her look uglier than what the model is, most of the games these last years use RT or PT, this is not even out and look oudated, it doesnt help
- the way the cutscene are lit with many fake lights is also mediocre, they are usually used to make scenes look more dramatic and improve character lighting, but here they not only missed it but they have overdone it to the point of her face being over lit and therefore look flat without shadows to define her face
- take any character on any game and point a bright light to it and see how it flatten the face instantly
- their sub surface scattering shaders look old and outdated, this is on top of the terrible lighting
- she's supposedly older in the game, the actress look simply much younger, this make the comparison simply stupid
- she had a kid in the game, go look at any women how they look after pregnancy, hell just ask your mom for photos of her before she had you, you can argue why they would portray this aspect realistically but not others since its a fictional world who care right ? well its their game
- if you would take the model shove it into UE5 it wouldnt look as " ugly ", again the lighting for how you perceive a character is 80% of it
- their character artist are far from top of the top, i never though that they made amazing character models to begin with
- its possible that they outsourced alot of the game
- why would they make her ultra hot to begin with ? since when GOW is a bangable instagram chick simulator ?

am not defending this game, am not planing to play it or anything, i was already tired of the formula with ragnarok wich i didnt even finish and though was mediocre compared to the 2018 GOW, its just baffle me how much peoples cant think of any other reason as to why she look how she does

Yeah there is no agenda at all, its in our heads. Cool story bro

 

[xrnzaaas]

True Blood started 18 years ago, can't go around that. I still think that judging by how Deborah looked in recent public appearances or stuff like Daredevil she's aged quite well. The model from the upcoming GoW game is definitely intentional so you won't have any thoughts about her being attractive or even pleasant looking. And it wouldn't take much to change it, just some basic makeup and cleaner face texture. You know, stuff that most 40yo women do anyway.

 

[TintoConCasera]

You see, that would look weird to me if she's Kratos's wife/mother of Atreus

Heck, how recent is that photo anyway? (I honestly don't know how recent it is, does she look like that right now?)

It's weird to you for a man to be with a younger woman? It's not like she's a child in that picture lol.

And no I don't think she looks like that nowadays, although for her age she still looks really fine imo.

 

[Hollywood Hitman]

Absolutely insane how technically ignorant some peoples are here, and the need for some political agenda to be shoved into everything is pure insanity, you really need to check your mental if you seriously think thers someone at santa monica specifically and deliberately making fay uglier

for your mental health i will try to give you some sane explanation

- for starter their lighting engine is ASS, it look at least a generation old, wich contribute to make her look uglier than what the model is, most of the games these last years use RT or PT, this is not even out and look oudated, it doesnt help
- the way the cutscene are lit with many fake lights is also mediocre, they are usually used to make scenes look more dramatic and improve character lighting, but here they not only missed it but they have overdone it to the point of her face being over lit and therefore look flat without shadows to define her face
- take any character on any game and point a bright light to it and see how it flatten the face instantly
- their sub surface scattering shaders look old and outdated, this is on top of the terrible lighting
- she's supposedly older in the game, the actress look simply much younger, this make the comparison simply stupid
- she had a kid in the game, go look at any women how they look after pregnancy, hell just ask your mom for photos of her before she had you, you can argue why they would portray this aspect realistically but not others since its a fictional world who care right ? well its their game
- if you would take the model shove it into UE5 it wouldnt look as " ugly ", again the lighting for how you perceive a character is 80% of it
- their character artist are far from top of the top, i never though that they made amazing character models to begin with
- its possible that they outsourced alot of the game
- why would they make her ultra hot to begin with ? since when GOW is a bangable instagram chick simulator ?

am not defending this game, am not planing to play it or anything, i was already tired of the formula with ragnarok wich i didnt even finish and though was mediocre compared to the 2018 GOW, its just baffle me how much peoples cant think of any other reason as to why she look how she does

Lol and there it is, "since when is God of war a bangable Instagram chick simulator?"...

You must forget when Kratos was banging girls and they weren't ugly.

 

[Bojji]

That screenshot doesn't though so what's your point?

That's exactly the point. You understand that it's a technical limitation there. RE9 has no PT/RT on base PS5 and that makes the image unflattering.

RE9 on PS5 Pro (same hardware that was running this game):

"ugly"?

Again read what I wrote. There are no real cutscenes in GoW. It's a "one-shot camera" game. It's known for it.

You can't control the camera = cutscene. Developes are adding lights and stuff when they know you will be looking into the fixed postion.

They have the general shape but she still looks far worse in the game.

 

[user friendly]

Is this out of proportion too?

lol

Actually defending this is dumb

You still wont acknowledge the comparisons that show similarities, but continue to post a comparisons of pictures from when she was in her early/mid 20's.

 

[Three]

You're comparing it to cutscenes with black loading screens, not the case at all in RE R where cutscenes happen instantly. If anything the latter is much harder to accomplish since the resources must be loaded immediatly and you cant hide stuff with some slow camera panning and movements.

That's a lie. RE9 does have black loading screens you can see one where it switches from the office to the streets right at the beginning of the game for example. It's about 4-5 seconds long. On top of that you have the door loading screens.
If you're talking about the same scene cuts where it switches to some cinematic within that scene again those have cuts meaning you can make things look nicer without the transition in LOD/lighting looking jarring. They even move a single light about to make characters look good between cuts. That wouldn't really work with a single shot.

 

[Gonzito]

You still wont acknowledge the comparisons that show similarities, but continue to post a comparisons of pictures from when she was in her early/mid 20's.

I cant acknowledge something that is not true, period. In the pictures that you posted, the actress still looks much better, there is no way around my man

 

[user friendly]

RE9 on PS5 Pro (same hardware that was running this game):

"ugly"?




You can't control the camera = cutscene. Developes are adding lights and stuff when they know you will be looking into the fixed postion.



They have the general shape but she still looks far worse in the game.

It was said the model looks nothing like the actress, that was my respone to that... Is it a "pretty" character model? No, not really but the statement that it looks nothing like the actress is a bit delusion dont you think?